JSamson7

46 minutes ago, Rasslinking said:

Let’s prove who is most knowledgeable.

12 weights

top 6

possible of 72 points

After sub state, you two publish your 12 weight top 6 State placers

 

 

It's not necessary.

15 minutes ago, Rasslinking said:

Let’s be real….. there isn’t a lot of competition.

Not hard to get wrong.

 

165 is down from last season on depth, the top 4 are pretty much going to be Piper and everyone else IF she stays there. I have no idea where she goes & she'll win at either class, but I came close to putting her at 152 since she's down there and Harris moving to 145.

Diamond too at 185, that could be a game changer. I'm not sure if those 3 moves are permanent after the duals but those drops were obvious (to me) after I saw our weigh in sheets from the match we had @ Cleveland for substate.

Although unlikely, a Fowler-Graham-Gilmore 152 pound field or a Murphey-Lynn-Young 185 group would definitely give the girls tournament some added juice with matches like that.

4 hours ago, cougars130 said:

165
 

Piper Fowler (Cleveland) – SO

Irelynn Laurin (Rossview) – FR

Carter Grissom (Riverdale) – JR

Aliya Whaley (Maryville) – SO

Cearyona O’Connor (Montgomery Central) – SO

Madalynn Sepulveda (Rockvale) – SO

 

here is an example as to why I said even if you don’t admit it that I help pin-Tn with the rankings since Round 5 of the Rankings I have put out this has been my 1-6. 
 

you have had Jaden Enos at the number 6th spot. How come the change now? 

1 Tournament at 132 and you move Brooklyn to 132. Interesting..

 Cobb at number 2 at 132 out of no where.. 

Ty Bryant beats Long a state champ below Cobb who has no big match wins? Interesting 

 

Yes I had Enos there, but going back through recent results led me to putting Sepulveda there. There were others in that mix I could have put at 6th too (Harris from Oakland was close), but looking at her body of work I went with Sepulveda.

43 minutes ago, cobrakid8 said:

Than quit worrying about something you cannot control (or in your case wont take the time to control) and just cheer on your daughter, because if this place had existed when I was a wrestler and my parents came on here like so many others had and ran their mouths, We would have had a very long talk and if it continued their butts would have been sitting outside while I wrestled, because yes they made sacrifices, but in the end I made the biggest sacrifice by actually participating in this sport. Do your job and be a great parent, because in the end they will prove if they are in that top spot or not. 

If it's who I think it is, he shouldn't be worried about it. She's as close to a lock for another state title as there is.

Sorry I couldn't get updates out as fast as some would have liked, between doing work for the Boom Ranch boys and coaching my own team it's been busy.

1 hour ago, cbg said:

Just a hunch but they are not keeping up with the rankings because no one has volunteered to do the girls rankings.  If you know of someone that is knowledgeable and objective you may want to have them contact those individuals that are doing the rankings.  The D2 rankings have not been updated on a regular basis because for a long time no one volunteered to do them.

Not so fast my friend...

http://www.pin-tn.com/?page_id=1883

1 hour ago, noonesfool said:

Never ever easy Sampson, appreciate your efforts.

Thanks, you too!

1 hour ago, cougars130 said:

Lol sounds good and that’s what I do rank them where I see fit and trust Pin Tn gets rankings from me even if he does not admit it. 

Your need for self gratification/recognition far exceeds any contributions you make towards what we do or do not include on Pin-TN. As I said before, I don't copy someone else's work hence why I haven't commented to you directly on anything up to this point after I said I wouldn't. If you still want to compare notes, I'll be in Franklin in a couple of weeks so we can talk then.

40 minutes ago, Rasslinking said:

You rank them how you want ha.

Look forward to Pin-tn.com rankings

 

Those will be out later, like Mr 130 there will be some decisions to be made that I alluded to now that duals revealed some drops.

26 minutes ago, Rasslinking said:

Seeing you were at Cleveland….. looking at the results Bella Harris is at 145, and Grassman is back at 114.

If there are others, you saying something won’t change what the teams can do. Weight descents don’t allow it.

I'm factoring in weight descents. Good luck to all of the teams competing. 

11 hours ago, cougars130 said:

Said this same thing last year makes no sense to split to 4 regions to have a sectional dual again. It’s simple just top 2 in each region advance to the state tournament.. 

I'll say this, don't be surprised if some BIG names have dropped down a weight class from where they're ranked now based on what I saw on Saturday. Out of respect for those athletes & coaches getting their teams ready for duals, I'm going to hold off on putting out any updates on Pin-Tn until next week.

1 hour ago, Rasslinking said:

Well there were only 2 Region Champions

 

 Those 2 are separated

And Rossview anf Clarksville b are separated bc they are same region

Clarksville won 39-28

3 Region champs (Gibbs, Cleveland, Rossview). Next year this tournament deserves to have 8 teams, if they want to keep the girls division growing they should have 8 teams in field the same as the boys.

1 hour ago, noonesfool said:

Jsampson, I’m apologizing for being off topic, but can you direct me to the results for yesterday’s Alcoa Tournament. Can’t find it on Track.

Not sure they posted it, we were in Cleveland yesterday getting beat down and not there.... lol

9 minutes ago, Rasslinking said:

Region Champions are separated….. only 4 teams.

I know that, so how would you know the specific match ups if they're not posted?

Also, no score from Riverdale vs Clarksville?

5 hours ago, Rasslinking said:

Rossview vs Gibbs

 Cleveland vs Clarksville

Where are they showing these matches? Also, do you have the score of Riverdale & Clarksville?

27 minutes ago, cobrakid8 said:

If you see him J ask him what happened, you might see the reason why he did what he did if he wants to talk about it. 

I don't know him personally, but I know the Dyer name has long lineage through that program. 

42 minutes ago, fooseball95 said:

I think it’s crazy Cole lost a wrestle off and all the sudden he’s moved lmaoooo, like stop it. Tssaa should no way allow this. But wish him the best 

Hard to imagine him wrestling for anyone but Cleveland given the family ties.

R1-1 Gibbs hosts R2-2 Bradley Central
R2-1 Cleveland hosts R1-2 Maryville
R3-1 Riverdale hosts R4-2 Clarksville
R4-1 Rossview hosts R3-2 Rockvale

49 minutes ago, Rasslinking said:

As Fowler?

Your not helping your case as a knowledgeable girls wrestling person.

 

Either one, but of course the fan boy in you assumes I'm talking about Fowler.

All 3 are recent Super 32 finalists, right? Which ones were champs though most recently? All Fargo AA's, correct? Which ones were most recent? State champs? Each one has at least one state title with all 3 likely to be 4 timers, am I right?

I could keep going but what more do you need? It's all conjecture at the moment and seems to me "you're" underestimating what EM has accomplished. It's too bad we're not likely to see them match up.

7 hours ago, Rasslinking said:

Maggie is 2nd for sure.

Fowler is 3-0 against her over the last year. Last one being a pin.

No way anyone can argue Maggie ahead of her.

 

Are you sure about that? Ella Murphey seems to be left out of these type conversations when they come up, but to me her resume is every bit as good as the other two.

35 minutes ago, soms2 said:

Who’s Poind4Pound #1?

Piper??

 Anyway, let’s continue to keep an eye on this ever growing program… 

https://wcyb.com/sports/content/king-womens-wrestling-building-an-dynasty-in-east-tennessee

Thanks for the post, soms. I'll be pulling for Luciano to win it all this year. Her sister worked for me on a few business projects and introduced me to Ana a couple of years ago. It's been fun following her career at King, she's a great role model for HS girls competing in the sport and excited about the growth she's seen from our TN girls wrestling programs. 

10 minutes ago, Rasslinking said:

Y’all are funny

I agree.

2 minutes ago, cougars130 said:

Oh hints why you critique what I put out but can’t be questioned about yours.. got it. 
 

then why do the rankings if you don’t care who is where? 
 

while also making calls to coaches to find out information that’s not important for your rankings. 
 

I understand I help influence your rankings so it ok you don’t have to tell me. 

I'm not into plagiarism "hence" I do my own homework with input from people/coaches whose opinions I respect. Not saying yours are bad, but your work has no bearing on how I go about doing mine.

I'll tell you what though, you won't hear a peep from me about your work the rest of the season.

32 minutes ago, cougars130 said:

Also how come the change to Mila Risner to 120 when I mentioned it about the 1/9 Rankings you said the coach stated she should be kept at 114? 
ofc coaches don’t want to give all their information out but since I already put Burton in the rankings or mentioned their names might as well not keep it a secret anymore. 

Relax.... I'm not expecting to be perfect nor am I all too worried about who, what, when, or where girls are at right now. In the end, the only standings that matter are the ones at the end of the year.

2 hours ago, cougars130 said:

If you would swap Shelton with Cresson on pin TN rankings it would go 

1. Shane

2.Val

3.Cruz

4.Cresson

5.Shipley 

6. Shelton

BUT

Shipley beat Shelton who beat Cresson

making Shipley over Cresson..

even tho Cresson has a win over Shipley

that would put shelton at 6 and if you put Mila or Burton in at 14 it pushes shelton out.

 

152 I think Gilmore makes the drop if she wants a title why would Maggie do it if she is going to win at 152.

Shipley wrestled Nataleigh Shane pretty tough in the finals at the Halls tournament. She's all gas and no breaks, constantly putting pressure on her opponent. Postlewaite is good too, but based on what I saw from Shipley against Shane at Halls even in a loss I went with Shipley.

All 4 of them (Shipley, Postlewaite, Cruz, Shelton) are in Region 1 so that will sort itself out soon enough with one or two of them likely to drop out of the top 6 after the dust settles.