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Anyone have the scores for the Carpet City Classic games for Wed. Dec. 20th? I saw the McCallie scored posted. What about Temple? Others?

To reiterate, Coach Skogen has responded, and given his extremely busy schedule he may or may not further respond or as quickly as you may prefer. Also, to add some perspective, if there weren't message boards or some means of mass interaction such as this, then you would find out whether or not a player was with one team or another in a much more round about way. You now have access to ask Coach Skogen a question directly, though he specifically mentions that you can contact him about 1) his view of Christian education, and 2) his commitment to Temple. IF it turns out that Joey Skogen transfers to McCallie or somewhere else, don't you think that A LOT of thought will have gone into that decision? Don't you think that after so many great years at Temple and enjoying the Temple community that if Joey were to leave that it would not be an easy decision to come by? For someone to say, I think it shows a lack of commitment to a school, a community and Christian education which they have valued at Temple. is simply ignorant, and I can certainly understand why Coach Skogen chose to speak up. As he pointed out, to make such a blanket statement without having all of the facts generally leads to mistaken conclusions. - OH1

1) The fact that Eldridge is talking like this is embarassing, plain and simple. 2) The way that he has foisted himself upon the program is ridiculous as well. 3) Why he is being quoted to begin with is beyond me. He's the new guy on the block and would be wise to simply keep his mouth shut for a while. 4) While he's been hired to do a job, if he is wise he will get to know the Temple culture before he comes in thinking he has all the answers. 5) These comments really have nothing to do with the Temple/FC game, so please excuse this brief commentary. --- Good game FC. Hope you guys win it all. Great season Temple. It was a great ride and experience.

Well, yeah, it is football. Guess they'll have to strap on the pads, and then we'll know. Of course, maybe Temple should just forfeit since SP already has this one in the bag - according to some.

New kicker and he simply missed the ball - also it was still a bit wet from the rain. Anyway, it wasn't intentional, even though it looked like a nearly perfect onside kick. Temple vs SP could simply turn into a shootout, which would be fun for the fans to watch. Whoever ends up on offense last could end up winning this one.

For all that has been said so far about stats, etc., the bottomline is that S. Skogen is a football player. Yes, he's a great athlete too, but he understands the game. I thought the comparison to Jeff Samardzija from Notre Dame was more reasonable than some of the others that have been made. Samardzija isn't the fastest guy on the team, but he has good game speed, good hands, and presents the QB with a large target. He's a football player. S. Skogen has similar qualities. Some of you on this list might be too young to remember the great NFL receiver Steve Largent, but he didn't have incredible speed and he was one of the best of all time. One last thought, it may very well be that S. Skogen wants to go to a school to play football, to see the field, and to enjoy the whole college football experience. A smaller school might be just the place for such an experience.

Great quote OTB63. Maybe Temple was overlooking Silverdale a bit and expecting it to be an easy "W", but I don't think that will happen against Whitwell - regardless of how porous Whitwell's defense might be (according to other posts). This game has HUGE implications for the region standings. Whitwell knows it. So does Temple.

Just for the record: I think Temple and Unaka have developed a great competitive relationship over the years, which started with basketball, and has now moved to football. The sportsmanship and hospitality that I've seen between these two teams/schools is refreshing, and reminds me of some of the things that makes high school sports special in ways that you can't find in college or the pros. Looking forward to watching a good game under the Friday night lights. Prediction: Temple by 17+.

#1- is he a skogen as well? what year is he? Yes, #1 is the youngest of the Skogen brothers. He is a sophomore.

TEMPLE BY 10+!!

Guys, guys, guys, If you are going to talk about sports at least use the correct terminology and spell it correctly! Multiple times throughout this thread lose has been incorrectly spelled. There's only one "o" in the word. Loose, the spelling that keeps appearing, means (in its verbal form) 'to free from restraint.' That's not what we are talking about here. We are talking about losing, as in not winning, a football game. Are there student-athletes and adults with an education posting here or not?

Seth Skogen, WR/TE at Temple. Size and Speed.

As of noon Eastern, nothing's appeared on Coach T News or TSSAA. Somebody's gotta know, because I've had confirmation of one of the nominees. "I need. I need. I want. I want." - Bob

I heard that the nominations for Mr. Basketball have come out. Has anything official been posted yet? Please send me a link or a list.

#1 for Temple is the youngest Skogen, and he is only a freshman who plays like an upperclassmen. He has an incredible passion for the game of football and always has. It is that unexplainable factor that you can't teach, but some players just have. Of course, having three older brothers doesn't hurt either. . . competing with and getting pounded on by them all those years makes a kid pretty tough.

Hats off to Sequatchie. You never panicked and with about 5 minutes to go in the second quarter, you could sense the tide turning in the game. Sequatchie got the momentum and never lost it. The kickoff return for a TD to start the second half definitely kept the "big mo" rolling in Sequatchie's favor. Temple had a good drive and looked to bring it within one score again, but then Sequatchie intercepted. After that. . . well, everyone knows the final score. Sequatchie appeared well-coached, and your depth was definitely a factor. "26" is a very good player, and I was impressed with how he didn't stop running until somebody really brought him down. Also, Sequatchie has one of the nicest fields I've ever seen for a high school. Whoever maintains it, excellent work. Kudos to Temple for going to Sequatchie for the opening game of the year. You showed a lot of heart and toughness. Build on this, learn from it, and get ready for Lookout Valley. And forget about whether or not you have D-1 schools interested in some of your players, etc. Focus on playing Temple football, and these other things will take care of themselves. And listen to your coaches. They know their stuff. To Temple's "Triple Threat" - Smith, Smithson and Skogen - keep your heads up, and lead your team.

I've seen Temple play a few times over the past couple of years and they remind me of Boise St. Not the biggest team out there, nor the best defensive team around, but a HECK of a lot of fun to watch - able to put points on the board in a hurry! Whenever you have offensive quick-strike ability like Temple has, you can compete with some of the bigger teams, and pull-off an upset every now and then. Sequatchie has a solid win over Whitwell already under their belts, and that gives them an edge since this is Temple's first game. If Temple isn't too nervous, and can get out there and just play football, they definitely stand a chance. Also, if Temple can get some early stops on D and put points on the board, Sequatchie may be hard-pressed to catch up. And takinit2thehoop: If you think this game will be over by the end of the 1st Quarter. . . you are just clueless in Seattle. And just for the record, Temple does have D1 quality players. Better stick with b-ball, dude.

So does Temple even have a field to play on or what? Anyone know? I remember hearing they had something in the works, but haven't heard anything lately. And please don't tell me they are going to attempt to play on the field (if you can call it that) across the street from their gym. If it rains, almost an entire endzone is underwater. If Temple was serious about football, one would think they do something to have legitimate home field to play on.

Kto2122 wrote: I thought that Caleb Skogen seemed pretty lazy. bigbody1220 wrote: I really dont think he was lazy it was just his hamstring wasnt 100 %. bigbody and Kto2122, Caleb wasn't being lazy. Due to his hamstring injury, he had a fairly strict rehab program to maintain, and he wasn't able to do any substantial cardio training. Basically, his lungs were out of shape. At points in the game, he was simply trying to pace himself and get his wind back.

Temple, recruit? That's a riot. I almost fell out of my chair when I read it. They have good athletes and good system for those athletes to work in. That makes for a winning combination. thumb

Caleb had to lay it in on the break away. The dunk was too risky. Remember, he tweaked his hamstring on a dunk to begin with. To get the extension needed for a dunk would be too much. As to whether or not Temple played well. . . . No, it wasn't the prettiest game ever, but remember its March. The goal is to survive, win and move on to the next game. Temple did just that.

bball1984, With all due respect, I am not certain that this is being blown out of proportion, because the actions displayed at the Temple/Grace game are the fruit of a deeper problem. Let's try looking at this matter from a different track that I haven't read from anyone else yet. C. Skogen's brothers are with him on the team, his dad is an assistant coach, and his mom and sisters attend every single game. What do you think it would be like to go to a game (it is only a game, right?), and have your son/brother kicked and punched when he ended up in the fans somehow? Put yourself in their place. C. Skogen is a person, a human being who shouldn't be treated that way to begin with. Even more, as a Christian among those who are at least Christian in name there is no REASONABLE explanation for him being treated this way, and such actions are INEXCUSABLE. If a player ends up in the stands, the fans should do everything to make sure he's OK and help him get back on the court, regardless of which team he plays for. The game is played on the court, not in the stands. Fans do their part by cheering, screaming, etc., not by physically becoming involved. The example to follow is NOT the debacle in Detroit between the Pacers and the Pistons, and yet how long do you think it will be before ESPN is reporting a similar incident happening on the college or even the high school level? Now, please do not misunderstand me. I am not equating the Grace incident with the fiaso in Detroit. The two scenarios are at oppostite ends of the spectrum. My point is simply to ask the question of whether or not such actions as happened at the Grace game are a step down the wrong path. As I mentioned at the outset, actions are simply the fruit of a deeper problem. We (schools, the church, all of society) need to do some serious evaluating of what that problem might very well be.

Just to set the record straight regarding the play when C. Skogen went down against CCS. 1) He was legitimately hurt on the play, but was eventually able to walk it off. It took several minutes before he could get up, and the trainer was genuinely concerned and took him to the locker room. 2) C. Skogen was called for an offensive foul on the play. He did not flop to gain an advantage for his team or anything of the sort. He was attacking the basket and collided with one of the twin towers for CCS.

> mtnman: "and to think most of the people on this thread are from Christian schools." > mocballa3: "That really doesn't mean a thing -- if you know what I mean. It's sad -- but true. " Agreed. I've attended my fair share of b-ball games over the years - between CCS, Grace, Temple etc., and it amazes me that if the players and fans attending those games are Christians, then words spoken or actions done leave a lot to be desired. (Grace's behavior after winning last year's district championship is a case in point). Where is true sportsmanship in sports today? Sadly, it is greatly lacking. If it isn't displayed at the Christian schools, then where will it be displayed? I am not saying that fans can't cheer like crazy for their teams; that players shouldn't play their hearts out and leave it all on the floor; that competition shouldn't be intense. Not at all, but "Christian" players need to learn where to draw the line between being fierce competitors and jerks. Sometimes that is a fine line, but when things get focused on personal aspects of a single player (such as C. Skogen has received on previous posts), then the line has been crossed. Keep things focused on the teams, boys. Please, try to show some maturity and class on the court, and in these posts. Anonymity makes some of you bolder than you might be otherwise. One final thought - it is still just a game.

Hawk, Where did these new freshmen come from? Your Jr. high team? NOPE. I saw the jr high team play three times last year and these kids were not on that team, because that team was not any good. I did not say every year, just cycles through and then a new batch of kids who come from....who knows where?