msgvols1

Columbia had the exact same thing happen to them and the exact same result happened. The runner on first scored. Both umpires talked it over and that was the result. They lost that game also because of that play. So maybe you are 100% wrong in saying it is not right. So if that rule is so black and white why has it cost 2 teams a game.

I do agree with what you are saying but you need to read further in that rule. The next line states that if all runners, including the batter-runner, have advanced at least one base when an infielder makes a wild throw on the first play after the pitch, the award shall be governed by the position of the runners when the wild throw was made. The thing we are discussing all boils down to the umpires judgement on when the throw happens. This obviously does not make this 100% wrong when it is a judgement call. It is at least a 50% chance it is right because it is a judgement call that is in the rule book.

So we do agree it is a 2 base error. So I will assume if the batter has occupied 1st before the ball goes out of play that would put him on 3rd base if it is a 2 base error. It is under the umpires judgement whether he has occupied the bag or not. I have also saw the exact same thing happen and the exact same result happened. There must be 2 umpires and myself that can not read the rule book correctly. So therefore that is not 100% wrong.

If the runner that was on first got to second before the ball went out of play then he is awarded home. It is a 2 base error when the ball went out of play.