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  1. usfjim, here goes: flagrant-any action, verbal or physical, that the official deems is bad enough for a participant/coach to be immediately ejected. Ex. coach jumps out of chair is in the middle of the mat screaming "you stupid ###### you blew another call". I guess that's a silly example, but I've never seen a coach ejected for flagrant. Biting by a wrestler is an automatic flagrant. unsportsman-any action, verbal or physical, that the official deems is delaying the orderly progression of the match. Exs by the coach can be riding the official from the coach's chair to the point where the official can't concentrate on the match because of the nonsense coming out of the corner. A more specific ex is a coach yelling "he's stalling ref" very loud, over and over. The coach may even be right. But when the coach starts calling the match it no longer seems that teams are given an equal shot. Coaches standing in their corner with their fist raised indicating the other wrestler is stalling has been considered inciteful (unsporting), and of course any direct verbal attacks get irritable pretty quickly. But, the official should know the difference between a coach yelling "that's a terrible call"-describing the situation, and "you're a terrible ref"-direct attack. All of the above are penalized without warning, with the exception of "that's a terrible call". misconduct-only happens at the table after the coach requests a meeting with the official. Misconduct is questioning judgement, "how can you call that near fall, both shoulders were three inches off the mat". Misconduct is also the coach requesting the conference because he believes the official has misapplied a federation rule. The example comment is misconduct on both accounts. First, the official's judgement is that the defensive wrestler was held in near fall criteria (questioning judgement), and second the rules state near fall criteria is met if both shoulders are held within FOUR inches for two seconds so the rule was not misapplied as the coach claimed. The first incident gets the head coach a warning, the second by any member of the coaching staff gets the head coach a penalty, and the third by any member of the coaching staff gets the head coach removed. This may be more than you asked for, but...
  2. There are at least a couple of ways to look at this. First, Ryan SHOULD have forfeited the last match of their Baylor contest. Leading by 7, the only way you can lose is to send a wrestler on the mat, get pinned and have someone lose their cool and lose an additional team point (unsportsman conduct). This ties the match and Ryan loses on the first criteria of the tiebreaker (team points lost). Bradley, on the other hand, missed a great opportunity to reward some of their non-starting wrestlers and give some underclassmen state tournament experience, not to mention giving Maryville a full match. I guess I have just second guessed them, but those are the two champs so it is a little hard to question them.
  3. It may not be a Baker-Pease region finals.
  4. The Dream Team is a selection of Middle TN wrestlers voted by the Middle Tn Coaches to be the best in their weight class regardless of school size or division. There are over 60 schools competing in the Middle Tn area. The coaches meeting may include around 20 coaches. There are wrestlers selected whose coaches are not present. The teams don't "do" anything; they are recognized for their accomplishments to date. There have been many previous award recipients who have been outperformed at the State tournament by area wrestlers. The voting is taken very seriously with weight being given to wrestlers who sought the best competition. Hope this helps.
  5. BOTW, I read your post on the other thread and had to immediately like you (great minds and all...). And I agree with everyone that NO TEAM in Clarksville will be throwing any matches. Also doubt this was a blind draw with all 1 and 2 teams separated, and with probable overall number 1 and 2 teams separated. But, the Duals shouldn't be a complete blind draw. When you get down to the last eight, somebody is going to have a tough draw.
  6. I think MBA's draw looks better if they tank to Notre Dame...and that's not really fair because I don't know anything about ND, but MBA appears to have a better draw if they lose to ND, beat MUS, then they probably get CB, which should be better than getting the FR/Baylor loser (who they would get if they beat ND and lost to McC)... just some thoughts
  7. Your name Sommers? I can tell you this, whoever the ref was, he was hand picked by the participating members of the region duals. It is the only match the coaches actually select their officials. And, I'll bet there were two on the mat.
  8. Congrats to William Blount. Didn't hear much about the "state" tournament in middle tennessee. I know Cleveland has a quality program because they came to our area. Grassland was the only team to beat them at the MBA middle school duals. I'd like to see state wide middle school competition but with Chatt not really starting until after the high school season is over (?), a very tough middle tn conference finishing in early Dec, and another in early Jan it looks tough to schedule.
  9. Here's what I remember (or maybe made up): 103 Shelton (Ken) 112 Dunning (Ryan) 119 Simpson (MBA) 125 Ari (Ove) 130 Holliman (Bren) 135 140 145 Davis (Fran) 152 160 171 189 Pease (Clk) 215 Wash (BA) 275 (BA) I think Starks from Ryan was selected but not sure about the weight. Maybe someone else can help finish.
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