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Going to be interesting watching Chase Smalling (Science Hill, 126?), Mason Jakob (DB, 113?), and Titus Norman (DB, 120?, 126?) all wrestle.  All freshman and all capable of supplying some exciting matchups with most anyone in the state regardless of age.

Throw in sophomore Carson Dupill from Greeneville (120?,126?) and the potential local dual matchups in region 1 from 113 to 126 just got real interesting.  Hopefully we get those matchups in the regular season even if one or the other has to go up or down to make it happen (purely selfish wishing). 

Side note, I saw that Cleveland and Bradley Central matched up last week with the bulk of their starting lineups, good on them for taking those hard "opportunities" because most will not.

Yeah I meant too bad all in the same section.   Crockett lost their star in Hylton and a solid 160 but team wise they might actually be better as they have a  chance to fill the lineup. 

I was confusing Kendall with another kid.  That is a tough match for Colton.  Colton actually lost to Kendall last year as a freshman but Colton is physically much different now, much different.  Should be a fun one.

I'm betting on Pigeon Forge or the returning champs Signal Mountain.  PF should, on paper, be loaded.  Greeneville's big three in the middle didn't even get to wrestle at state duals last year and I could see the same thing happening again.  Kodiak has moved on to college so they lose an absolute automatic (and everyone at 170 can quit getting man-handled and breathe a sigh of relief). Greeneville will need to get it done this year as Hunter and Colin graduate and they are equally if not more irreplaceable.  Be interesting after this year to see how Greeneville fairs minus Kodiak, Hunter, and Colin.   Leaves Carson as the last wrestler to grace the national ranks.

It's too bad Halls, Gibbs, Crockett, and Greeneville all come out of region 1.  Greeneville is the obvious favorite.  Going to be a tough region though,

37 minutes ago, TotallynotLEO said:

Lol at you and me Oceansize. Your reply got me by a few seconds. 

What weight is the younger Ferrell kid at?

I think Whaley will start at 170 and work down as the season progresses.  He probably gave Logan Heckert his toughest match of the tournament last year. 

I watched the Greeneville kid wrestle at 195 in the preseason tournament at Bearden last weekend.  He may make some noise in 195 this year.  

Alcoa has a really good looking freshman at 195 too. He could make some noise in another year or two. 

The Stone Memorial 195 is solid too. 

So far 195 is looking to be pretty deep in small school. 

As far as I know nothing is set in stone at Crockett.  Colton can move up and down a weight class and so can Gabe.   They are fortunate to have the power to go up and the ability to lean down some.   Colton is a true sophomore but has come into his man body, good athlete now to.  I think he beats White and Kendall, who are currently ranked ahead of him, fairly easily.    

And I shouldn't forget Colton's fraternal twin brother Jake Ferrell at 132 or 138.  Jake beat DeLuca from Gibbs this preseason and was dominant outside the first 45 seconds.   

Briar looked good in preseason.  If he does go to 160 he is going to be a big kid there.  I was hoping to see Colton and Briar at that preseason tournament but didn't materialize.  Colton had zero practice as football had just ended so probably for the better.  

Max Norman and Briar wrestled, man Max is just an animal.  Briar is a big strong kid and he could only survive in the end.  Hunley looks good, matured a bunch.

Was it Lowery from Greeneville at 195?

1 hour ago, Hamm said:

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Maybe swap Gabe Ferrell and Hubbs. Gabe beat Hubbs twice last year.  First time by decision and second by pin.  Only reason Hubbs finished second at states is because Gabe was on the same side of the draw with Atwood.  He lost by decision in OT to Atwood which was far better than Hubbs did. 
 

Whaley is supposedly staying at 160 this year. 
 

Colton Ferrell will be a fun one to watch. 

34 minutes ago, Hamm said:

Totally my mistake.  I mistook Fowler's win over Sturgill as Fowler over Norman.  

Its been fixed.

You the man Hamm.  Sincerely... the kids love looking at this stuff. For many it makes their day/week/month to make the cut.

1 hour ago, cbg said:

It will all work it’s self out over the course of the season.  Will Logan and Max be at any tournaments or duals where they will have the opportunity to scrap

Maybe.   Max was a state champ at 145 last year, Fargo AA, multiple wins overly nationally ranked opponents at the elite 8 duals, national duals AA in Greco and freestyle, just won the King Open as a true sophomore, was ranked 16th on Flo in the month of September at 152, and is generally on an absolute tear.  Love Hamm and I know he can't watch all the kids on the far side of the state but Max has got to be number one until shown otherwise.  Seems like an easy one but I know stuff happens.

Logan Fowler ranked over Max Norman?  I love Hamm for the rankings but come on.....

For those of you who don't know UTC has been posting their dual and tournament matches on YouTube.  Nice they are doing this, hopefully they continue.   Check out Brayden Palmer, TN wrestler doing just fine.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzgqz63xBl3Wd2K-j9L1tgg/videos

5 hours ago, cowcatcher said:

Great job with these rankings! Any chance we get to see Colin Dupill v. "Mad" Max or Logan Hecker v. Omaury Alvarez this year? Better question, are there any tournaments that these teams will see each other at this year? I would drive anywhere in the state to see either of those matches.

 

Considering Max and Colin are 45 minutes apart from each other I hope so.  There could a dual with the other easy opportunities being the Brawl in the Hall in Bristol or the Indian Classic at DB.    A third possibility is the Ed Cressel.  Although Greeneville didn't attend the Indian or Cressel last year, probably went somewhere else.

I'd like to see a DB vs Greeneville dual.  I'll take the experience and age difference that Colin Dupill has over the now fully arrived Max Norman.   Perhaps they can meet at the Indian Classic this year as well.  Wouldn't be surprised if Colin goes 160 within Tennessee, of course Max might to.

Wrestling was the best choice my son ever made.  He was never great, just a good team wrestler who was lucky to have great training partners and a few good coaches, but what it taught him is forever burned into his character and it was all good.  I miss watching him horribly.  Wrestling benefits everything.

How tough (I'm only referencing the boys)?

We had four wrestlers who had a win over a seed.  Nobody beat two seeds.  

We had one wrestler reach the quarter finals.

We had one wrestler win six matches.  Two others won five.  Six others won four.  We had a total of 36 wrestlers for TN.

We only had a total of five wrestlers on the second day.  

Only one wrestler won a match on the second day. 

We had two really high level guys not present in Hunter and Colin Dupill and that would have helped our stats I think.  This tournament never disappoints.  It really is the best of the best in the style that matters most for college.

Cooper Hilton loses a tough match in the quarters to the 11 seed out of Florida.  He now gets the six seed Jayden Rainey in the consolation.  Cooper lost to Jordyn Rainey, his brother, at Fargo.  A chance to repay the favor I hope.

Bryson lost to the eighth seed out of California.  

Mason Jakob lost to the 16 seed  in his first match of the day.  Really good tournament for a freshman as he went 6-2 overall.

Leaves Brenot and Todd to wrestle.

Over all we have five wrestlers moving on to day 2:

Bryson Terrell: Consi-of-8 

Cooper Hilton: Quarter Finals  (Hilton edged Terrell in the round of 16 4-2)

Mason Jakob: Consi-of-8

Aiden Brenot Consi-of-8

Noah Todd Consi-of-8

Moving on to Day 2 for 138 and above:

Aiden Brenot Consi-of-8

Noah Todd Consi-of-8

Eliminated: 

Caleb Gumlick         

Landon Desselle                

Luke Belcher

Seth Robles

Hunter Sturgill  

Jay Eversole

Logan Fowler  

Riley Fort         

Maximus Norman    

Tate Myers 

Thomas Magness  

Briar Whaley  

Grayson Allen

Ian Mcgehee

Jacob Barlow  

Jake Stacey      

Henry Tate      

Kendrick Curtis

Rob Atwood  

Jackson Witsell

4 minutes ago, Mason422 said:

Don’t forget about Max Norman 

I was just listing the morning session as the afternoon just got started.  Max dominated his first opponent and is looking sharp.

Yeah that is terrible, my son wrestled Sealy last summer, did not go well lol.

Incredibly tough tournament and it is great to see all the TN kids wrestling.

The following are those still in the tournament from 132 and below:

Bryson Terrell: Consi-of-8 

Cooper Hilton: Quarter Finals  (Hilton edged Terrell in the round of 16 4-2)

Mason Jakob: Consi-of-8

Eliminated: 

Chase Walker

Joseph Uhorchuk

Caleb Uhorchuk

Cole Gumlick

Ethan Uhorchuk

Nathaniel Boge

Zac Bosken

Bentley Ellison

Jarvis Little

Ethan Lipsey

Samuel Huthinson

Looks as though Dayne may have a shot at starting next year, good news.   Hearst is in a tough spot at 157 with Heck and Wichman both in front of him and both sophomores.  149 is all sophomores and the starter seems solid. 

Any of the former Tennessee high school wrestlers (other than Palmer and Sell) have a chance of breaking into the line up?

Dayne Dalrymple  (141) Christian Brothers

Grant Lundy (149) Cleveland

Jackson Hearst  (157) Dobyns Bennett

Landon Lewis (174)  Soddy Daisy

Interestingly enough Flo only picked one Tennessee wrestler to medal and no it isn't Hilton.  Flo picked Max to finish eighth.  13 top 20 at 120, 11 top 20 at 152.

Flo's list of Tennessee wrestlers:

Name                Weight  Rank
Cooper Hilton       120     12
Max Norman          152     17
Joseph Uhorchuk     106     HM
Bryson Terrell      113     HM
Caleb Uhorchuk      120     HM
Ethan Uhorchuk      120     HM
Jarvis Little       126     HM
Landon Desselle     138     HM
Logan Fowler        138     HM
Luke Belcher        138     HM
Chase Walker        106
William Phillips    106
Mason Jakob         113
Bentley Ellison     120
Cole Gumlick        120
Nathaniel Boger     120
Zac Bosken          120
Spencer Reep        126
Ethan Lipsey        132
Samuel Hutchison    132
Caleb Gumlick       138
Jay Eversole        138
Seth Robles         138
Hunter Sturgill     145
Riley Fort          145
Tate Myers          152
Thomas Magness      152
briar whaley        160
Grayson Allen       160
Ian McGehee         160
Jacob Barlow        160
Aidan Brenot        170
Jake Stacey         170
Logan Heckert       170
Henry Tate          182
Kendrick Curtis     195
Rob Atwood          195
Noah Todd           220
Garrett Crowder     220
Jackson Witsell     285

How tough is this tournament and certain weight classes? According to flo, at 132 pounds the entire flo wrestling top 10 is registered except number 3.

Tough one.  Super 32 is a different animal compared to Fargo because it is folk style so those top guys that maybe aren't great in freestyle show no such weakness in this tournament.   Fargo allows more surprise medalists IMO.

Hilton is the easy one but even he is no guarantee.  

Norman is dark horse for sure.   

Mason Jakob taking the step up to the HS ranks so I'm not sure how he will do as a freshman.  

As far as who should have been seeded and wasn't, none that I can see.

Upvote for a great pre-season team tournament.  Made the trip over last year from east Tennessee, was fun, and there are matchups for all wresting abilities which is rare.  Great opportunity for the non-experienced to get some reps against their equals instead of simply getting beat up.