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Let's hope for the kids sake you're right.

Of course Gallatin posters support TP as coach for MJ. He can't beat them (0-3).

Exactly....

Meanwhile roger only lost twice?? In 08, and 10. In 2010 I remember, that was darn close to being an MJ win. I believe Caleb chowbay got sacked or something inside the gallatin 15 with no time left. Can't remember. Too many nightmares of the past 4 seasons taking over my memory

 

Big daddy perry, I hope you're healthier now, but please take your job back. I miss the days when mt Juliet was mt Juliet...

It's different when the man was your coach, and a good role model. He is a great guy and I believe he has all the assets to be a great coach. Talent has not been on his side, next year should be a different story. If it's not, maybe you have a point. For now I disagree fully.

He is a great guy. I've said that before. But that doesn't mean great coach. You can keep harping on the talent but it's not like MJ is getting #11 from whitehaven next year.

 

And it's not like ravenwood has 100x the talent... Just please stop mentioning talent... It triggers my nerves every time you do because that's just not true. And it's seriously a fat slap in the face of the players that actually bother with MJ. You're basically saying they aren't good at football and never will be just because theyre white and unathletic. Which clearly, evidenced by all the predominately white teams that are still playing, even in our own region and district,isn't true.

Central runs the wing T like MJ USED TO.

Their players also actually like their coach.

 

I think they'll do darn good, if whitehaven still doesn't know how to stop the wing t.

Ok this is not the point of this thread, these two MJ haters are obviously just blind to the truth and quite frankly I don't feel like arguing with such one way street minded individuals.

I love MJ and I'm close with plenty of the players. I want nothing but the best for them. The best won't come with Wannabe Nick Saban with Oregon like tradition raping uniforms and UT INSPIRED EXCUSES as to why they aren't competing against subpar teams.

 

If you knew ANYTHING you would not be defending this crap. He needs to GO. Or roger needs to come back.

You're completely delusional if you actually think MJ is anywhere near the talent level of a few years back. It's honestly not even close. And the fact is, you were 5-5, not 8-2! You DIDNT beat Gallatin, Cane Ridge, or Franklin. And do you want to know a common thing about those 3 losses? Indeed, all three had more overall talent on the field than MJ this year. Cane Ridge dominated your non-existent offense, so don't act like you had a chance to win that game. You didn't. Gallatin game, if you actually heard or seen that match, those last two td's were with 4 minutes left in the 4th quarter. Those were garbage time td's that made the game appear close. You didn't stop Mason all night. (Had you guys loaded the box that night, you could've had a lot better chance, but you didn't ) and Franklin game, you had no answer for that offense. Those were 3 losses where you were flat out beat. Heck, a terrible Spring Hill (class 3A at that) totally dominated MJ in a fall scrimmage. Once again, not on x's & o's. & as bad as Gallatin looked this year on offense, they did just line up and whip MJ on the line of scrimmage that night. I'm sorry, but coaching is not most of your issues.

 

Next year though, I could see you guys making a run possibly. Future is looking better there. But no, you were a 5-5, 6-4 type of team this year. Not an 8-2. Definitely not a 9-1 or 10-0 team like 2011 & 2012. Comical that you think those teams were no better talent than what has been fielded the past couple years.

Did you actually watch the games you are so confidently commenting on? NONE OF THOSE TEAMS HAD ANYONE THAT WAS A WORLD BEATER. NOT ONE OF THEM.

 

The difference is those programs have 100% bought in to their coach and their program. I guarantee you that's not the case at MJ

 

And really? "Made the game appear close"? I was at that game you know..just like I've been to every other MJ game except the whitehaven game...And gallatin had NO answer for that "turrible" MJ offense in the second half. You got outscored 31-13, and needed a clinching first down to actually put them away. MJ had every amount of momentum in the second half.

I know you're happy gallatin has trashed MJ all these years under TP... Of course you want him to stay.

 

And no, these past few MJ teams don't have Caleb Hopkins and contrez like players, you're right, but let's not act like Beech reloads with a new jalen Hurd every year for example, and they're doing JUST fine.

 

It's a 6A team. The talent is there. The school is huge. MJ continues to grow as a city. I can tell you right now, there's a lot of potentially good players walking the halls at MJ (or maybe have had it with the idiots at MJ, FROM THE Admins to the coaches,and are at other schools, looking at WC and Hooper, just one example)

 

THEY WANT NOTHING TO DO with the Crapshow trey perry is running. It's probably the same at Lebanon. No one wants to be apart of that dumpster fire either.

 

Either get that through your head, or get used to these undefeated FRESH/JV teams, that end up being 10-15 member senior classes that all hate the head coach in one way or another by their final year. Wake up.

Gah bull-crap. MJ should NOT have lost to franklin,cane ridge, OR gallatin. 

 

In each one of those games they were mysteriously outplayed,to an excessive level. When you have two even teams, the team that goes down,20-0,21-0, is the one being out-freakin-coached,

 

because I can tell you RIGHT now,Franklin,CR,and Gallatin are not world beaters talent wise in comparison to MJ,but all those teams won or led by 20+ points against MJ.

 

Gallatin really shouldnt have won after their 21-0 lead to 31-34  choke job squaker...

 

What does that make MJ? If they had a coach? 8-2? With that **** talent? Better seeding? Most likely still playing right now? I dont know. Probably

 

I wont name the players that this team has had or has now, thats just as talented as those past players,because ive done it before.

 

But MJGB, P L E A S E  continue to throw the kids under the bus,while BLINDLY supporting Trey perry's piledriving of this program. 

Hopefully.

MJ no offense,especialyl no run game, outside of fake punt offense has been dominated.

 

MJ cant stop the run, whitehaven will have 400 yards rushing.

 

MJ throwing pick sixes

 

Not surprised.

What are the special teams like for Whitehaven?

 

I'm really thinking if whitehaven allows a squib kick or misses a bunch of PATs, they could give MJ a chance.

 

I roast on the MJ program a lot, but the one thing theyHAVE done well is special teams.

Exactly

To answer your question MJ has still beaten no one good.

 

Please don't forget collierville was 5-5 and traveled 3 hours to play with no fan support and only lost by 4, while leading by 10 Most of the game..

Independence 70 Hendersonville 52

I haven't seen MJ this year but they always give us fits. This will be a defensive battle because both run the ball alot...our D has been scoring so I guess we have s slight edge in that area but this will be a tough one to call...our O has got to do better, because ive never seen MJ O make many mistakes. They have a good play caller

Different MJ were watching. You must think they still run the wing t with roger perry. The SPREAD MJ Offense I saw in 2015 is one of the most mistake prone offenses I've ever seen. Mainly because it does not fit them in the slightest.

 

I think the MJ defense keeps them in this game IF they match up well.

 

The offense may literally throw 3-4-5 interceptions and "throw" the game away if they decide to throw it 362 times.

And MJ run game has just been flat out bad all year.

 

Make no mistake, this is a totally different team from the one that almost stole the punch bowl from the party a few years ago, and not in a good way.

 

Basically, if MJ can't run the ball they lose by 60. Because whitehaven DBs vs MJ Wr..simply ain't happening.

 

Special teams would be important too... If MJ rexovers a bunch of squib kicks or whitehaven muffs a few punts then, that'll be a huge factor as well.

Wouldn't be surprised if they lose, but on the other hand wouldn't be surprised if they win.

 

Next week though.. Oh boy

#KeepTreyPerry 

#RightDirection

#we'reyoung

#OnlyUpFromHere

If you're talking about me free agent, no that account is not me.(or the second incarnation of me, heh)

4-0(vs no one) and soon to be 4-1 at home~~~1-4 vs decent teams or even bad teams on the road

 

All signs pointing towards MJ losing by 2 Td or more

How can you prove Hester would do better? My thought process is you give TP another year to prove himself with a lot of returning talent.... If next year goes down the drain than I will totally be on board with you. We still have mcgavock to play, we would go 6-4 and have a favorable first round matchup. The season isn't a complete failure as you make it seem.

Ravenwood is as comparable to MJ as you can get.

 

-Its a more,"Upscale" area

-The team wasnt taht great before a coach came in and turned things around

-The talent really isnt all that great,mainly because theyre from a certain"area"

 

You cant keep giving this man chances.

They are doing nothing but regressing. 

 

2012=Best team evar

Flash forward to offseason,Coach perry falls ill,coach hicks says "imout",coach turchetta says"im out"

 

2013,4-6,MASSIVE drop off from the previous season,sure they lost alot of players,but lets not BS here,they reloaded.

I can name the players but I dont fee like it atm.

They had  extremely underwhelming wins over the likes of Antioch(36-29 AT HOME),and lebanon(29-8)

 

Then got absoulutely destroyed by station camp.

Destroyed by blackman

Yes another underwhelming win vs a subpar central team(23-18) that they really should have lost to if they catch a few balls.

 

Dominated by centennial,flat out outcoached and outplayed.

 

Lost to a beech team without jalen hurd(AKA a beach team that had similar "talent"

 

Blasted by hendersonville

 

Yet another loss to a Gallatin team with "similar talent"(In other words,outcoached)

 

and an amazing win over portland.

 

Flash to 2014.

The Jamboree with oakland further proved how far the team had fallen from 2 short years. 41-0 in 2 quarters..jeez.

 

A 'great' win over a raelly bad lebanon (56-23)

 

A gritty hard earned win over a really bad antioch team(31-13)

 

A win over a station camp team in which they SHOULD have won by 50 with their "talent",but yet they only won by 15. I want to say "Outcoached" but eh,they won. thats all that counts.

 

Blackman-Blasted again

 

Central,Barely won,were 30-40 yards from losing/OT.

 

Centennial-Dominated,and outcoached for the 2nd year in a row.

 

Beech- Another loss in which they were Outcoached

 

Hendersonville- TP shouldve been fired after this,really. 63 points...

 

Gallatin- Admittedly MJ got screwed on a pass interference in this game. But they still shouldnt won by multiple touchdowns,but "bad coaching" 

 

Impressive win over portland

 

And then blasted by oakland for a second time.

 

Flash to 2015,MJ is supposed to be 8-2,9-1,maybe even 10-0 with their "easy" schedule and new district. Only challenge for district should be RAVENWOOD right!?

 

Team is 5-4. With wins over aforementioned subpar teams(lebanon,antioch,central,overton,franklin counter).

 

The only win of note was vs Overton,and arguably,they shouldve lost that,hey trailed 14-0. 

 

They played good vs ravenwood,but I think that was more of ravenwood playing down to them. Or maybe T got outcoached yet  again.

 

For a PROGRAM WITH THE STANDARDS THAT MOUNT JULIET AND ROGER PERRY HAVE SET,THIS IS UNNACCEPTABLE. Its that simple!

 

Hes had chance after chance.

Either git rid of him now,or continue to sink from the Glory Dayz.

 

However,the problem might be,that MJ cant hihre a coach thats better. Unfortunate. Guys like Big Perry only come along once is a lifetime,I guess.

 

But anyway.

 I dont have a problem with TP as a man. I would let him raise and take care of my children.

 

He is a very good family man/man of god outside of football, and thats very respectable.

 

but he's just not that good of a head coach in the win column.... Im sorry,but facts are facts. 

And as you continue to publicly sh*t on the talent and KIDS at MJ,

Yes we don't have contrez. We have jauhar jackson.

 

Yes we don't have reed gurchiek, we have Josh Williams, justice white, Jonathan Jenkins...

 

Yeah you don't have Caleb chowbay. You were blessed with the equal IF NOT BETTER TALENT OF HIS YOUNGER BROTHER IMMEIDAITELY AFTER!

 

And Vaughn Cornelia wasn't that great. Honestly. He wasn't that great character wise either.

 

The team has good players, and even Better upcoming players. The coach is a peanut.

 

If you want MJ to be good like the glory days, then you better start flying some Fire Trey Perry banners over the stadium.

Great opinions.... Are you done now? Your perspective is from the outside looking in, sure the overall record doesn't look great, but you can only do so much with little talent. We don't have a Contrez Mccathern, Caleb Hopkins, Reed Gurchiek, Caleb Chowbay, Vaughn Cornelia, etc... I guess calling our names will help you realize the talent we once had and maybe it will paint the picture you so desperately need to understand. Our demographics suck in Mount Juliet!!! It's very hard to have a good team with very little diversity, speed, lack of playmakers, etc. The freshman teams are coached and cared about a lot more than many others teams in the midstate, therefor we usually have great success. If you look at this years Freshman teams picture you would wonder how they went undefeated. We have just had a talent gap in MJ ever since 2012-13... If you don't understand this, I fear for your common sense skills.

It's not outside looking in. I've been inside the MJ football program. In what way I won't share.

 

This team issue is not talent. You can keep hinting that they are losing because of their skin color or something but that's just not true. MJ Has similar talent to Ravenwood. Which is also a bunch of white kids.

 

Ravenwood isn't 5-4. Ravenwood honestly played a tougher schedule. It's not talent. Will Hester > trey perry.

If you put Hester in MJ, they would be at least twice as better.

 

 

It's coaching. You can keep defending the mediocrity and obvious standard drop-off, but MJ was simply a Better program from top to bottom with ROGER as the head coach. It's the 3rd year now. There is no rebuilding, there is this isn't a Fun Music video:"We are Young".

 

There's no excuse. This team isn't as well coached as it was in the past. It's that simple. It's not opinion, it's fact

When will the "We have no talent" excuses end with MJ? 

 

That backfield is as talented and mature as any backfield in the district.

That line is huge,as big if not bigger than the 2011-12 lines. 

Those receivers are pretty dern good and expierenced.

On defense

Dline could be called inexpierenced,But I dont think defense is the issue with this team,shockingly.

The corners are either seniors or have game expierence

The linebackers,same thing

The safeties,same thing.
 

 

When will the "we're young" excuses end? This team is not young.

 

MJ is not playing a bunch of freshman and sophomores.

 

These are the same players that won how many games in a row as JV again? Theres just no excuse..

 

Ive said it once,and ill say it again,Little perry,is NOT big perry coach wise.

 

This team fell off DRAMATICALLY the MINUTE little perry came in charge.

 on the offensive side when perry had his health issues,and when Coach Hicks left as well during that same offseason.

 

Defensively, Turchetta,and the others left after the 2012 season.

 

The team is NOT as well coached as it was in 2012<. 

 

Do you need any proof that Little T is running this team into the ground?

 

He's the one behind the pink MJ logo/socks and the ridicoulous color scheme changes that MJ has underwent. A simple flipping pink ribbon on the back of the helmet is ENOUGH FOR AWARENESS. Heck,Make the logo on the field Pink.  

Alternate gray pants/jersey is ENOUGH

 

MJ IS NOT A BLACK AND GRAY SCHOOL!!! ITS BLACK AND GOLD COACH T.

 

The guy has lost it. I honestly dont think he had it to begin with.

 

MJ WILL NEVER be the same unless big perry takes back control. ANd with Coach T's EGO,that will NEVER HAPPEN.

Hmmm where are all the people saying we would get 70 hung on us??

If they had given the ball to 23 more they wouldve.  Everytime he touched the ball he gained chunks.

But MJ also played their best game in years. Thier best game since Semifinal in Whitehaven.

Maybe last week vs CR they were trying not to show too much on film to ravenwood? 

 

Either way,an Autowin vs that team I cant even name this next week for sure. And if they play like they did friday night(actually inspired and not turning it over 200 times) then they are pretty good the rest of the season. But thats a big if.

Would be surprised if they didnt put up at least 50 on mj, maybe they'll stop at 35 out of respect.

 

Last week MJ looked like they didnt even want to be there. If they have that same 'meh' feeling from the sideline,im expecting at least 70 points from ravenwood.

Yeah as of now, Hendersonville & Blackman are automatic losses for y'all. But only 3 years ago, MJ was leap years better than both of those teams. Times change good & bad.

Id argue that wasnt the case. In the 2012 season,MJ was lucky to escape Hendersonville with a Win,winning on a last second touchdown. That hendersonville team was like 3-7,4-6?

 

in 2011 ,they dismantled a lowly Hendy,but thats about the only time in recent memory.

 

Id say the only year MJ was realllly really good,just rolling through everyone,was 2011. And even then,they BARELY(as in one yard from losing to a 5-6 win siegel team) got past  those 7AAA teams that you say they were ,'leap years' ahead of during the playoffs.The only truly good team they "rolled" in 2011,was Brentwood and Beech..

 

and in 2012,they simply were not leap years ahead. If they had to run the 7AAA quad again, Siegel,blackman,etc,not so sure theyd go to the semis again. They got a favourable quad that year and did a good job making it ot the semi's with it. 

You thought they were "decent" enough to beat the ridges & Gallatin's of the world? Just thought id let you know that this makes 3 years in a row that Gallatin has beat MJ, plus the overall record is HEAVILY in GHS favor. Gallatin beating MJ is no surprise.

No offense meant by that.

 

Those are "winnable" games. Past 2 years MJ has had to deal with blackman,cent,hendy,etc,which are basically autolosses.

 

Gallatin,beech,Cane ridge,Gallatin,wilson central...those are games they have a chance in,games they should win if they arent inferior. Thats what I meant by that. No disrespect towards gallatin. Apologies.