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3 minutes ago, YoungBuck said:

What does hiring him or not have to do with it. You obviously have a problem with Speas yourself. No one expects a person to do what that coach did. The dumpster fire is more than the baseball coach. Take your personal stuff elsewhere 

Hey just reading the room. It says the problems at HVA didn't start in the last 6 months. I don't know him but the school board does. I get my info from Chanel 8.

36 minutes ago, SheriffofRedRock said:

I think so, but I am not 100% sure. Just look up the dates of the gas leak articles and the 5starpreps article of his hiring

He had a 100-48 record. That's probably 3 years or more. Don't keep up with baseball. More than likely Speas hired him. A lot of people trying to prop up Speas. A lot of coaches get out when the principal that hired them is no longer the principal. 

4 hours ago, SheriffofRedRock said:

This seems more true each day with all the news coming from the valley

Did Speas hire the BB Coach?

15 hours ago, Futbolfan2022 said:

Is it because of the beer market? Or is it because the coaching staff has a drinking problem? 

Well you have to fill up that free time doing something when you get off work at 4 and practice doesn't start till 6.

6 hours ago, FootballFan888 said:

Is Kevin Lane the one who bounced from West to Catholic after being overlooked for the West job twice when Cummings and then Harig left, only to crawl back after Catholic got rid of him? He was also overlooked for the Catholic job, but that makes sense because they got rid of him. 

Someone said he installs light fixtures now, but I am guessing at one time he was a teacher? I did see somewhere that he was mentioned for the Central job, but I would think there are MANY that are applying that are more qualified than him.

As for Abernathy, just look at what on during his time in the UT recruiting office under Jeremy Pruitt, that should be all you need to know about him. Per his bio on the UT website he was a youth coach then high school coach in the Nashville area then he goes to UT. Sounds to me like the typical "handler" scenario. Then, when all was found out, he bolts for Beerden, but is up to is old "handler" role there. 

 

Anyways, it sounds like they don't have a lot of coaches in the building at Beerden, which could definitely attribute to the lack of discipline that program is showing. I wonder how the influx of athletes has impacted the halls of the school and whether those players are adapting to the people and academic standards of West Knoxville. God knows the parents in West Knoxville will not allow academic standards to sag at all.

I saw what you did there Beerden. Very slick. Not many people understand what you are saying.

2 hours ago, oridgecat said:

One of the sides wants SS, I don't think the other side has it down to 1 candidate just yet, but the names that have been mentioned here are in the hunt and the mix.  

I have heard a bunch of names mentioned  on the T but that is all the names being considered? I have heard Stanton Stevens , Scott Cummings, Brad Taylor and Lee Warren applied for the job from reading this thread. There has to be more people applied?

1 hour ago, TrojanFullback27 said:

Seems like once Speas was pushed out, HVA has been a disaster

It was a mess while Speas was there and he was part of creating it and didn't get it straightened out so consequently his was put out.

20 hours ago, edwardblake said:

From my perch at West High,

We like to pay ours the going rate on Sutherland but then again we like winning gold balls and also like winning the first game of the year. My question for my Bearden High folks is why pay Abernathy, a glorified Starbucks employee for Jeremy Pruitt and Kevin Lane who is a solid assistant, over ten thousand dollars each per KCS to run the defense?

I’m not sure if Abernathy is still a barista but last I heard Kevin installs light fixtures. 

l thought Abernathy was the real DC. 

6 hours ago, dogbull495 said:

Just wanted to say I think Josh gets too much flak for his recruiting style. He's not just about building a team he's passionate about helping kids play where they'll shine. Sure people might not like how he goes about it but it's all about giving these kids great opportunities. And hey with the talent he's pulling in next season is looking super promising. Let's cut him some slack it’s only his second year after all! 

You ask for slack for someone. Makes no sense on the T. No slack given on the T. 

11 hours ago, gcapride said:

This will be #4 since 2006. The Rusty experiment lasted 4 years, this one went 3 stints. Rusty was an odd cat but he could coach. We’ll get a good one this time. Got a really solid AD in place and a Head of School that wants to win. Stay tuned, Boog. Hope you wine drankin’ Catholics on Vermont Ave  get back to winning too. 

You call Coach Bradley an odd cat, l say you and your GCA  past and present are odd cats. 

6 hours ago, MidTennFootball said:

Didn't say he was a good coach, just that this was the hire they always wanted, McMillan was just a stopgap. In Knox County, it's more about the talent you can attract

They had to try a Ex Fulton player. That's what they think was why they won in the past. They think Ex Fulton will win in the future. Only time will tell.

23 hours ago, atrisk said:

Yeah, seems Tennessee is moving toward the "agents/handlers" type management. IYF. WGD.

BHS leading the way with this. BHS is setting trends for the future. Cutting edge @DFL

45 minutes ago, Futbolfan2022 said:

Of course coaches would take advice from an NFL player, and it paid off on the field. Heck jones even got to eat dinner with Brian Daboll of the giants because of the connection. The problem is the round about way with no transparency to do it the violated policies at the state and county level. 

Brian Brown with KCS not really doing his job by letting this stuff happen at BHS.

40 minutes ago, Futbolfan2022 said:

So you’re in the know. Answer these questions, 1. Who coached the OL for Bearden last year? 2. Who started this season coaching the OL for Bearden? 3. Why did Crawford end up coaching both the RBs and OL by the end of the year? 

The guy that coached rec league and worked for the sheriff's office was one of the O-line coaches. A former Central player who also used to be an assistant at HVA and DC at Cocke Co was another O-line coach. A former BHS player was another O-line coach. The former DC from Cocke Co. left after one year. I heard he went to Fulton. I heard the former rec coach/sheriff office guy quit sometime this year. I don't know if the former BHS player is still coaching at BHS.

14 minutes ago, ILB1999 said:

wth kind of response it that?  

 

you repeat the same phrase with not even anecdotal proof.  Just because kids move to a school doesn't mean they were recruited. 

 

If I were a parent I'd want my good Baseball/Softball player to go Farragut or gibbs.  My good football player to Alcoa or west.

 

My good basketball player to Fulton or a private...

 

that doesn't mean they were recruited.  

What about the ones that don't move but change schools for athletics. I think it's more about those examples.

37 minutes ago, oridgecat said:

Just my opinion and I know some of these Bearden jock sniffers on here will get all butt hurt, but I just can't see what they're doing at Bearden being sustainable.  I don't think we will see this staff/team beat Bradley or Oakland while they're at Bearden.  And anybody chucking dirt on Murvil is a bit premature.  

I guess to know what a jock sniffer is, you have to be a jock sniffer first?

3 hours ago, Futbolfan2022 said:

You’re not counting the daddy/trainer that hangs around and possibly coaches and possibly doesn’t? Not to mention the 9-10 handlers that hang around on the track just off the sideline (so I guess you could technically say they’re not in the sideline). 

Those dudes on the track just off the sidelines are motivators,fixers,helpers and absolutely handlers. Only at BHS.

3 hours ago, DBKPT93 said:

I heard Gruden is interested in returning to Knoxville since he wasn't given a shot with the Vols

I really thought Gruden wanted the BHS job but the boosters/parents chose Coach Jones.

5 hours ago, UpperCumberlandMan said:

This game between Upperman and Pearl Cohn reminds me of 2005. In 2005, Livingston Academy had finished the season 5-5 losing 4 games by a total of like 15 points. They slipped in the playoffs. Made a magical run to make the state championship. They were told David Lipscomb was to good. They were told David Lipscomp had better athletes. They were told David Lipscomp had played better teams.  But something about that Hogeye team was special. Like it was destiny. I get that feel with Upperman. Sometimes, I think it's your time. Maybe it's just me, and none of that destiny stuff matters. But I am old school, and I think it just might matter. 

I remember Livingston Academy that year. LA had a player at QB that also played Safety. I thought he was the difference in the championship game vs Lipscomb. I think Livingston ran the option and there QB made a lot of good reads to make their offense go. He also was a very physical player on defense. If you didn't get him blocked, he was going to hit you. You really don't see that combination much anymore. An option QB who played both ways.

3 hours ago, Swipes said:

You made it sound like you had to drive past Bearden to get to West in certain areas of the West Zone.  I could say there are areas of the Bearden Zone that you can actually drive past Farragut to get to Bearden and those kids live closer to Farragut than Bearden too

I thought you were talking about the West zone, not the Farragut zone.

1 hour ago, Swipes said:

I agree it goes farther than the Bearden Hill Area (More like all the way to the West Side of Rocky Hill and cuts off at Whittington Creek and South of Parts of Westland).  I would't say the easiest way to get to West High School  for kids zoned for West is driving past Bearden High no matter how for west they live in that zone. (I'm taking Northshore or Westland and cutting over).

I wasn't commenting on how to get to West High School.

8 hours ago, SheriffofRedRock said:

I would agree with that. It was a biggerish gap from cummings to brown, but they both had success. The zone for West has a great mix of kids. West lonsdale all the way to Bearden hill area. This is why they will always be good unless the zoning map changes. You bring in a few kids here and there then you have a great team.

What do you mean the Bearden Hill area. West zone goes way past that. You can actually drive past BHS on the way to West if you live/zoned in part of the West zone. A lot of not most West zone students live closer to BHS

4 hours ago, HTV said:

Then you aren't thinking very hard about it. 

Not a hard concept. 

Even for you. 

The only example l could think of was Bill Wilson at BHS in 2006. I think he was already retired from teaching and working at Central Office?

3 hours ago, JournalEntry said:

 

Now you’re changing the argument. We weren’t talking about administrators being head coaches. Administrators have professional teaching licenses that allow them to be head coaches. There is no written policy about admin not being allowed to coach, that’s an unspoken concept in central office.

The argument that was originally stated was that board policy doesn’t allow for the hiring of non faculty coaches when a licensed person has interviews and is qualified. I imagine Brad Taylor could have a bone to pick about the Bearden opening in Dec 2021 due to failure to follow board policy.

You are exactly right.

10 minutes ago, HTV said:

So, there haven't been "exceptions" that have allowed those who weren't previously eligible to be head coaches in "major" sports to do so over the last decade or so?  

Nope, not nonsense, but rather reality.  

Guidelines, not hard fast rules.  

Name the exceptions hired in a Major sport.