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1 minute ago, JohnnyLawrence said:

Nobody cares. 

Somebody asked. Probably the step-cousin of nobody

3 hours ago, orngnblk said:

I cant believe someone referenced 7 on 7.SMOnBH!!!

Since the 7v7 reference seems to have slipped over the heads of a couple of you folks, the point of that comment was that Oakland hasn't gotten to play BA except in scrimmages and 7v7. Someone had mentioned Oakland and BA playing in the regular season and that's what the reference was to. We've only played them in the above 2 settings since about 2006.

6 hours ago, JohnnyLawrence said:

Please don’t say that your team ever “beat” anybody in a 7v7 ever again. As long as you live. 

Lolol

Cant believe it took that long for someone to jump on that!! Lol

25 minutes ago, zoneread56 said:

Again you didn’t answer my questions bc you know they wouldn’t lol

Discussing anything with you is pointless because it’s never a discussion. 

Now you know my thoughts, too. Not just the winner of all of your Imaginary Football League games?

Need to change your screen name to Football Gypsy

1 minute ago, BCsportsfan said:

Brentwood Acad. would make a lot of coacht'ers HAPPY!

We've had preseason scrimmages with them for the past few seasons. Actually beat them in the semifinals of the Titans 7v7 this summer. I wish we could play some real foosball with them!!

1 minute ago, MidTennFootball said:

That still leaves Oakland with another game to find

Yes, sir. Not sure who that will be. Or I haven'e heard, anyway.

1 minute ago, Throwdeslant said:

I wish you could forward that to all the other sissy programs that continuously use that as an excuse. You just can’t make that stuff up...

Completely understand your pain!! Lol

Just now, Throwdeslant said:

Out of respect to my Greeneville buddies, I won’t respond. However, no 6A school wants to play a small 3A school because there’s nothing in it for them. If they win, they were supposed to win, but, if they lose, uh oh. Yada, yada, yada... How many times we heard that one before???

We don't exactly have folks knocking the door down to play us, either! Our coaches spend months trying to fill a schedule every 2 years, just like Rankin. We got bailed out this year because we added a new high school in Rutherford County and our region. Luckily, we added Germantown and Cordova already so we won't be searching, from what I've been told.

3 minutes ago, BCsportsfan said:

Look at that matchup the last couple of years. Very very tight games typically to the wire, even in the earlier matchup this year, THEN 38-0? Oakland did NOT get that much better in 10 weeks. 

I do think Alcoa would match up to Oakland's wing t offense better than Maryville. It would be a defensive battle for sure.  

The defense was at full strength for the first time ALL SEASON at the beginning of the playoffs so they actually DID improve a TON at that point.

I agree about an Alcoa/Oakland matchup. An absolute slobberknocker!!

3 minutes ago, Throwdeslant said:

He’s their BEST player, period. Hard to replace that kind of talent especially in the biggest game if the season on the road...With Hodge, I certainly don’t think Murvul gets shut out. It’s very difficult, almost impossible, to shut out a multi dimensional Murvul squad. Great season to Oakland tho. 

Agreed. Unbelievably physical. I love watching him run the ball, tbh.

8 minutes ago, Throwdeslant said:

The work excited was never mentioned. Big difference between that and relieved...

Lolol

He's definitely a big time player!

3 minutes ago, MidTennFootball said:

Not gonna dispute that, but it would have been a fatal mistake to underestimate Maryville bc of one injury. Injuries are a part of the game, Oakland has had their fair share of key players out for games against Maryville. You'll never hear me get excited about the injury to another player, and I doubt any Oakland folks on here would either

Agreed. I NEVER like to hear of other young men injured to the point of not playing. 

He is most definitely a baller! But we only beat them by 3 the year before without Hopkins!

Of course, lots of factors were different. Just saying that all teams have to get through injuries. Part of the game.

35 minutes ago, Throwdeslant said:

Murvul without Tee Hodge! Enough said!!!

They didn't cross the 50 all night. He's a great player, but not crossing the 50? Not sure his playing would've changed the outcome.

Oakland didn't play Murvul all 5 weeks of the postseason. I said they were playing their best football the last 5 weeks of the year.

Again, there are several teams who could make a case. 

4 minutes ago, 32hammer said:

I think Alcoa is the best team in the state this year, but Im biased. Greeneville,  Oakland, BA, etc could all make a valid argument. However, when you logically compare the teams,  one objective comparison stands out. Oakland lost to maryville on the rebs home field, Alcoa won that awesome, tough game at Maryville.  

No other undefeated team has that high of a quality win. 

IMO, that's a valid point in week 2 of the season. Oakland was missing several key players.

At the end of the season, I would disagree that Alcoa is better than Oakland. The Alcoa team I saw at the beginning of the season wasn't nearly the same team I saw when they played Maryville.

Oakland was playing it's most dominant football during the last 5 weeks.

Again, just my opinion. There are several good arguments for several teams.

1 hour ago, MidTennFootball said:

Acting like you have all the answers when you have no possible way of knowing how they would fare is just as foolish. But go ahead, keep on living in fantasy land. Both of those Oakland teams you just mentioned we're just as run heavy with a defense that didn't have nearly the kind of depth that 2018 did

MTF, you can't debate with a crystal ball!

You and I are WAY closer to Oakland football than he could even begin to comprehend and WE have no idea how those games would turn out. 

Pretty sure no one thought Oakland would blank Maryville or Whitehaven, either. 

No way to know what he claims to know.

I guess we're just fooling ourselves. Pretty sure he would've said the same thing if either of us had come on here saying Oakland wouldn't let Maryville or Whitehaven cross the 50 the entire game, too!!

3 hours ago, zoneread56 said:

Answer this then: would this yrs Oakland team have beat these recent 6A teams: 2012 maryville, Siegel, mount Juliet whitehaven

2013: Blackman, maryville, Oakland, whitehaven 

2014: ravenwood, Blackman, Oakland, Whitehaven, centennial, maryville  

The answer is no they couldn’t. If you say so you are fooling your self. There wasn’t one 6A team this year that could beat any one of those teams 

 

Again, using your opinion as fact and acting like all others couldn't possibly have a valid reason for believing otherwise.

Fact is, they didn't play those teams and there's no way to know the answer. I know you THINK you know, but you don't.

Hard to have any type of debate with someone who believes what they are saying is fact, when, in fact, it is opinion.

kwc, now that the game is over and it's been a few days, what is your honest take on Oakland, overall?

I think you tend to be genuine in your analysis and I would like to hear your take.

WH definitely had the players to play with Oakland. Those goal line stands made that pretty evident.

It seemed like, as a whole, WH didn't think Oakland would be as good as the 2016 version. 2016 Oakland had a couple of extreme athletes, but I think the 2018 version was a better team, overall. That's what I was trying to tell you last week when we were discussing what makes this team go.

I think WH really didn't expect Oakland to be as good as they were. It almost seemed as if they were shocked once the game got rolling and never could recover. I'm not even sure the coaches knew what to make of the situation. Losing 52 and 14 didn't help matters, obviously. 

From what I witnessed during the playoffs, there was nothing but focus from Oakland, even during warmups. Not even a little bit of chirping. Just focus.

I've never witnessed a playoff run like the one I saw this November.

42 minutes ago, kwc said:

OK guys ... zoneread is a D2 guy. To him, the top D2 teams are above and beyond any D1 team. 6A, 5A, or anything. I don't know which D2 program he supports but he's really big on BA and MBA. In his eyes no D1 programs can hold a candle to any of those programs. He's just bored and now he wants to expound his philosophy and extensive football acumen on you unsuspecting, unknowlegable D1 souls. You poor things ... you haven't really seen good football in D1. He doesn't even realize how patronizing he comes off at times, Honestly.

So ... y'all have fun with ole' zonie'. I'll just sit back and read and laugh.

KWC, you and DP1 just made the light bulb come on!! Lol. I was trying to figure out why he was so dead set on making us Oakland folk feel inferior about our Gold Ball! Crazy!

You guys will have a chance to show him a thing or two next fall!!!

1 hour ago, DillonPanthers1 said:

AAP he isnt biased against Oakland... Only teams who don't run 5 wide.. Running bubble to the trips with a jet/slant tag and a slant /wheel combo on the twins side, making his checks pre snap.  He can RPO to the jet or run a QB draw option because there are only 5 in the box.... And snapping the ball every 12 seconds... Because that is the end all be all offense now that wins and should be the only thing that works now... Other than that he's good!  

 

MOJO

Maybe you're right. 'MY way is the ONLY way' type of thinking.

1 hour ago, zoneread56 said:

lol man think what you want

Enjoyed the friendly banter, even agreeing to disagree. Lol

Good luck next season with whatever team you follow. 

On to basketball season!

5 hours ago, zoneread56 said:

i really do not have a bias against oakland lol i live in ruth co. oakland is a good team and should be happy they won. but if you are gonna sit here and tell me 6a was strong this yr then you are playing yourself. oakland has had several teams itself recently better than this yrs past team and they did not even win state. the reason you are defending oakland so hard is bc you are probably an oakland dad lol. the reason most people disagree with me is bc many folks do not get out and watch a lot of high level ball. you seem knowledgable but we are gonna have to agree to disagree

Your original argument was that Oakland would get thrashed by an up-tempo offense. Not one time did I ever say this team was one of the best ever or anything of that sort. My entire original point was that they beat the teams in front of them to win a championship. The ONLY reason I even responded to you was because you’re one of those ‘imaginary football league’ people who is trying to downplay what these guys accomplished by coming up with scenarios that you ‘think’ they couldn’t have won. Your arguments have changed several times throughout the course of this entire thread, but, originally, you were trying to get folks on here to agree that they couldn’t beat this team or that team, when they beat who they played en route to Cookeville. They DID dominate in the playoffs and if you want to say that’s because 6A was down, not because they are actually THAT good, then you’re correct. We will have to agree to disagree. Most folks don’t agree with your assessment. Saying that I don’t see the rest of the state play when you have NO IDEA who I am is pretty shortsighted. You would be shocked at how many 5A and 6A teams I’ve seen play in person or on film. Would be willing to wager that it’s a LOT more than you have. 

1 hour ago, zoneread56 said:

This defense was no where close to being one of best ever. Their 2016 defense was a lot better and played better teams. I don’t really wanna keep going back on forth on this board bc it’s mainly Oakland fans who have severe biases. I just call it as it is 

You call it ‘as your opinion’, not ‘as it is’. And your opinion is waaaaaaay off in several instances. 

Several non-Oakland folks here disagreeing with your ‘opinions’, as well. 

You have some type of ‘bias’ against this Oakland team would be a more accurate statement. 

31 minutes ago, zoneread56 said:

Would you agree though that 6A was the weakest it’s been in a long time?

Are you trying to get me to agree that Oakland won the State Championship because 6A was weak, not because they’re a good football team??

I completely disagree with that! Nobody else completely handled Whitehaven or Maryville like they did the past 2 weeks. 

I think, as in all years in high school football, it’s top heavy. As in the top 10-12 teams are better than all the others. Some years, those 10-12 are pretty equal. Other years, you get what happened the past couple of weeks. 

Definitely, just my opinion. 

7 minutes ago, zoneread56 said:

Ok man yeah you right I haven’t seen every single Oakland game in the last 10 yrs or whatever. But look every time I have seen them they were primarily playing nickel with 1 high In a cover 3 or 1 look. Which is fine bc they have the dbs to get away with press. When Stevens was there Ik y’all pressed a lot and bright pressure 

The only point I’m trying to make in this discussion is that some type of spread or I or wing t offense, tempo or not, didn’t beat them. They gave up 8 or so points per game during the regular season and less than 4 per game during the playoffs. You kept coming up with these imaginary football games that they would lose, based on this personnel or that offensive scheme. Fact of the matter is that they played outstanding defense all season long, regardless of who we played. Just give the young men and the coaches their due without trying to figure out what they couldn’t do in the imaginary football league. 

16 minutes ago, zoneread56 said:

I mean that’s what any team does lol. But at the core they are a base 4-2-5 kind of team or a 5-2

Obviously. Your exact statement was that Oakland ‘literally plays only cover 3 and 1’. Most definitely incorrect. They also play 0, quarters, and 5.

As I said earlier, which you keep avoiding, you haven’t watched them play enough to make an educated statement of what they ‘only play’. It’s been different every single week.