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wrong wrong wrong--baylor beat christian bros in state duals finals last yr and holloway won his match vs grey... yes i know holloway beat connell from mccallie in d2 individuals last yr.. but this is team duals we are speaking of this week not individuals

agreed --im not even saying holloway was a sure win .. as a matter of fact i believe that would have been a 3 pt decision either way..still giving baylor the victory by pts..

wow too bad holloway was out at 120 or this would have likely been a baylor victory..he did beat gray last yr at 103

agreed, but do you think the matches will be any closer this time? i could see the hill having a little better showing this time... maybe 38-24 type match...i think soddy duplicates the score of there last dual with independence

any thoughts on semifinals indy vs soddy and the hill vs cleveland...final score projections..?

to bad c. holloway was injured at 120 or this would have been a baylor victory dont you think? he did beat n.grey in the finals of 103 last yr!

will event be on internet livestreaming to watch?

by the way does anyone know if you will be able to watch the state on internet?

the hill will have to have alot of breaks to upset cleveland--heres how it would have to go 106--cle-d--3-0 hudgins wrestled 113 last time and didnt get pinned 113--cle-p--9-0 weak spot based on the records 120--cle-m--13-0 possibe pin for cle 126--sh--p--13-6 not likely but could happen 132--sh--d--13-9 upset but 5-4 match possible 138--cle--d--16-9 another match could go either way 145--sh--p--16-15 goldstein very tough 152--cle--d--19-15 could be major or pin 160--sh--p--19-21 hill needs a pin here 170--cle--d--22-21 close match last time 182--cle--p--28-21 could be close for a bit 195--sh--p--28-27--hill dominated this match last time 220--sh--p--28-33--watched hayes before he need a pin early or he will get decisioned 285--cle--p--34--33--easy win for the victory hill would have to have another pin or upset at 138 to pull out a victory--most likely score probally 42-24

i think another pool is cleveland,woodland, rome, science hill

pools please....need to see some pools to get the conversation going!

WHAT IS THE NORMAL RUN TIME OF CLEVELAND DUALS? DOES IT USUALLY START AT 9AM SHARP AND THAN WHAT TIME DOES IT USUALLY FINISH UP?

I agree independence is tough each season but i do believe ravenwood and science hill have finished higher the last two years at the state duals. Thats why i believe at least those two teams sure be higher than indepence. Just a thought as we know the tournaments will work everything out very soon and maybe independence will really be as good as ranked..

THE CLEVELAND DUALS WILL SHOW YOU WHERE ALOT OF TEAMS ARE AT THIS EARLY IN THE SEASON! I THINK INDEPENDENCE IS RATED WAY TO HIGH!

1.CLEVELAND 2.SODDY 3.CHRI BROS 4. BAYLOR 5. BRADLEY 6. SCIENCE HILL 7. FATHER RYAN 8. RAVENWOOD 9. MCCALLIE 10. CLARKSVILLE JUST A GUESS HOW THEY WOULD FINISH IN A BIG DUALS TOURNAMENT!

1. baylor 2.bradley 3.soddy 4.science hill 5. father ryan top5

just wondering who will be the favorite to win this tournament. i know season has not started but just curious what your pretournament top five would be.

my picks for finals--- hudgins upset over boatman armstrong at 112 cole--shill 119 hall over science hill knowles 130 tapia for sure 135 williams at 140 145 for sure ruggie from greenville snyder a lock at 152 johnson close decision--very close stull automatic at 171 vaughn at 189 close decision carlson upset 215 hayworth automatic hweight

YEAH I'M SURE YOURE RIGHT, SODDY MAY HAVE FORFEITED THE LAST 3 TO 4 MATCHES THE FIRST TIME THEY MET MAKING IT APPEAR TO BE CLOSER THAN IT WAS

JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT--SCIENCE HILL WRESTLED SODDY EARLIER IN THE YEAR IN A CLOSE MATCH ONLY TO LOOSE 40 TO 30. BUT WITH SD HAVING TO FORFEIT AT 103 THAT WOULD HAVE MADE A 12 PT SWING IN THE FIRST DUAL WITH SCIENCE HILL WINNING 36 TO 34.. SO IT IS POSSIBLE WITH SODDY HAVING TO FORFEIT 103 THIS TIME AROUND THAT SCIENCE HILL PULLS OFF THE FIRST MAJOR UPSET OF THE STATE TOURNAMENT.

hudgins vs escue--- sh6 sutherland vs myers--sh3 schurlknight vs sommers--sh6 schurlknight vs mccreery--sh6 knowles vs feuerbacher--bl +3 tapia vs brown--sh 6 vaughn vs nell--vaughn ? riley vs patton--riley +3 snyder vs sells--snyder +6 fullbright vs rice--fullbright +6 stull vs vaughn--stull +6 vaughn vs well-- vaughn +3 lyons vs rush-- rush +6 brittain vs smith-- smith +6 final sh-51 to blackman 15 not counting vaughn vs nell match-- this will not be a close match