blazeburnin

True, but it's also natural for 16 year old boys to want to try to impress or "show out" for the audience. They don't want to feel embarrassed if they don't do a certain #. I'd love to hear how some of the kids that are looking to be counted on did. Those are the ones that I would like to know.

Not trying to be condescending ..just frustrated that people keep trying to rewrite an alternate reality. I'm done typing. I'm convinced people will only choose to believe what is convenient to suit their agenda. I too would have loved to watch overtime or double or triple ot. It didn't happen, so people need to move on. I know what I witnessed, and I'll leave it at that. I'll leave you guys to turn this into a pity party. You had a good team that made it to the final 16 in the state and that shouldnt be taken for granted . We will see you in the fall at your place for some of that oblong ball action. I'm out.

First, I'm so tired of explaining it too. Let's try it one more time. There are 3 officials in every bball game. Let's count. One would be the official the curse was directed at...the second would be the one shown on the video walking away from the camera. The THIRD official is the one that called the t. He is the African-American ref that you can see at the 46 second mark walking behind the play toward the Bradley bench. THERE IS NOT A FOURTH REF THAT CAME RUSHING FROM THE OPPOSITE END. Stop trying to rewrite history to suit your agenda! Well you can feel better because he DEFINATELY said it. Between myself and the 8or so I've talked to that saw it and have said the same thing. I understand your wanting to stand by your guy and believe him. I get it, anybody would do the same thing, but it definately happened. The only defensive and angry comments were directed at posts saying it was a given BC was going to win in ot and the staunch denial that nothing was said when that is just not the case. I was just trying to prevent an entire rewriting of history. That's the only reason for my "rhetoric".

Jeff's, that is exactly what they did in the first half. Players and coaches from both teams were warned about players language in the first half.

Yeah MKD, he was the other guy in the white shirt that went rippnig across the court on a mission. Honestly, what did you two hope to accomplish other than creating a scene and making both of you look like a couple of hot-heads....because mission accomplished on that end.

The same kind of drugs you must be on to think I said the T happened at 46. I was correcting the poster who thought the ref that called it was the one walking up behind. What I said was the ref that called it was the African-American ref is the one that called it and he is shown at the 46 second mark walking behind the play. You cannot see the ref when he calls the t. I was trying to squash the fish tale that the ref called the technical from downtown Murfreesboro.

That is kinda funny. Also, I hope this clears Coach Wortman's name from the other thread about people saying he laughed in a Bradley fan's face. If you watch the video, there is a guy giving him the business next to the scorers table...then after the hand shake line a momma is about ready to fall off the bleachers ripping into him. If all he did was chuckle and move on that is completely understandable. I know I laughed just watching the replay.

First of all, it was after the ref passed him when he said it. Second, the ref that called it is not the one coming up behind the player. The one that called it is the African-American ref you see walking towards the action close to the Bradley bench at around the 46 second mark. Have we learned nothing in 16 pages. Please lock this one too so we don't spend 16 more pages chasing our tail. After 16 more pages that ref will have come from downtown Murfreesboro to call it.

"Surely someone, somewhere is concerned enough about what we are teaching our STUDENT-ATHLETES on both teams about competition and accountability. And I mean concerned about it NOW. Not tomorrow, not next year, but THESE kids in THIS time." I thought you were on the right track, until I read the rest of your post. So the lesson we want to teach our kids is that it is ok to say "fu" to an authority figure? What about the accountability for #44 who chose the absolute worst time to spout off even after both teams had been warned earlier.

wrong on BOTH counts my brotha...keep saying he wasn't involved and not even close....it might help you sleep at night.

Bradley is getting attention because people like you will NEVER let it go. Blackman folks have moved on and excited for the tourney draw on Saturday. The only reason I jumped in this crap is to knock back the re-writing of history that was going on. BOTTOM LINE....#44 said FU to an official behind his back...another official saw it and called him on it. Let the young man learn a lesson instead of excusing the action. How would you handle this scenario? You and your brother are at a public place...some kid you've never met before stands behind your brother and gives him the finger. Your brother never heard anything.....what do you do? Please answer honestly. Officials are a crew and for 2 hours they essentially are brothers and have each other's backs. If you've ever done it you would know, but you are more content sitting on your rear end criticizing.

WOW, it only took 14 pages to throw the race card....GROW UP! Also, yes BOTH teams were warned in the first half about keeping their mouths shut. Blackman did....BC didn't end of story. run through screen - you might see that get called once in a season traveling on BC - maybe, but player had lost ball on his way down, so benefit of the doubt. traveling on Blackman - you're kidding right? you have the right to establish possession in a situation like that which he did when he sat up and then called the time out.

Here we go....next week it will be 50, 60 the next. Look at the video....there is NO way he could have come "running from 40 feet away" He was trailing the play walking towards the BC bench. I LOVE REVISIONIST HISTORY!!! I'll spout anything that sounds good to make my case look better.

Oh, so you were in the huddle with the refs? I guess you do know what you are talking about. Sorry to have doubted you.

My facts are straight. The ref that called it is the one you see walking up the court at 45 seconds (non-politically correct, but the black ref). The ref that #44 was talking to was the one he said FU to when he went past him. Then you hear the whistle. My point was, from the position the ref was in at 45 seconds there is NO way he could have or would have backed all the way out to 30 feet away from the bench as he was almost to the bench the last time he appears in the video.

Here it is guys....or it's all there is so far. I would love to see a video from the other side of the gym. It is basically of the last half minute or so of the game. At about the 45 second mark is where it starts. Bradley player has ball, drives for last shot attempt, slips and loses ball, Blackman secures and calls timeout. At 53 seconds you see #44 start to talk to ref, ref walks past #44, then at 58 seconds you hear the whistle for the Tech. You will also see at about 45 seconds the ref that called it was close to the scorers table and walking behind the action. This disproves the 30 foot arguement as nothing more than a fish tale. If he was 30 or more feet away, he would have had to run out of there. I would say 20 feet max and that is nothing. Although I've already seen some say he was 40 feet away. This time next year it will be 75 feet away.

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Still waiting on the video.....cue the Jeopardy music.

I admit, I'm not a fan of all the antics. However, the "Exit that way" chant is something they do after every win and has never been a problem before. It is the same as the old "Go start the bus" that has been done. The only difference is they usually do it from the stands with 30 seconds left or so. Obviously, they didn't have they chance to do it before the game was over, and they were already on the court celebrating and decided to still do it. It's not like their intent was to rush the court to taunt BC's student section. They probably should have canned it and moved on but tact has never been a strong suit from teenagers....from any school.

I realize Blackman's coaches had no idea. They were getting their team together in the time out. Their focus was on how to draw up a decent look with 1.5 seconds, not looking at Bradley's bench. And officials don't routinely give reasons for T's, nor do they have to. They go over, make the T signal give number and award 2 shots. I remember one time he was overturned, but if that is motive, wouldn't you think he would have overlooked it. If he was mad at the guy for overturning him, why would he have his back when a player cusses him? makes no sense. And when he is sanctioned for this "horrendous blunder" please respond back and let us know....I won't hold my breath.

I know what I saw and it has been confirmed by multiple people. If 5% of the people there saw it then that's well over 100 people that would have seen it, so pretty reliable if you asked me. I guess my biggest deal with it is the perspective of the situaton. The player in question is the one that cost them the game, not the official. Maybe if the ref would have T'd him up in the first half he would have kept his mouth closed at the end. The ref did his job...watching the bench area during a time-out. Watch any bball game...during timeouts there is one official watching each bench. Unfortunately, what will get lost in the rhetoric is that it was a great game between two good teams. Well, this has devolved into a He said - She said peeing contest so I'm out. Congrats to Bradley on a great season. I guess we'll see you at your place this fall for the return football trip.

Honestly, nobody wants to see a hard fought game between two teams come down to that. However, my point was that for what it was, it HAD to be called. Honestly, I'm sure most Blackman fans have as hard of a time believing that Coach Wortman did that as BC fans believe their player did what has been said. For a guy that rarely shows much emotion anytime, would seem like a stretch. Maybe it was an assistant. Maybe he was celebrating going to the tourney with somebody and they were close to a BC fan. I highly doubt he walked over to a BC fan and laughed right in their face. I didn't see that because I was watching 2 grown men chasing officials all the way across the court....but BC fans aren't sore losers though. sorry just had to slide that last one in.

Again....different game. Wait for "your" last second shot??? Blackman had the ball and called a time out. The BC player slipped and fell (traveled) and lost the ball. Blackman secured it and called the t.o. That's when crap hit the fan. As to the last minute. I saw TWO teams battling. Blackman missed the front end of a 1 and 1....Blackman turned it over, but the kid from BC took 4 steps for the layup, thus turning it over. BC player slips and falls driving for a final shot attempt and loses the ball. Quite honestly the same nerves that dominated the first 3-4 minutes of the game seemed to return in the last minute for both teams. I just had a problem with your certainty that BC "WAS" going to win in OT. never will know. As for your size, that is what I meant. Blackman hasn't played a team that small and fast to my knowledge. You could see it affected them, especially early on. They were beating Blackman's bigger players to rebounds in the paint that should not happen. BC was a gritty, scrappy team that I'm sure was fun to watch over the course of the season. Although the disciplined part we will have to agree to disagree. Diciplined teams don't routinely curse at officials through the course of the game.

Again, I am convinced we were at different games. Nobody "had the ball" when it was said. It was after Blackman was awarded a timeout after the scramble for the ball. I just happened to be watching there, because it was right in front of where the play ended and as the players were heading to the bench, I saw the other official there say something to the coach or the team (probably whether it was a full or 30 second time out), the official turns to walk away and that's when the kid spouts off.

The official that it was directed to didn't see who said it. That's why he couldn't call it. You can't call a T if it came from the crowd. The officials are a three-man crew. If you have any experience officiating, you know that you handle your own business, but if something is directed at a crew-mate that they don't see, it is your job to have their back and call it. No collaboration, no discussion. Those three guys are a team just like the two teams playing. Some groups are better than others. This particular group I thought did a good job overall. They missed some, they got some. By and large they let the kids play and even warned both sides early on. We've all seen crews that think they are more important that the game, but this wasn't the case last night. Bottom line is the kid said it (Myself and at least half a dozen others saw it), the ref saw it and t'd him up. I saw it happen, and I was a lot further than the ref and it was quite obvious what was said. If you think about it 25-30 feet is not that far. You and a buddy stand together - have your buddy take 8-10 steps and turn around and mouth "F You". It was during a time-out so it wasn't like it was in the heat of the action for the noise level.