Last time I looked, there are no substate MVP's. Cyclones win because of a team effort, not just one player. Middle school players and records mean nothing if the players don't develop after middle school. Players most of the time make the program. Its good when you have a coach who knows what he is doing. But the good teams have players whose parents, AAU coaches, and other people who know basketball help develop the players, not just the coach. Coach17 is a good coach, but its easy to coach good players.