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You two need to get a room...sheesh, sound like two geeks with walkie talkies in the 5'th grade.

2 hours ago, TryNotToSuck said:

Maybe I should've done a better job of explaining as to why the baseball format is the best. Basketball is more of a "put 8 minutes on the clock, roll the ball out, and play."

The reason why I think baseball is more interesting is due to pitching strategy. If you go based on the district your team is in, one of the teams between Riverside, Adamsville, and Scotts Hill will make to the spring fling. You can even guarantee that two of those teams will make it based on the current format for this district/region in postseason play. I don't remember the seeding of y'alls district tournament last year, but the 1 seed would've played the winner of Bolivar/Madison (play in game) while the 2/3 seed would play each other. Therefore, the 2/3 game would likely used a #1 pitcher, where as the #1 seed would get the benefit of playing a team that already played a game, which assuming they would used their #1 pitcher already because of a single elimination game (Bolivar/Madison). Also, the home team gets the benefit of the last at bat.

The previous format for region play was the Monday (elimination game), Wednesday, and Friday (sub state game) format. What we witnessed was teams would used their #1 pitcher for that Monday game, may go number #3 pitcher for the Wednesday game (not an elimination game), but will used their #1/#2 pitchers for the sub state game on that Friday.

In the current format, the emphasis is more on a "pitching staff" and teams would burn their #1 in an opening regional tournament game, which is now not an elimination game. The strategy of how pitching, to me, is better. I hope that make sense!

I get that the baseball format is improved from what it was previously, but not that there could be a comparison between the two. The fundamental difference is that in baseball the defense controls the game and the pitcher controls the ball 100% of the time, and in every other sport the offense has control, and several players have the option of controlling the game. Just for the record, I never liked that one dominant player in baseball had that much influence in the outcome of a game, which could be the polar opposite without that one player.

25 minutes ago, alessic7 said:

IDK if those in this thread followed last year. My alma mater (Indy)  won the district tournament last season and immediately went to play Hillsboro for a regional champ to determine seeding for state tourney. 4 teams from each district did not advance.

And honestly, could care less about how it's been done in the past. Reward the totality of the regular season or reward teams for how they play in a 4 day tournament??

Yes, four teams from each district did advance... they were seeded by their finish in district tourney play for regional matchups. Regular season determines matchups for district tournament, which in turn seeds the regional, and regionals decides which two play for a spot in the championship blind draw tournament. Not only that, but who plays the sub-state or sectional game at home and who has to travel. Every game has the potential to change a teams placement, matchup, and game site...don't really know how it could be done any better.

On 2/25/2024 at 8:23 PM, TryNotToSuck said:

The baseball postseason style is the best because the district tournament means something. Also, the regular season during the baseball season is highly meaningful due to seeding to get in the tournament. But the region is also highly crucial due to pitching strategy.

Problem with basketball is the district tournament is basically useless, which means the regular season is useless in a way.

Honestly, I don't think the TSSAA cares about the district tournament. I don't think it's mandatory in a way. I believe they just want the "4 teams and their seedings" and play ball. Football is the only sport where they need the regular season for postseason play.

I have to confess that I'm as lost as last year's Easter egg with your comparison between baseball and basketball... you say that baseball does it best and everything before regionals in basketball is useless when it's exactly the same format. Regular season record seeds teams for district tournament play, and tournament results seed the teams from both districts for regional matchups.

On 2/23/2024 at 7:28 PM, truefalconfan said:

Boyettes Dining Room and Dairy Queen In Tiptonville/Reelfoot Lake and  home of the lake Co falcons. The best pregame food hands down 

Absolutely right! Boyette's is a country restaurant that serves "family style" meals...steaks and burgers are good, but if you want some vittles that you'll remember until next season go in and see for yourself. With a menu that includes frog legs (my favorite), quail, country ham, and of course catfish as the protein, and family style bowls of beans, corn, and other veggies, you can't go wrong. We make the 2 1/2 hour drive a few times a year just to eat there, drive around the lake, and carry home a container of their vinegar slaw... only place on earth that makes it like my grandmother used to.

17 hours ago, SweetScience said:

Have all the great Memphis area players gone the private route?

Yes and no. I've been lucky enough to see some bona fide talent in the western division of the state over the past several years, but the number of kids who are legit DI and potential NBA players has tapered to almost nil now, the very few coming along usually go the prep school route and move out of state.

On 2/20/2024 at 7:14 PM, truefalconfan said:

Nope...I'm sure it'll be somebody locally. Lake County administration isn't to keen on hiring outsiders. Unless it's to give them one of the 80,000 plus jobs at the local board of education. Going locally is an easier decision. It's sad when you have applicants with "far superior backgrounds, accomplishments  and experience." This is verbatim from an individual high up in the administration. So, we shall see. I think it was a total of 19 applicants. 

Can't have your cake and eat it too. If you want a long-term coach who won't leave after having success it has to be a local. Success breeds opportunity... if you win you'll get offers, and the more you win the better the offers will be. Give someone a shot not from there, and you can't blame them when they have the opportunity to get paid, to have a better situation, or to go to where they'd rather be. Very few coaches are compensated for all the time spent away from their wives, children, and extended families... not to mention the expenses that they put back into the program and kids, so it's far from a financial decision to be a coach from the outset. Hire a local and you still have to respect any opportunity they have to better provide for their own, or to be in a better position to succeed in their chosen line of work, but you also have the draw of school pride and loyalty that outsiders rarely attach to the place that they happen to work at.

5 hours ago, TCVeritas said:

From what I understand, the new principal at Scotts Hill wanted to go in a new direction. He has problems with Coach Woodmore the day he arrived. Such a shame too. Woodmore did all he could do with the talent available at Scotts Hill. I hope he lands on his feet somewhere. Someone better scoop him up. Maybe McNairy will consider him. He lives in the area I believe 

Good coach and even better person...you couldn't do better than Woodmore for an ever-present example of how to be a man of character. One of the finest human beings that I know.

2 hours ago, TCVeritas said:

It’s a shame what yall have done 

You are exactly right. No argument, no excuses, no explanation.

 Great friend of mine, and will always be.

On 2/20/2024 at 1:57 PM, west10EZ said:

Camden , Bruceton, Mcnairy County , and Lake County, Lexington..any word on the coaching searches for these programs? I’ve got a pretty good idea of Brucetons but then again maybe I don’t 

One is close to making the hire public, another will be posted soon.

4 hours ago, Dawgz4life said:

Well, I don’t know what you want to high school, but it may have started in the Knoxville area before it spread to other counties.

I'm just a little south of Waker, and as far back as I can recall when you stood from the bench, you (at the time) met the coach by the scorers table with a quick handshake. Just for context, the "fist bump" was still years in the future at the time. Don't recall officials being involved back then...there were only two, and I believe that they were out around center court.

On 2/13/2024 at 6:21 AM, Random1234 said:

The problem with concessions, like everything else nowadays, is the cost. $3 for a bottle of pop is crazy! 

If you call it pop, you should have to pay $5 for it...lol!

5 hours ago, maddams said:

I love the idea of 4 classes for all sports with the same regions/districts across all sports.  It would really allow for rivalries to develop.  Don't think it will ever happen.  Can't see football dropping to four.

Wayyyy too simple! Easy to understand... better to develop/continue rivalry games... easier to determine/maintain regional matchups while minimizing excessive travel times/distances. No legitimate reason not to go to this format, so basically it has zero chance of happening.

  FWIW... I think it's the best option hands down, but I ain't in charge.

3 hours ago, CHARGERFAN said:

Regarding Blue Oval (the Ford plant), it is too soon to tell how Covington High will be affected. Stanton has a new RV park for construction workers. That’s Haywood county, so any kids there will go to Haywood. Truck production is scheduled to begin in 2025, so that’s when construction ends and permanent employees move in. 
 

I’m sure Tipton County will get some new folks, but Mason is the closest town to the plant in Tipton and it’s zoned for Brighton High. 
 

We will see how it shakes out in a couple of years.

'Gonna be bigger than that CHARGERFAN. Projected growth charts have even the outlying counties (Lake, Obion, Carroll, and even Weakly) with minimal growth due to the auto plant, and the core counties between 20% and 30% growth, with Haywood being affected most but not far ahead of Fayette, Tipton, and the rest. That's a huge overall population increase made up almost entirely of young working age people who are directly responsible for school enrollment. There's not much doubt that schools will have to be addressed, either by greatly increasing enrollment on current campuses, new facilities, or both. There's a good chance that by 2035 (end date of population study) classes, regions, and districts will all bear little resemblance to the way they are now.

14 hours ago, BallIsLife1 said:

I can assure you that it is not the coach's fault. This has been the same experience with every coach they have had for the past 10-12 years. the culture for girl's sports is down there and the talent pool in that area is down. The talent they do have around there choose to go private or to South Side. JCM has a hand full of talented kids now so they will possibly have a decent program going forward. I believe they are a top team in their district this season.

Been watching Coach Northcutt's teams for the better part of two decades...I have no idea why they're as bad as they are, but I can guarantee you that I know it's not Northcutt's coaching. His teams always played hard, disciplined, and smart, and when he had talent he was hard to beat.

3 hours ago, Bobcats83 said:

You should thank your lucky stars he took that job. Nobody wanted it and to get a coach who cares for kids like he does is awesome.  Can’t always go by wins and losses.  

I'll agree with that, and add that if he can't win there whomever follows him probably can't either.

17 minutes ago, REBELRON said:

Sylvester Gray was on those mid 80s teams. Former UT player Lang Wiseman was on the 89 team. The late 70's team had a guy that played at Ole Miss. Can't remember his name.

I remember the teams, but Gray's the only name I can recall... they could ball!

8 minutes ago, REBELRON said:

I am showing my age in this thread. Those Bolton teams in the late 70 and the 80s were really good. I remember them beating a good Alcoa team in 1979 by 40.  Some of those Alcoa guys told me they never seen anything like Bolton.

Sylvester Gray?

11 hours ago, FootballismyVice said:

Do you have any school that has kept a coach that maybe they shouldn't or any coach hung around maybe too long.

Can't wait to see this

12 hours ago, Tonto10 said:

The fact the County Commission has almost veto rights on how the school board uses their money is beyond me!!! Monies can literally held up due to politics and not what's best for the kids!!! 

Ha! That's not at all uncommon... lots of Commissioners feel like the school system falls under their complete control, board, director, and all employees, and that their budget be subject to line item veto from them. Couldn't be more mistaken. Schools are funded by Federal, State, and County, and the Board Members are elected officials just as the Commissioners. Playing nice is always best, but sometimes lines have to be drawn in the sand to avoid confusion.

11 hours ago, ReitzFan said:

That I don't know. Coach T has posted them in past

Username Jim315 (or something similar) used to provide a link... hopefully someone will continue.

went back a year and found jim.314... hasn't posted the link anyplace yet this season. 

On 1/2/2024 at 10:23 AM, UCPrepShowcase said:

Can this thread PLEASE DIE?

They've been out of high school for YEARS now

I'm beginning to wonder if this is a "healthy" fascination or something a little more obsessive than that.

1 hour ago, Tigersandcats said:

Same, but honestly don't know why I am. Hope it works work.

That's what I mean as well. Perfect opportunity to "go big" and try to get a splash hire, but as we all know, going back to my youth HC has made two hires in house for football...baseball the same...and I don't know (haven't followed) basketball as much, but suspect that's pretty well been kept in the "family" too. 

  Kind of get the feeling that maybe only some titles have been reassigned, and the pecking order remains the same.

On 2/7/2024 at 8:54 AM, GWAVE1 said:

According to the Director of Schools, because of a ruling by the state comptroller in Dec, you cannot use a co-op and thus the steel to build them will not be available this season.  They intend to have all games played at home as scheduled but with temporary bleachers again.   The stadiums that were affected have already been demolished.  

Reading between the lines, it looks like your Administration assumed that things were as they were pre-covid and didn't bother checking supply chain issues. Henderson Co. was ready to move forward with the Lexington/Scotts Hill projects a year earlier, but getting material for bleacher construction was not possible for 13 months. Luckily we were aware of this before demolition of the old ones left us sitting on the ground.

40 minutes ago, Volsfan52 said:

Ok thank you

Not saying that any of this isn't true (from those sources I'd say it is), but you also need to understand that each district has a coaches meeting before the season to decide (among other things) how all this happens. Some districts/regions have a bid process to host, some draw for rotation to host, and some vote neutral site. Lots of regions rotate even/odd years to district hosts... you get the picture. I'll go on record that I like letting the teams involved decide.