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  4. State of Tri-cities 5A/6A football

    in Class 5A & Class 6A

    Posted

    20 minutes ago, ViperRight382 said:

    You sound very disgruntled. Should change the name of this thread to "The State of Dobyns Bennett Football" with all the recent posts by angry DB fans and haters LOL.

    Not sure which team you support, but you have to understand that the Tri-cities fans are just as passionate about our teams as are fans from the other parts of the state...   And that leads to so much pent-up frustration amongst Tri-cities fans because we see other non-Tri schools who are very serious about football and building a championship program.     And we Tri fans all know deep down that it is NEVER going to happen here.      So yeah I suppose all of us sometimes take out our angst online here from time to time.                I no longer care about the playoffs for my team, instead just try to enjoy the regular season, win more games than we lose, beat Crockett each year, try to win R1 5A, stuff like that.

  5. State of Tri-cities 5A/6A football

    in Class 5A & Class 6A

    Posted

    12 hours ago, JDHoss said:

    Everyone from Bristol to Memfuss plays for fun. Otherwise, no one would be playing. What matters is organization and coaching from the youth leagues through the feeder programs to high school. Toss in demographics, population (not school size, but area population), and it's not hard to see how the bigger metro schools dominate 5 & 6A. Last year here in Florida, the FHSAA revamped their classification system to Metro and Suburban divisions. Instead of Class A through Class 8A, we now have 1M - 4M and 1S - 4S. There's also a 1R (Rural) class for remote rural schools like Pahokee. The Metro schools are comprised of the Palm Beach county to Dade county metro area, the Jacksonville metro area, the Orlando metro area, and the Tampa metro area. The reason they did it was because these schools were dominating the state championships for the most part. It didn't matter how good of a youth league program, feeder schools and coaching staff someone like a Vero Beach had, there was just a ton more talent available in the big metro areas, and while I can't speak for Tennessee, the schools here recruit like crazy and in the metro areas, teams can really load up. 

    That's pretty interesting about how Florida is doing classifications, wonder if something similar would work in Tennessee?       Almost like you could have an M-class (Metro) and the R-class (Rural) separate championships, much like the privates have their own playoffs now.           Then it would come down to semantics about the schools on the border between M & R.       I honestly cannot see the TSSAA ever making that drastic of a change so most likely nothing changes in TN unless they hear that FL has 8 classes, they might do that so more schools get the participation trophy.

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  6. State of Tri-cities 5A/6A football

    in Class 5A & Class 6A

    Posted

    1 hour ago, WaCoJaCo said:

    In the grand scope of things, it really doesn't matter other than having a trophy and being able to brag about it. It doesn't count for much when the next season starts and you have to defend it. Not many (if any) not named Oakland, Maryville or Alcoa can. As for the "mythical state championships" go ahead and throw them out of the record books. But throw them all out, including College. I've never seen a post on CoachT complaining about any other school's state championship voted in by the media. Only DB. And there is zero evidence that would show they wouldn't have won those championships in a playoff anyway. 

    And another thing. It gets tiresome to hear people talk like all of DB's wins come against "much smaller schools". It used to be "smaller schools" now you say "much smaller schools". I remember when you used to say upper east tn couldn't compete with the rest of the state because we just didn't have the athletes. Then came Elizabethton and Greeneville. Now you've changed to upper east tn. 5A and 6A. If Science Hill, Boone, or DB ever go out and hire a good coaching staff you'll see that change also. It's always coaching. Everybody including me said DB would never win a championship in Basketball. They hired a good coach and you see what happened. ITS COACHING!

    If not for you-know-who that 2012 DB team could have made the state title game without a doubt, they were the best I have ever seen in the Tri-cities

  9. State of Tri-cities 5A/6A football

    in Class 5A & Class 6A

    Posted

    16 minutes ago, blitzinbuc said:

    I saw Bristol beat Knox Central in a playoff game at Neyland Stadium one of those years. They were awesome! I think there were just 3 classifications back then, A, AA, and AAA. 

    As big of a school as D-B was, I don't think they've ever even played in a state championship game since the playoffs began in 1969!!!!!  All of their mythical state championship were awarded via the media.

    Careful, some of the DB faithful can be a bit sensitive about that...    But to their point, even college football awarded a national champion based on media vote until about 10 years ago.        You are correct though in that other than Tennessee High none of the Tri-cities big schools have ever played for a state title and they never will.      Not sure school size has that much to do with it if the other pieces are not in place to build a championship team.      DB can always beat up on the much smaller local schools just based on nothing more than having better athletes due to their student population, but where they get exposed is going up against schools who take football seriously.      Science Hill is always in the top 10 biggest state schools but they have never even come close to a championship.        Tri-cities football is a lot of fun locally and we have a lot of passionate players and fans, but in terms of the playoffs it's a dead end.

  11. State of Tri-cities 5A/6A football

    in Class 5A & Class 6A

    Posted

    4 minutes ago, ViperRight382 said:

    The state of Tri-cities 5a/6a football is in the same state it has always been. Other than the 4a programs, no one has EVER won a state championship in the modern era. If you exclude a couple of the Sullivan South teams in the mid to late 2000’s, no one has even sniffed a state championship, and I believe they may have been 4a at that time. One of those years, a bad DB team smoked a semi finals Sullivan South team in the regular season. Bottom line, the “big schools” in the tri-cites have never had the talent on the field to consistently compete at a state championship level.

    99% of the time that is correct.       Exceptions I can think of would be the 2012 DB team and 2014 Science Hill.     Of course both of those teams got obliterated in the 3rd round by you-know-who by a combined score of 86-20

  13. Riverdale host Cookeville what’s your thoughts

    in Class 5A & Class 6A

    Posted

    COMMON OPPONENTS:

    Green Hill (Riverdale won 50-13, Cookeville won 28-20)
    Siegel (Riverdale won 49-7, Cookeville won 35-14)


    OPPONENTS WHO ARE STILL ALIVE IN THE PLAYOFFS:

    Riverdale
    5A Beech (Riverdale won 16-14)
    5A Henry County (Riverdale lost 21-20)
    6A Germantown (Riverdale lost 41-32)
    6A Oakland (Riverdale won 25-24)
    6A Smyrna (Riverdale won 36-0)

    Cookeville
    4A Stone Memorial (Cookeville lost 25-20)
    6A Mt. Juliet (Cookeville lost 38-14)


    SIGNATURE WINS:

    6A Oakland (Riverdale won 25-24)

     

    EDGE:

    Gotta think Riverdale takes this one, they have gone up against much tougher opponents all season and done pretty well.
     

  14. Anderson county hosts Elizabethton Cyclones

    in Class 3A & Class 4A

    Posted

    14 hours ago, Mavericksinflight said:

    Blazer has the correct info exactly. Not sure based on info why he gives edge to AC. I think AC has a comfortable edge provided everyone healthy. Hmmm but blazer you are close. 

    This one has the feel of closeness to it, I picked AC just to troll some of my Betsy friends.      But it's probably a tossup more than anything.              If it's really played @ ETSU I might just drop by, never seen AC in person

  15. State of Tri-cities 5A/6A football

    in Class 5A & Class 6A

    Posted

    10 hours ago, MidTennFootball said:

    In 6A, you got as many as 8 teams that can win the title this year. The favorite is someone not named Oakland or Maryville. The changing landscape of HSFB is going to make it hard to establish the kind of run the Rebels achieved. 

    Can't speak for 5A, I just get the feeling that winning championships isn't the kind of priority for the 6A NET programs like it is for the other strong programs in the state. 

    It's the same for NET 5A.        None of the big schools in NET start off the season with a championship in mind, it's more like beating your biggest rival, or trying to win Region 1, or whatever.          That is where I find myself as a fan now as well, at some point you have to just realize that it's never going to happen, so I go out and support my team during the regular season and don't worry too much about the playoffs.

  16. Anderson county hosts Elizabethton Cyclones

    in Class 3A & Class 4A

    Posted

    Common opponents:

    Carter (AC won 49-0, EHS won 38-0)
    Science Hill (AC lost 26-23, EHS won 27-7)
    Sullivan East (AC won 49-0, EHS won 47-0)


    Games against teams who are still alive in the playoffs:

    4A Gibbs (AC won 55-6)
    5A Clinton (AC won 28-14)
    5A Knox West (Ac lost 8-7)
    5A Powell (AC lost 35-21)
    6A Bearden (AC lost 45-27)
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    4A Greeneville (EHS lost 23-13)
    5A Mo West (EHS won 20-7)


    Signature wins:
    EHS - beat local 6A schools DB & Science Hill, both nearly 3x the size of Elizabethton
    AC - not a win, but came within 1 point of Knox West, so perhaps a morale victory

    Bottom line:
    Seems like AC has played a much tougher schedule, but EHS fans might make a reasoned/logical argument against that.    I have not seen AC play and only saw EHS play once against a mediocre DB team.      Edge goes to AC in this one but never count Elizabethton out until the final buzzer

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  17. State of Tri-cities 5A/6A football

    in Class 5A & Class 6A

    Posted

    3 hours ago, StarBright87 said:

    Blaze for 6a there's 2 teams that's holding the state hostage Oakland and Maryville. So the Memphis area teams can say this is the best it's going to get cause we're not beating Oakland and the 2 knoxville teams can say the same because we're not beating Maryville, this is the first year in forever that 6a is wide open.

    From '17 to '20 when the 2 knoxville teams were in db conference db went 7-2 against Bearden and Farragut and would have faced Oakland some of those years had it not been for Maryville. This was the 1st year that realistically db would maybe had a chance at beating Maryville, still wouldn't matter because Bearden is loaded this year 

    For 5a your trailblazer were just a year too early, last season West team probably the best team they ever had, if yall could have that team from last year I could see a semi game or maybe a state championship game, this West and Powell team are beatable. For TN High they're always going to suffer from living in a small town that you have the inner city kids split into 2 high schools. Tn high best player this year #1 Donnie Thomas he's a transfer from VA High had they not had him they wouldn't even won some of the games they did. Tn high will always need the athletes from VA high and VA high will always need the meat and potatoes guys from Tn High.

    You're right, with the Tri-cities big schools it always seems to be a "well if this, or if that...." type of scenario.      I remember that 2012 DB team was smoking everybody coming & going and certainly looked like the first time in forever that they might make it to the big dance, then they got badly out-coached by you-know-who in the 3rd round and lost by 20 points.           As you say, if last year's Boone team was playing in this year's 5A landscape they would have a good shot.       I don't know, there is something magical that happens when you cross the Knox County line every time.      Maybe one day we will see the perfect storm materialize for a Tri team but I'm not holding my breath.

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  19. Beardan at JC

    in Class 5A & Class 6A

    Posted

    8 minutes ago, Whs1984 said:

    Load the box and stop or slow bearden run game make the QB throw to beat you don't know much about JC offense but it's going to be rough sledding against bearden defense. Thinking it will be low scoring and comes down to which staff gets impatient and makes a mistake 

    Using A=1, B=2, etc.....

    BEARDENBULLDOGS = 141 = 1 + 4 + 1 = 6
    JEFFERSONCOUNTYPATRIOTS = 314 = 3 + 1 + 4 = 8

    So you are correct, JC squeaks by in a close one by a score of 8-6

  20. State of Tri-cities 5A/6A football

    in Class 5A & Class 6A

    Posted

    6 minutes ago, 83SouthRebel said:

    Speaking as a fan of WR. I see no improvement. I could write a full page of issues that I see and have heard with my own ears. Everyone has hashed out the why's. Lacking talent. No youth programs or middle school programs. No summer camps. No commitment from coaching staff other than the minimum. You get what you put in to most anything that you do. Take Elizabethton and Greeneville. They were historically good programs but not state champion level programs UNTIL someone made the change. Now look. What changed? The coach? The system? My guess is the folks at Besty and Greeneville that are running the show knew what they wanted and made it happen. The folks at our schools haven't made that commitment. 

    You nailed it my friend.

    "If you aim at nothing, you'll hit it every time."
    ~Zig Ziglar
     

  22. State of Tri-cities 5A/6A football

    in Class 5A & Class 6A

    Posted

    4 hours ago, MuddleHuddle said:

    This was a topic around the table this morning. You have the occasional situation like last year where SH made it to the 3rd round but that’s more uncommon than common. Most years it is a mass round 1 exit. It’s troubling and, if football remotely matters, something has to change.

     

    The big Tri-cities schools play football mainly for fun.    Now yes, the guys are out there giving it their all on the field, but I'm talking about the entire package, the big schools are NOT serious about football like they are in Knoxville & beyond.       Over the last few years my attitude has changed a lot, I now don't even consider the playoffs, just think about trying to win each game and win Region 1 5A, that's really all that matters because once the playoffs start it's over anyway.     In the foreseeable future there will not be a single 5A/6A team get past the Knox County line.

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