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  1. 3 hours ago, Tomcatfan2011 said:

    Liberty has been a rival of Haywood since 2009 actually. Liberty fell off because of coaching we all know that. Just 3 years ago they along with Alcoa were the best teams in class 3A. Liberty has athletes plenty of them! It’s coaching. A lot of teams schedule cupcake games and lose the first or second round of the season I’ve seen it happen. It’s plently quality on Haywood schedule. HC, Jackson NS, Olive branch, Dyersburg, SGHS, Crockett, just to name a few 

    I know what you’re saying but we have just started a new cycle of non-district games to play for the next two seasons, and Liberty has been horrible in the past two seasons. Therefore, it’s a cupcake game. I know the current situation Liberty is in, and the news you’re telling me, isn’t nothing new to me.

  2. 19 minutes ago, Tomcatfan2011 said:

    At what

    You said something about giving Haywood a compliment for scheduling Olive Branch and kind of threw a shot (when I know you weren't trying to) at everyone else for scheduling cupcake teams. However, Haywood plays Liberty this week, which is a cupcake team, with a lot of icing on it.

  3. 8 hours ago, Tomcatfan2011 said:

    It’s homecoming week. Coming off most likely playing the best team in 6A olive branch MS. I look for Haywood to bounce back. A lot of fans being negative because of how we schedule tougher opponents. It’s only to get better instead of scheduling cupcake games. Anyways onto this week. I expect Haywood to win this game by atleast 3 scores. Opinions? Besides liberty QB what do they have 

    Lol, I'm chuckled right now

  4. I know a lot of football teams want to use the “next man up” as a cliche for their team, but you can’t necessarily say the “next man up” as a reference when a lot of people have Holt down for consideration as a finalist for Mr. Football. Luckily for Holt, UTM offered him, but it does suck for him as well because several FBS schools will be highly interested in the kid if he had another big season. 

    In terms of the game, I was going to go with Haywood in the 35-24 area, but with Holt out, I doubt the Indians will score 20. As weird as this sounds, North Side can still finish top-2 in their district, depending on if they can beat Hardin County or not for the championship game.

  5. 10 hours ago, tandem said:

    As a Beech fan, I was very impressed with North Side.  They are huge up front and pretty athletic at the skill positions.  I think they wore down a little in the 4th qt with a lot of guys going both ways.  They had a pretty good combination of run and pass.  I really think they could be a more run oriented offense with those big horses up front.  Good luck to the Indians the rest of the way.  Improvements to your stadium were very nice.

    Thank you guys for scheduling us for the 2019-2020 seasons. Appreciate it, and we are not scared of playing teams that are in higher classifications than what we are currently in. I do think we will get wore down at times during the season, but it'll worry me a lot in November. Thanks for the improvements to our stadium as well. We haven't had any improvements in more than 15 years, and obviously it was much needed. 

  6. 11 hours ago, shockernation said:

    It’s too far I’m guessing? We are in a terrible spot to get coverage! Too far from Jackson...too far from Memphis...wpsd6 outta Paducah does get down here but that doesn’t help you get coverage in TN! Tough for these kids to get the looks! Local paper stinks, Dyersburg and UC are covering themselves...I guess it kinda explains the chip we keep on our shoulders? Hurts when you have an outstanding group of youngins with ZERO coverage! Explains why I’m so mouthy on here but I’m fighting for my boys

    Jackson Sun only covers 13 counties throughout West Tennessee. The only county that is up north that they cover is Weakley County. I believe they exclude Dyer and Obion Counties as well. 

    That’s the reason why they don’t cover Lake County

  7. 3 minutes ago, BLACKFRIDAY said:

    Ignorance is no excuse on the part of the coaching staff.

    Additionally, if the Principal/AD is on the TSSAA board, how did HE NOT know? 

    They cheated, it was premeditated, and nothing will come of it. Typical.

    It's okay broski, these two extra practices is not going to increase Milan's favorites to win state.

  8. 10 hours ago, ReitzFan said:

    I would like to bring another perspective to a table in regards to dwindling attendance at high school games no matter what the level. One reason for the decline in attendance would be the increase in other entertainment and sporting options for people. This is mainly due to the increases in the number of people subscribing to a cable television or to satellite TV. More a TV options equals more people who are less willing to go out to a ball game on a Friday night.

    Another part of the issue will be the fact that college ball games are now being scheduled on Fridays and being shown on TV. Friday night used to be exclusively for high school football and Saturdays for a college football. Now you have the NFL expanding their television presence and the colleges playing on other days than their traditional Saturday ball games. Again more choices for the consumer equals or less Revenue at the high schools on Friday night.

    Another reason for the decrease in attendance at high school football games on Friday night is video streaming of high school football games. Many high schools have now set up their own streaming services and in West Tennessee one radio station has set up a video streaming and offering multiple high school games on live video. What this is doing is that the average fan instead of paying six bucks and going to watch the local high school play and buying hot dogs, popcorn, and soft drinks at the concession stand, they are now staying at home and watching that same game on TV at no charge.

    I personally would like to see live video and television broadcast severely restricted. If there is a broadcast organization that wants to do a television or video broadcast of a ball game, they should in turn have to pay a broadcast rights fee to the schools involved in that game. During the postseason ,  the TSSAA already mandates  that a rights fee  has to be paid  for a broadcast entity  to do a live streaming video  or a live broadcast of a ball game . If this policy was enacted for regular seadon games, at least the schools would get some of their revenue back in the form of Rights fees.

    The bottom line for me is that live video broadcast and live television broadcast of high school games are most definitely hurting the attendance at the games and thus hitting the school's right in the pocketbook.

    I agree with you in terms of steaming games, especially in rainy weather. But I don’t agree with you in terms of what’s on TV for that night. I looked at the Friday nights college football schedule, and the only marquee matchup that’s worth staying in is UCF @ Cincinnati. I don’t think anybody will skip a high school football game just to watch Tulsa @ Michigan State in the first week of the season. Everybody now has the luxury of recording games/shows now.

    I am somewhat confused when we are talking about attendance going down. Is it the average of the attendance in a football, or the total attendance (from all schools in Tennessee) going down? If it’s average, I can see it because there are more schools now than there was 10 years ago. I can’t buy into the “total attendance” because I would figure there are now 9 classifications in Tennessee, and everyone seems like they’re a playoff team, so it doesn’t make sense to me that the total attendance will be going down.

  9. 1 hour ago, ReitzFan said:

    What absolutely killed Humboldt is when they ran Dan Bland out of town infavor of the home town hero. Well, the hero coached them like the middle school coach he was. The Vikings were a good football team just a few years ago.  From what I know, the ship has been righted and the are moving in the right direction. However, much damage was done and it will take time.

    Yes and I agree, but I think if this time is developed well, they should be in the mix for the playoffs. They can take care of their easy schedule and beat teams that they should beat or be in those games. The Scott’s Hill game will prove to me (probably all of us) of how much improvement they have. Making the playoffs is a win for this team and the community.

  10. 1 hour ago, Tide21 said:

    Gibson county lost most of their key starters. If McConnell can get westview together they will more than likely beat GC. 

    Humboldt has the potential to be one of the best 1a teams in the state but I don’t really think the kids will come out and play. To many coaches quitting  and not enough support or so it seems. 

    Union city will put up a fight regardless of talent 

    I looked at Humboldt's schedule and it is fairly easy, but I have no problem for them having an easy schedule based on the current status of where the Vikings are at. Their first three games is Memphis East, Halls, and West Carroll. They should win 2 of 3 if all goes well. They should win at least two of the four between Lake County, Fulton County, Greenfield, and Gleason. If they beat South Fulton, then they should have the confidence to stay in the game with Scotts Hill. Needless to say, I won't be surprised if Humboldt goes .500 if all goes well. And if they make the playoffs, then that should at least bring somewhat excitement back into the program. 

  11. I pretty much took a quick glanced at everyone's schedule for the 2019 season, and there are some interesting non-region games. Yes, there are some games that you expect (Milan/Peabody and Haywood/Henry County) that really aren't intriguing anymore other than rivalries or the fact they have played almost every year for the past 4-6 seasons. So here's my games that are interesting.

    Hardin County @ McNairy Central.  Could McNairy Central take the "next step" in 2019 and can Hardin County finally win their region?

    Union City @ Lake County. Lake County fans are excited to play Union City, and they are confident they can beat them. However, will Union City be the Union City we usually know or will they go back to being a .500 team like they were in 2018?

    Middleton and South Fulton. One school is less than a mile away from Kentucky, and the other is less than 5 miles away from Mississippi. It's an interesting game based off traveling.

    Scotts Hill @ Humboldt. Why Humboldt? If Humboldt just improves week by week in 2019, they have a chance to beat Scotts Hill. This is a game in late October and could potentially determine the growth of the Vikings.

    Gibson County @ Westview. It's a matchup that I think is interesting because Gibson County is probably the better team, but Westview's Quarterback will probably be the best player on the field. Also, this is a game in August that fans will tell how good their team is when they leave this game.

    If there are anymore, feel free to share. Let's have fun with this!

     

  12. We are talking about attendance issues here, not classification issues. Here's my two cents on what I believe is what's going on, especially in West Tennessee (I don't know if this will relate to y'all Middle/East TN folks). Our teams that were powerhouse teams, aren't currently powerhouse teams anymore. Example number one is Camden. I haven't been to a Camden game in a few years, but they haven't been to the second round of the playoffs since 2015. In addition, they had a 2 win season sandwiched between 6 win seasons. It wasn't too long that we can guarantee Camden as a 8-10 win regular season team, with an opportunity to play on Black Friday. Second is Lexington, they are down and down bad. Lexington's stadium is big, but I would hate to see the revenue money they have brought in compared to years past. Humboldt is bad. There's no excitement in McKenzie. Westview is not a good football team. Ripley has been bad for years now. South Gibson is, ehh. And these schools are "one-city schools" like they're not competing with other schools just to get every penny they can get.

    Truth is, there are programs that were really good a decade ago, they aren't good anymore. And fans aren't going to spend money watching bad product, just like fans aren't going to spend money watching a bad money or go to a bad concert, they just aren't. I don't think this has to do with classification issues, we are talking about attendance, not money.

  13. 18 hours ago, BIGPURPLEMACHINE said:

    I don’t want to argue with you so please don’t take what I am about to say as a shot at you.  Just throwing out my thoughts for discussion cause I know you are a level headed Haywood supporter.  I was very disappointed to see Joey Hassell’s Comments on Facebook. The video clearly showed assistant coaches and kids arguing with officials. One can only assume the yelling included not so nice language and one player even jumped at an ump with balled up fists. For Joey Hassell to say that the TSSAA is being unfair to the players is just crazy. I can understand may the players in other sports because they would be on probation and were not involved in the incident but the baseball players and coaches were.  I would think that he would want to hold all involved accountable to prevent something like this from happening again. 

    We get it, it's not the first time that you've said this.

  14. 3 hours ago, FightingBlue0 said:

    You are 100% correct that Milan is just as good as Peabody. There will be many good games all across the state week 1 but Milan @ Peabody on Thursday night is going to be the biggest stage across the state. Peabody got their first win against Milan in 6 years back in 2013 & it’s been back & forth every year since until last season. Peabody comes into this series with a 2 game win streak against the Bulldogs & Milan looks to avenge a heart breaking loss on a 4th & long with under a minute left. Peabody & Milan is a darn good rivalry. Both teams love to beat one another & it’s a nasty fight but there is also a lot of respect for both programs & the communities. I’m just making the case for the best game in  the state opening week on the high school football season. It’s hard to outdo the #2 team in 3A driving 10 miles down the road to play the #1 team in 2A. 

    Number 2 team in 3A? What are you smoking? In a matter of fact, I’ll take Riverside/Lewis County over Peabody/Milan. Don’t fall in love with this “county rivalry” bull crap 

  15. 15 hours ago, BigEdMo said:

    Man all I am Saying is that the umpire in the state game made the call following the rules. I am Good with that. My question is the 100’s of umpires that did not follow the rules and not make the call. Frustration mounts when there is no consistency. It was an unfortunate event and there should be punishment. And I know about Milan man. Just made me chuckle when I heard He was on there deciding the outcome. You know me just shaking the bush. 

    Here's what I believe. The Northwest officials association service Haywood baseball. If this umpire claims that there was a hybrid stance, but Dusty said that he's been doing it all year, then it puts the Northwest association a bad look. It also puts the Southwest (Jackson) association a bad look because I would assume Haywood plays a lot of baseball games in the Jackson area and a lot of umpires that are in the "Jackson" association had Haywood at some point this year.

    So, a pitcher isn't going to change his pitching delivery in the postseason, not going to happen. In addition, he definitely isn't going to do it during the game. Why was this called in the 6th inning and not innings 1-3? The only person that can answer the question is the umpire that called it. To me, this was the umpire taking control of his authority and made Haywood baseball look bad and made the Northwest officials association look bad as well.

  16. Interesting but there’s also real information that’s hidden, just like there is in any information protaining to sports. There’s a story and then there’s the real story as to why this occur.  Don’t put all the blame on TSSAA.

  17. 3 hours ago, MAD SCIENCE said:

    I have no idea, but I heard he ask for a explanation on the call by the umpire and he was ejected without a warning!, If this is true, then this is a big problem with the umpire!

    Umpire don’t half to give out warnings.

  18. 1 hour ago, mrbigster said:

    Say what you eant.I saw Crockett Co last year against Dyersburg who had a very good team.Crockett Co wasnt a bad team.They led in thst game 14-0.Still a lot more to choose from.And Freedom wasnt a bad team,once they got their players all playing.Saw what u want.Yes Trenton won the title.Im glad they did..Lake Ci played 5 teams that Trenton played.Won by about the same scored in every game.Beat Gibson Co which Trenton didnt.So do some research

    Just because a team led 14-0 against a "good team" in Dyersburg, doesn't give the team that was winning, an automatic pass to be a "good team." And if Crockett County was winning 14-0, they should've won that game. Because "good teams" don't let a 2 touchdown lead slip away. Addition, Dyersburg went on a 41-13 run after that 14-0 lead. Freedom Prep was overall, not a good football team. Everyone knew they were a good team in a terrible district, and when they traveled outside of Memphis in November, we all knew they were going to lose. Let's be real. Congratulations on having the bragging rights of beating one team, which beat another team that was the state champions. It's football, it's sports. Nobody cares.

  19. On 12/27/2018 at 5:59 PM, shockernation said:

    Ya think? We have one of the toughest schedules in single A...outside of the region of course! When any 1A team opens Onion City and Crockett Co well...you’re not gonna see ANYONE more physical than those 2 bruisers...so Yes you’re correct! When you bury cupcakes and step up to higher classifications against teams with huge success...yes dude someone will move the ball on us? Of course we already know all of East Tennessee WORSHIPS huntingdon...myself I see them repeating? Write it down...this is LCs year! Injuries can kill a season...we must survive the 1st 2 games! Personally I’d love the rubber match with y’all...

    Hey chief, let's not get too carried away here. Union City went .500 last year in the regular season, and 7-6 overall. Their regular season wins (Oakhaven, TCA, Gibson County, Adamsville, Halls) only one of them finished above .500 in the regular season and got pounced in round one. No quality wins to show for. Meanwhile, five of their six losses were by 14+ points.

    Crockett County started 4-0 but finished 6-6. They finished 3rd last year in their district and will finish 3rd this year. And Crockett County didn't have any good quality wins either. 

    Westview is a bad football and over 80% of West Tennessee football teams can beat Ripley.

    "When you bury cupcakes" did y'all not play Halls and Freedom Prep last year? 

    I get it, y'all are 1A, but let's not "brag" about playing teams that are in a higher classification than Lake County. When you're 1A, you pretty much have to do that.

     

  20. 3 hours ago, GeneralAmerigha said:

    I am kind of surprised at some of the answers here. Let me answer the questions with some questions of my own. 

    1. Why should a kid stay at a crappy school? Why? The reasons so far, and don't take this the wrong way, are LAME

    2. Why should a kid be forced to play for incompetent loser coaches? WHY?

    3. Why does it only warrant a transfer if "immoral" lessons are being taught? And what would that even be? Headhunting? To me it's immoral to play a kid out of position, sit him, waste him, etc. 

    Finally, and this might, I say MIGHT be somewhat unrelated, but WHY DOES SUMMERTOWN GET TO HOST FOOTBALL GAMES IN A COW/CORNFIELD?

    "Because if they transfer to a different school, then we are not teaching them valuable lessons in life. We would rather force them to stay at a school and be miserable than transferring somewhere else and be happy."

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  21. On 5/2/2019 at 10:13 PM, tradertwo said:

    There's another lesson to be learned from this. In your own post you described a positive experience with your son and his team, even though they weren't that great. Now, you say that you'd recommend grandson transferring to a better team... what changed? Will your grandson have a better experience, or will he subconsciously develop the attitude of cutting and running to a "better" situation when the going gets tough? High school sports today, and adulthood tomorrow... marriage, employment, and life in general can be a series of tough times and great ones in the aftermath... if you work through the tough ones.

    "cutting and running to a "better" situation when the going gets tough? Go ask Michael Stroup that. 

    Point is, there's no more loyalty in sports. Now, it's starting to tricker down to the high school level. Stroup, McConnell, Marty Wheeler, Tyler Turner, Rick Rice are all high school football coaches that have to pursue a different job within the last 5 years. Turner and Wheeler's teams went to Cookeville and bounced, Stroup and McConnell had program-best (or near program best success) and left. Rice's team was always a deep playoff team. And that's just high school football coaches I can think of on the top of my head.

    I see a lot of time that a lot of parents (especially old schoolers) that criticize the heck out of high school athletes for transferring to a new school. But coaches do the same exact thing, right? Why are we giving kids heck for doing what's best for them?

    Kids are only in high school for four years. Imagine being the kid that grew up being successful and loving the sport that he/she grew up playing and then hate the sport when he/she gets to high school? Because, now I am noticing a trend of that. 

    In addition, there are kids that don't talk to their high school coaches when they turn the tassel. So if a kid graduates high school, do we give the high school coach credit? When a kid graduates college, do we give the high school credit? When an adult gets a job promotion, do we give the high school coach credit?

    Am I saying that coaches that focuses purely on winning are jerks to the players? No. I do believe that y’all kind of went out of proportion going back to my post on this thread. Times have changed, these kids want to win. They didn’t sign up to play high school sports to be better individuals. I know there are a lot of athletes that believe they have the potential to play in college at what sport they’re playing at. If they transfer in order to see there’s a better chance at obtaining that goal, then why criticize them? I never bought into the hold “play out your high school career at the school you started. Don’t leave when you’re not getting what you want” talk. It’s better to let go and start fresh somewhere else then to hold on and hurt yourself more. Teenagers these days are not as bad when it comes to "quitting when times get rough" as the old-school people perceive them to be.

    The "everybody gets an award" quote that I see a lot. It's the parents that gives the kids the award, not the kid.

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