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32 minutes ago, JSamson7 said:
If McDaniel didn't tech Kodiak Cannedy 2 seasons ago, he ain't teching Braden Ivy this season. I know how good McDaniel is, I coached against him as a middle schooler and it appears you're sleeping heavily on Ivy. Ivy placed 2nd last year at Super 32 and outside of Ashton Davis he was the best P4P middle school wrestler last year in TN.
Don't think because he's in Morristown that he's lacking quality partners or coaches either. Ivy travels as much or more than most kids in the state and for anyone to think any kid in TN is going to tech fall him doesn't have a clue.
Key word, "MIDDLE SCHOOL" and you make my point even stronger. Two years ago or even last year McDaniel would not tech Ivy, but McDaniel has one high school season under his belt wrestling some very good wrestlers. Yes, Ivy travels and sees good competition but he is still wrestling on the Middle School level. McDaniel just took 2 AA from Fargo against High School wrestlers. When Ivy places at Super 32 in high school I will be impressed. And this is not a dig at Ivy, I believe he is a great wrestler, my point is that placing in Super 32 Middle School is not comparable to the HS tournament. You cannot extrapolate that a S32 MS placer will be a HS placer. I think Ivy will do well, again I believe he is a great wrestler, just not on the level of McDaniel.
I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news here, but being in Morristown is a handicap to a wrestler like Ivy. He absolutely does not have the same quality partners that some in other areas do. Morristown might get there but when was the last time they had a state medalist? And I get that he has traveled all over as a middle school and youth wrestler, but once the high school season starts, he will only wrestle his school's schedule. I have no idea what type of schedule Morristown (I'm not even sure which Morristown school he is attending) wrestles but I hope to see them at some big tournaments so we can all see how this shakes out.
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3 hours ago, JSamson7 said:
No way in blue hades is McDaniel tech falling Ivy. I'm not a gambler, but I'd be tempted put up a full month's salary that Ivy wins 106 this year.
Ha!!! I would take that bet all day long. We are talking about the same Fargo All American McDaniel, correct?
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2 hours ago, durdon said:
No koolaid here and we don’t have to wait till the end of the season either. Let’s just look at last year...
Trey Bates – 1st 106 Big school
Trae McDaniel – 2nd 106 Big School
Hunter Borders – 1st 113 Big School
Daniel Uhorchuk – 1st 106 Small School
Trevor Lewis – 2nd 113 small school
Riley Bennett – 2nd 126 small school
Wyatt McLemore – 2nd 132 small school
Joseph Skidmore – 2nd 152 Small School
Christian Morris – 1st 106 Private
Dyane Dalrymple – 2nd 106 Private
Emory Taylor – 1st 113 Private
Cody Chittum – 120 Private
Alex Whitworth – 1st 126 Private
Evan Anthony – 2nd 126 Private
Cooper Flynn -1st 106 in MarylandSo 14 rising HS freshman and 8th graders made the finals.
From last year's group, 5 of the 14 were runner up in small school and like it or not, being a state finalist in Tennessee small school does not make you a national contender. 7 others placed in their respective divisions at 106 & 113. Many of the upcoming freshmen you spoke about in your original post will be 126 and above. This makes a huge difference. When you enter the middle and upper weights, you begin wrestling young men and are no longer dealing with pre-pubescent highly technical wrestlers. Some of these freshmen with high level talent WILL lose to less talented wrestlers due to strength, maturity, and psychological factors. And I stand by my statement that some will stagnate due to the level of competition in their high school room.
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1 hour ago, YOUTHCOACH16 said:
Ive been involved with youth wrestling for a long time and I find the opposite to be true. There are always late bloomers or new comers who make an impact on the high school scene but its been my experience that the extremely talented and accomplished middle school kids continue to do so. These kids and parents have vested a lot of time over the years and the ones that have risen to he top have done so because they love the sport and that usually doesn't change when they get to high school. To be honest the kids that have traveled the middle school national circuit have wrestled tougher competition than they will in their Tssaa state tournament unless they come in at one of the middle weights or higher. The Aau state tournament has upwards of 1000 kids , 14 mats , no public / private split or classification. Its 140+ teams battling it out for 1 single champion. These kids aren't going to feel any undue pressure in my opinion as they are used to it. You can go back and look at the Aau middle school Team Tennessee from years past and those same kids are the ones winning multiple titles in high school for the most part
You are missing my point. It is not about the wrestler or their talent level, its about the team, coach, and room they are stepping into. In youth they have the ability to travel and choose all of the above, once you enter a high school room, those options are severely limited for the most part. For example, I agree that Sammy is top level talent but, with all due respect, Rossview has not proven to me yet that they can foster a freshman State Champion. Especially if he is at 120 or higher. There are so many factors that go into a championship that are out of ones control in the high school room. The quality of your practice partner is one of those variables that an individual cannot control. Maybe Shires will have a room full of studs to push him to the limit each day but if so, I haven't seen them around Rossview. Another example is Braden Ivey. I have only watched this kid a few times, but he is very good. Unfortunately he is stepping into a room (assuming he is at Jefferson Co?) that absolutely does not have the talent to push him to be better. He and McDaniel were very close a few years ago, my money now says McDaniel techs him. And McDaniel is only going to grow further and faster while kids like Ivy, at no fault of their own, will stagnate in a non-competitive room. Rooms like those at Beech where Noah had Palmer and Bates had Noah and they all had each other to push them to be better each day, those are the programs that can foster a freshman state champ. That being said, if it can be done, 106 and 113 are the best opportunities.
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On 8/18/2018 at 7:17 AM, durdon said:
Historically, this would be true but not with these freshman that are coming up this year. Theses are not kids that been just wrestling and winning here in TNAAU league but kids that have been traveling and winning out on the National Middle School circuit which is now crazy hard and competitive. These kids are all ready for TSSAA and everyone of them will be on the podium And most will make the finals. Last year we had a handful of TN kids who had been on the national circuit and everyone made podium and most won it. This is our first big group and they are going to shake up the state tournament this year.
Bond, Mcafee and Roller will all be on the podium with Darylrimple at 106 in private school and this will make the 106 weight in private school the most competitive it has been in years for any division.
Ivey will meet Mcdaniel in big school state finals at 106 and that will be a match to watch as it will be 2 of the best 106’s that we have ever had in big school state finals.
Uhrochuk’s little brother should win 106 small school easy even though he will be way undersized.
I left Easton off my list by mistake but if he makes 113 he will meet Bates in the state private school finals and that will be a match to watch.
If Shires makes 113 for big school he will win it. If not he will make the podium at 120.
Mike said both of the Payne’s are not wrestling this year but both would be on the podium in private school if they were.
All 3 of Pigeon Forges incoming freshman, josh Parton(who I left off by mistake) Foreman and Dalon will most likely win state in small school this year and both Forman and Dalon are at middleweights but they are that good.
The younger Bowers will make the podium at 26.
I left Dendy off my list too which was a major oversight but Garrison will be in the mix at 38 in Private School. He has a chance to win it as a freshman.
The other two kids to watch are Ashton Davis and David Harper. They are the 2 most accomplished freshman big men probably ever in TN history but their weights are extremely difficult for freshman. If Davis cracks the Cleveland lineup he will make the podium and Harper has a shot by the end of the year to make the finals.
Several talented kids here but I think Durdon is chugging the Kool Aid. There have been many talented wrestlers come out of middle school and as CBG stated, circumstances dictated less success. Some of these young men will be very successful but I think you are setting some up for premature failure with unrealistic expectations and hype. Time will tell. Please save this post and revisit in February.
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2 minutes ago, cbg said:
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The real point is that Tennessee already has enough coaches and parents putting together teams to benefit themselves. What Tennessee needs is those individuals to coach the teams that do not have any kids involved and are merely coaching to help whatever kids are on the team. You have some parents coaching in youth wrestling that have never put on a pair of shoes at the high school level much less a quality college team and people are convinced they know what they are doing. With the "Daddy Ball" parents, 99.9% will be gone the minute their child walks across the graduation line. The problem is that another group will be right behind them wanting to take their place. It's a vicious cycle that seems to never end.
We agree on this. My last sentence was intended as sarcasm to make this point. There should be a better system for selecting both wrestlers and coaches for the National teams.
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16 hours ago, cobrakid8 said:
Kills me when someone like King Greene who I have never even met tries to do something good and instead gets crap the entire time while loudmouths with supposed credentials(who cares!) badmouths them, instead of doing it themselves, had he same problem with my sons soccer and instead of whine on message boards I went and got my soccer licenses and coach myself, no more daddy ball and I also make no decisions at all on what kids are on my team I coach and instead of whining about a problem I went out to solve it instead! And for this, my son isn’t even on my team this year, instead he is a level better and playing for another team!
Again you make the point that started the whole conversation. Kudos to you for coaching soccer, we need more soccer coaches. And you prove my argument--"you made no decisions at all on what kids are on the team." Unfortunately, this is not what happened with our National Teams! King Green chose the team and ended up putting several of his own wrestlers on the team. Daddy ball in it essence. I'm certain many other coaches in the state would jump at the opportunity to coach the National team if they knew it meant a golden ticket for several of their wrestlers.
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3 hours ago, cbg said:
I didn't miss any mark on anything and at my age I have watched this happen numerous times. The only reason that "DADDY BALL" happens in any sport including wrestling is because various coaches and parents allow it to happen. This is not just a problem with athletics but it is a problem with today's society as we have so many helicopter parents and people that refuse to donate their time without knowing what is in it for them. In closing I will say that if someone is ask to do a job, even a volunteer job (select and team and take them to a national tournament) and you don't feel as if there is not enough time to do the job properly or you are not qualified then decline to take the assignment. If you take a job then do it the right way and don't make excuses for your actions after someone calls you on the carpet. With all of that being said I will say that I would have never scheduled a tournament or event on Easter weekend as that is just asking for issues.
You nailed it CBG. This is a problem in all sports including wrestling in Tennessee. Those who fail to recognize it have their heads in the sand, either because they don't want to believe it (as it seems with Corbra) or because it conveniently suits their needs (as it seems with Norse). Will calling them out on CoachT fix it, probably not but if enough people are aware then maybe we can move in the right direction to change.
And don't give me the line about last minute, not enough time, etc. etc. They had more than ample time to make phone calls and ask the most deserving wrestlers. If they received a decline and had to take their own team by default, then so be it, but I know for a fact this is not the case.
As for volunteering to coach. If you believe there is an open invitation by Tennessee AAU for anyone who wants to help, then you have had your head in the sand much longer than I thought. If you haven't noticed, TN AAU is a very tight knit fraternity and just because someone, as you suggest, is willing to volunteer to coach does not mean they are open to allowing it.
1 hour ago, Norseman said:Now to address your “deserving “ comments. Yes some kids may have had a a state medal, but just maybe someone had one good day when another guy may have been off just a bit on that particular day. It’s funny that this is even an issue. Maybe you are the one who has their feelings hurt cause your little Johnny didn’t get to go.
Maybe I did have a kid on the team maybe I didn’t.
I don't know you or your son but it is obvious you have a wrestler on the team and I get the feeling you are taking offense because you are inferring that someone believes maybe your kid specifically wasn't deserving. Lets be clear--I'm not bashing your kid. I wasn't talking about one wrestler in particular and moreover, I didn't say anyone was undeserving. I said there are wrestlers who had earned the right and were MORE deserving than some chosen. But you strengthen your message even more with your foolish comment about someone having a good day. HAHAHAHA! So is this your message? The wrestlers that earned a state medal must have gotten lucky at the state tournament and the non-medalist "may have just been off a bit on that particular day"? I see now, the whole NorseFlake ideal that everyone deserves to participate regardless of their results. You keep sticking your own foot in your mouth, maybe its time you power down the computer and let the adults have a conversation.
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9 hours ago, Norseman said:
Again opinions are like buttholes. We all know the rest of the story. I’m pretty certain none of us were around when these teams were put together. I honestly could care less who was or was not on this team. I was just pointing out the fact that these guys who volunteered their time should not be called out because they didn’t pick the most popular kid in the room. Seriously how many of you were asked to coach this team? Maybe there is a reason for that. If it bothers you this bad step up and make an actual difference vs whining on some forum and calling out those who volunteer their time. Also, you’re telling me the kids who went didn’t feel they “deserved “ to represent the state? I honestly don’t know why I’m wasting my time debating with people who know everything about everything.
Norseflake, I hope you are not a defense lawyer because you would have several clients in jail. You are basically confirming everything we are saying about how the team was chosen. NO, we were not around when the teams were put together. My point exactly. No one is berating the coaches for not putting in their time and effort, we all appreciate the fact that coaches are volunteering. But just as you say, none of us were asked to coach the team. The issue lies with the fact that not having a coach on the team should not eliminate a wrestler from consideration for the team. I don't think any of the wrestlers on the team felt that they didn't deserve to be there, those who felt slighted were the ones who had beaten others on the team or finished ahead of them at region/state and are sitting home because they didn't get a chance to wrestle-off for the spot. If logistics wouldn't allow for a wrestle-off (which is an invalid excuse, wrestlers would have made the trip, if there is one thing wrestling parents don't mind its a road trip for wrestling) but lets just say it wasn't possible, at the very least, an email to all the coaches in the state could have been drafted to determine interest. At that point go from top down. Medalists get first right of refusal. It is pretty simple. Or, there are only 14 weight classes, beginning with the top placing freshmen/sophomores, it might have taken 25 phone calls/text messages to get the MOST deserving wrestlers on the team. And yes I said it! There were wrestlers who were MORE deserving who were not given the opportunity.
Its obvious that your son was chosen for the team and very peculiar that you are so quick to defend the selection method. Lets assume your son is one of the medalists who was the top freshman/sophomore in his weight class, if he was left at home would you be on here defending the selection method?
I hope that my non-inclusive statements do not force you to your safe place.
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On 4/1/2018 at 4:21 PM, Norseman said:
Some are more “deserving “ than the kids that went? Two kids were called by name in a previous post, not to mention other threads. I didn’t say you called them out personally Purple Wrestler. I completely understand where you guys are coming from, I honestly do. Just don’t get why anything was said to begin with. Just get behind the team from the get go. Most will not travel to middle TN for one maybe two matches for a what if trip to Iowa. Just step back and look at what’s been said from the other side of the fence if you are able to do so with no bias. It’s never going to be a perfect system no matter how you look at it. It’s sad that you can’t get on here and have discussion without all the negativity.
I wasn't the one who named anyone specifically but I 100% agree that there were wrestlers who were left off the team, that were never asked to participate, who finished higher at state than others who were on the team. Does that make anyone not deserving to be on the team, no BUT it was a disservice to those who were left off! Call it semantics or whatever you please, but if it hurts your feelings by saying someone who finished ahead of another in the state tournament is more deserving, then maybe you need to get out of your snowflake bubble. If I finish with a state medal and you do not, then I DESERVE to be offered the spot before you do. Sorry if you feel that is negative but that's just the facts bro.
I think it is great that all our National teams had success in Iowa, but again I MUST be left to wonder what might have been IF we had given ourselves the best opportunity to win with the best available wrestlers.
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5 hours ago, PatCoach09 said:
Your entitled to your opinion however, the two kids I have on the team as alternates, were asked to be alternates before I was asked to step up and coach. They were asked, then I was asked about 4 to 5 days later. So i you want to say I got on through the “daddy ball” method that’s fine. But to give you an update we are 3-0 currently.
Cool story bro...timeline seems a bit off given there "was a very short window," but ok.
5 hours ago, Norseman said:So what makes someone more “deserving” than someone else? Considering the coaches had a very short window to put a team together I would dare say this is a pretty solid lineup. For some reason I have the feeling some would be upset regardless of who was on the team or how it was put together. Absolutely zero reason to name any child by name. The powers that be picked the coaches who they felt could put a team together and quickly. Most would agree that this team is not what some of you personally wanted so you are now personally attacking the coaches who are giving their time and bad mouthing kids. This is high school wrestling for goodness sake! Offseason at that. Get a life, a job or find a different hobby vs constantly putting yourself on your high horse! Seriously, where are you putting in time and dedication to these kids vs giving your opinion? Obviously no one cares what you have to say on the subject. If you had any relevance someone would have asked you to coach or what your thoughts were. Opinions are like buttholes, some stink worse than others! Btw both teams are 3-0 this far!
What would I say makes one more deserving? How about the fact that there are wrestlers on the team who lost to others who are not on the team. Wrestlers who were more than willing to represent TN given the opportunity. Not my kids but seems I have touched a nerve by speaking truth.
As for the team's success, I'm very happy to see both teams successful but one can only wonder if we could have pulled off a win against Iowa if the best available wrestlers were on the team.
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On 3/20/2018 at 9:42 PM, PatCoach09 said:
I think KG did a great job putting this team together on such short notice. I can tell you that is was certainly short notice, as I was contacted to make this trip as well and will be going. I think it’s a great opportunity for the kids that are going, and I know we are all excited about going. I am also looking forward to being around kids that I haven’t met yet.
PatCoach - When I saw you defending your fellow coach and his team selection method I originally thought you were just being nice, but NOW that the full lineup is available on Track, I see exactly why you were doing so. You also have kids on the team that were obviously selected using the daddy ball method. Good for your team's kids that were "selected" because you are coach and too bad for other wrestlers who might have been more deserving from a results standpoint but don't have a coach in the AAU preferred circle. Another hard lesson taught by wrestling: life is not fair and not everyone gets the same opportunity, many times its all about who you know.
I'm sure no one from TN AAU or the coaching staff will respond because I'm certain they cannot offer a valid explanation why this team was assembled in the manner it was. And that's fine, I just hope everyone gets to see an example of how wrestling in Tennessee works. It appears this is just the way it is done, the Jr/Sr team is somewhat better but there are kids who were left out to put coaches' kids on the team there as well. But really, we shouldn't be surprised, this is after all, a Tennessee AAU based team and TN AAU has always operated as if the state stops at Nashville.
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On 3/20/2018 at 6:24 PM, PurpleWrestler said:
Not true, not even close. The D2 kids were not asked. Or not the ones that I know. Maybe some of the middle TN D2 kids were (based on Durdon's post)
Bottom line, the communication around and assembly method of this team was bad. There is a statewide coaches email list that could have been used to get the word out to everyone to allow the opportunity for those most deserving the opportunity to participate. There are some very good wrestlers on our team but also appears some that were placed on the team because of the selection process. Nothing against KG but I feel like since it was his responsibility and opportunity to represent the state by coaching this team then the issue is his to own. Hopefully we can learn from this and in the future our National Team coaches will do a better job putting together a more representative team to include the whole state and not just the eastern half.
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I'm not mocking you KG and I'm sorry that your feelings are hurt but sometimes truth stings. Nothing said in my message was untrue. I've personally talked to 5 coaches from Regions 7 & 8 and have heard secondhand from a few others that NONE of them were ever contacted about this opportunity. I think it is a great opportunity for those who were chosen to go on the trip and never did I say any of them were unworthy. I DID however, say that there are others who, given the opportunity, might have earned a spot on the team but your method of selecting the team deprived other well deserving wrestlers an opportunity.
Is it coincidence that the two organizers of the team have almost half of the represented wrestlers?
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1 hour ago, cbg said:
So what's your point? This has happened before and I would suspect that it will happen again. There must not be any D2 kids that wanted to participate or they were just not good enough to be selected.
Are you serious? Point being that the best freshmen and sophomores in the state should have had the opportunity to participate or AT LEAST the opportunity to wrestle off for a spot rather than a few coaches hand picking a team based on who is on their team or their buddy's team. If this was a privately supported team like Higher Calling has sent in the past then choose who you want but I'm pretty sure this is a TN AAU sponsored team and should be representative of the entire state.
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I'm a bit confused as to why the wrestle offs are cancelled and a team representing the state was hand picked instead. All coaches do not monitor CoachT and there are several I've spoken with who had wrestlers (that finished ahead of some on the team) that would have been willing to make the trip but had no idea wrestle offs were being cancelled and the DADDY BALL METHOD of choosing a team was taking precedence. Six wrestlers from WC/SH and no one from West Tennessee, something seems amiss.
I'm not sure who made it, but this seems like a very very poor decision.
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9 minutes ago, Bump11 said:
The call was confirmed and the fans were yelling telling him not to leave at all. He did end up leaving but it was after the call had been confirmed and the ref had left the mat
The coach was asked to stay on the mat as the official went to the head table. Once Mike Parker came back to the mat and told the decision was final, the coach left the mat. I don't think the head coach did anything wrong, he stated his case for his kid. The fans and the assistant coach, on the other hand, were out of control.
Cleveland has a great group of above average wrestlers who win the majority of their matches but they do not currently have any Chris Debiens. Their consistency wins. No one has the level of consistency top to bottom and until that is found, no one will challenge. Beech seems to be getting there quickly by scoring tons of points with a few studs. I'm not sure any of their top points scorers graduate this year (I know Rippy graduates but he only scored 15 by forfeiting out). If Beech can fill in the uppers with a few top 6 wrestlers they will be contending.
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1 minute ago, FargoStrut said:
I'm def not saying Region 7 is the toughest region to qualify for bc it has the most wrestlers. I know that depends on the level of competition for each weight class in that region. However, what I am saying is that it would be much easier to qualify for JUST ABOUT ANY, IF NOT ALL weight classes in region 2 as opposed to any of the other 7 regions.
Touche!
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Just now, FargoStrut said:
Yes, I agree that the Reg 4 145LB bracket had 4 very good wrestlers in it. Was just pointing out the fact that one region only had 13 kids in the entire tournament who didn't qualify for the state tournament in ALL 14 WEIGHT CLASSES COMBINED.
I agree that Region 2 needs to be revamped. It seems there are some very good wrestlers out that way but some have no business in Franklin. And before you jump on me, Region 8 also has some very weak weights-it appears we will send some kids to state with losing records. The whole state could benefit from a region reshuffle.
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2 minutes ago, goblue1 said:
Region 7 had a decent amount of guys that would have been top seeds not wrestle to do injuries and other reasons the week leading up to tournament. We also let track wrestling seed the tournament and then make small changes if necessary. We have done that the past few years and about 80 percent of kids seeded place. It is pretty hard to seed a tournament with 16 guys in most classes without spending 6 hours arguing. When you have a 7th or 8th seed place it makes for an exciting finish and gives all the guys not seeded top 4 a chance. When you have bigger brackets anything can happen
I'm not arguing your seeding method MyBoyBlue. I was just using your Region as an example since it was the largest and Fargo was saying a region with more wrestlers would be tougher to advance through to state. My point is when a 7 seed places 3rd it is probably not the toughest region to advance through, even if it is the largest.
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3 minutes ago, FargoStrut said:
Did some looking into which regions were toughest to come out of and added up all the wrestlers in each region who DID NOT advance to the State Tournament. My math may be a little off but it's pretty dang close. Please feel free to double check me and see what you come up with.
Region 1- 44 wrestlers didn't advance
Region 2- 13 ( yes, ONLY 13 wrestlers didn't qualify for the State Tournament in all 14 weight classes put together)!!! That's (5) 4 man brackets where everyone advanced and there were (6) 5 man brackets where all but 1 qualified. 7 man bracket at 195 was deepest bracket.
Region 3- 29 wrestlers didn't qualify for the state tournament.
Region 4- 39 wrestlers from here didn't advance past their region tournament.
Region 5- 89 wrestlers didn't advance past regions.
Region 6- 83 wrestlers didn't make it to state from this region.
Region 7- 118 kids wrestled their last match of the season at this region tournament. I knew this region would have alot, but honestly DID NOT expect it to be almost 30 more than the next closest region.
Region 8- 42 kids did not advance to the State Tournament from this region.
P.S.- Some unhappy assistant or Head Coach who doesn't like his administration NEEDS to start a wrestling program at Oak Ridge HS today!!! I PROMISE that you will be COMPETITVE TOMORROW with all the athletes walking the halls there, even if you end up in Region 3, and especially if you can get into Region 2!!!!
This is a very interesting analysis but more numbers don't necessarily mean harder competition and therefore toughest to come out of. Without studying all the 145 brackets for every region, I would say Region 4 was the toughest. Region 4 only had 6 wrestlers but the chances of a 5 or 6 seed coming out of this regions was very slim. Region 7 had 16 wrestlers but a 7th seeded wrestler placed 3rd.
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145 - 6 returning medalist
120, 126, 132, 138, 195, 285 - 5 returning medalists
220 - 4 returning medalists
170, 182 - 3 returning medalists
113, 152 - 2 returning medalists
160 - 1 returning medalist
106 - 0 returning
My best guess is 145 will be the toughest to place given the number of returning medalists and the layout of the bracket.
106 as would be expected has the fewest returning.
160 is VERY weak. I'm not sure why but 160 cleared out in January. I can see at least 3 wrestlers at 152 not including Rippy or Graham moving up to 160 and being finalists.
I can see the tournament's outstanding wrestler award coming from 126, 132, or 145.
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How would you all suggest they seed the tournament if not by using Region results? Maybe the "rankings' you are using to base your argument are invalid - 4 of the top 6 in pin-tn did not even win their own Region, yet they are top 6 in the State?
Harrison Phillips, a returning medalist AND Region Champ will most likely see the winner of Wilson/James in the quarters. There are 4 returning medalists in the bottom of the bracket and only 2 up top. How would you spread it out?
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17 hours ago, Sommers said:
Put on the stripes.... I have and now totally respect those that stay in shape, gets in position to make the right call, and is always on top of the rules.
Kudos to all that do that
Soms
Stay in shape and get in position to make the right call? You obviously have not been to a match in a while! These are the two biggest complaints I hear about officials.
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HA! The officials in our state would revolt. They never make mistakes.