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16 hours ago, BoroFootball said:

Is this a job that  Tygard would want? He coached there before. When was the last time ND was good? I know they had decent run a while back. Was that a fluke or is that sustainable there? Just an outside that’s curious.

Surely not. Surely Cleveland is the place he will stay at for more than two years. If not, that has to be a HUGE red flag to administrators. 

On 1/18/2024 at 9:10 AM, SpottedGoat said:

It was about 1999 when then UT-Martin Chancellor Phillip Conn decided that the football program as a whole would be canceled at UTM due to the massive monetary drag it was on the university that was also in basic default itself. Near zero fan support or community involvement & a guaranteed losing season had became the norm; it was a business decision. A rather unpopular one, & it never came to fruition. (He was basically run out of town & hired at Knoxville) Today, UTM holds a fantastic team, community involvement & a very good overall program. Like it or not, Jason Simpson is the biggest reason for this. Somewhere in the mix, Westview playing home games in that stadium may have helped to save the football program at UTM as they could not build their own & filled that venue with more people on any given Friday night than the Skyhawks would all season put together at that time. It would be foolish beyond belief to think Westview is not a premium place to coach football. Athletes, community support, money, it's all there in piles. Any coach looking to coach at this school is going to have the next Simpson, play games on his fathers field at UTM while being under that microscope & have to balance one heck of  a rabid, political fan base. Westview simply didn't have the size in the trenches this year they are used to playing with. They lost arguably the best LB in their region prior to season & to me, that & more added up to the difference that cost Neal his job. 

Why did Neal get ran out? I'm on the outside here in middle TN, but he has a really good record there including a state championship. Did he get on the bad side of the wrong parent?

5 minutes ago, TheEaglesNest said:

He is not. I think his primary role is wrestling coach. 

LOL

46 minutes ago, TheEaglesNest said:

The one is the ADs good friend who has made the final two. Not sure if that is bc of friends of the program or if he can actually get the job done. 

Smells like the first one. I’m not for sure, but I don’t think he’s even the offense or defensive coordinator at Gallatin.

9 hours ago, TheEaglesNest said:

I’m hearing rumors of a possibly a coach from Gallatin or one from East Tennessee. Not sure the names but resource has stated it’s down between those two. You would think since they got an early start on the interview process they would’ve had someone by now. 

Heard the same thing. The current administration will probably go with the less qualified guy.

22 minutes ago, cbg said:

If the athletic program at Franklin High School were supported properly by the school board and administration they could have the best overall public school athletic program in Tennessee.  The problem with Franklin and most schools for that matter is that those individuals that make the hiring decisions rarely know how to hire a successful coach.  The students at Franklin are a mix of inner-city, blue collar, affluent, etc… so that all of the sports programs could be successful.  It would require that all of the coaches were not only on the same page but were willing to share each others athletes.

23 minutes ago, cbg said:

If the athletic program at Franklin High School were supported properly by the school board and administration they could have the best overall public school athletic program in Tennessee.  The problem with Franklin and most schools for that matter is that those individuals that make the hiring decisions rarely know how to hire a successful coach.  The students at Franklin are a mix of inner-city, blue collar, affluent, etc… so that all of the sports programs could be successful.  It would require that all of the coaches were not only on the same page but were willing to share each others athletes.

You’re off on the demographic part. You’re describing the Franklin demographics 15 years ago, it’s now mostly affluent. Most of the blue collar kids are zoned for Centennial or Indy.

On 11/8/2023 at 9:03 AM, memphisfbguru12 said:

Nobody should want to work for the clown show that is Franklin High School and Williamson County’s administration. Somebody told me that they don’t even have field houses over there. All that money they got and not even a field house for the football team?

Franklin has very nice facilities, but they do have many other problems.

Ravenwood is playing a lot of Juniors and Sophomores, and sustained a couple of injuries in their last scrimmage. Alcoa should win this one despite how many kids Ravenwood has on their roster. 

11 hours ago, Blaze45 said:

Hard to gauge at the moment but Its about what I expected so far,  All in all not overly excited about the general feel of the program. This young team will be a work in progress for a while. It is not just a youth and experience thing it is a physical/ size development thing. They are just not as mature as some other teams are gonna be this year. I may be completely wrong, but I think a .500  season would be a stretch.

The schedule isn't as bad as it could be. They will probably  lose to both Ravenwood and Brentwood, but they are the only non-region games I see them losing. Riverdale is probably the favorite to be 2nd from what I am hearing, but Blackman should beat Rockvale and siegel so that puts them about 6-4. 

Thread has been quiet. How are things going? Has Blaze bought in to Coach K?

5 hours ago, CaptainGuru said:

There are several good Williamson County assistant coaches with a shot in this one as well. I can confirm Coach J is also in the mix though. I am Captain Guru and I approve this message.

Know what Wilco assistants are in the running?

On 11/8/2022 at 11:00 PM, 731Ball said:

When will West TN football evolve? I encourage anyone to go watch a 3A-4A game in East TN and then watch a similar caliber game in West TN. East TN is so much more advanced on offense that it’s not even the same game. I’m not saying teams in West TN should throw it 30 times a game. You don’t have to throw it to add motion to your offense and more formations. West TN, outside of one or two schools, is playing football like it’s 1994 still. That’s the real reason that we get thumped in the semis or state championships in 3A and 4A. It’s not a talent differential. It’s better offense and QB’s (which is a whole other story).

 

I get what you're saying, but the truth is coaches are going to coach what they know. It's easy to say just run that offense and you will win, but coaches can't be someone they are not. I don't think the reason why they lose to Middle and east TN teams is because of the offensive schemes. I think there's a lot more to it than that. 

3 hours ago, MichaelMyers76 said:

All I hear is that it is Stewart's job to turn down.

Our East Nashville fan doesn't buy that haha.

Back to Centennial. Spring break ends for Williamson this week so maybe we will find out the new Head Coach this upcoming week??

Up tempo power spread. Not Wingt T

1 hour ago, PurpleCat said:

I sincerely gotta ask, what is your issue with Wilco? This ain't the first time I've seen you jump all over that system. You seem to have an axe to grind with them and Montgomery County both. 

In fairness, I kinda threw a shot at his team when I brought up WIlco's success against Henry County. He probably has an axe to grind with Montgomery County schools all opting to play 6a which puts Henry in a much tougher region haha.

10 hours ago, MSURacer said:

We all understand how population works. That isn’t the issue. The issue is that you are pretending that population, money, and location does not play a role in the Wilco schools’ record against Henry County, when anyone with eyes and a fraction of sense realizes it does. 
 

And yes, the Wilco publics have been largely underwhelming given their location, money, and population. They do offer up some parity, but not much else. 

How is population that big of a factor? HC is bigger than page by like 200 students. Centennial and Nolensville are about the same as HC and the 6a schools are only larger by about 2-3 hundred students. If population was that big of a factor Collierville and Bartlet would be winning the championship every year. The money is not what you think it is. Yes, the county is wealthy, but it's all divided amongst the schools, and they put academics first. Whereas in Henry County, it's all concentrated on one high school. 

Ok.  If that's the case, HC has been even more overwhelming, and everyone not named Oakland and Alcoa have been underwhelming.

47 minutes ago, MSURacer said:

A population of 250,000 people, money, and access to one of the fastest growing metro areas in the country is what I'm talking about. 

But yes, a football period and some indoor weights make all the difference I am sure. Some of the issues you mention actually do explain the lack of dominance from that area though.  

The population is divided amongst 9 other high schools and close to private schools, which HC is not close to one. The money is also divided. In 5a, Wilco has been pretty dominant. Since 2015, a Wilco team has made it to the state championship game 6 of the 8 years. In 6a, 4 of 8. What do you consider dominant? Oakland like in 6a? (No school in Wilco will come close to the talent level of Oakland)  Alcoa like in 3a? Very hard to find that

3 hours ago, AllSidesEqualBoro said:

Sounds like Coach K is the man over there at Blackman.  I’m hearing structure, stability, accountability, willingness to work with others, etc, etc,  Congrats Blackman faithful.

Not surprised. He's a school guy and is very well respected in this area. 

2 hours ago, MSURacer said:

I did, but I don't really care. I would definitely agree that Wilco has had Henry's number (as they should, given their resources and generally larger schools). But at the end of the day, it's not something I give much thought. Personally, I find Wilco to be a pretty underachieving school district athletically. Never understood why the Franklin, Brentwood, Centennial, and Page types haven't been more consistent contenders. 

Ravenwood, Indy, and Summit have had some high flyers through the years, but there's never been a truly dominant program from that area. 

Lol what resources are you talking about? Williamson schools doesn't have a football athletic period during the day like you do, or a huge indoor facility like you do, or the whole county to yourself with as much community support as anyone in the state. Henry County should never lose to Page who by the way is smaller in enrollment than Henry County, and y'all lost two years in a row to them. There isn't generally a dominant program over the others because there's a lot of parity. 

So who is the name? Heard it's a big time metro coach, but did not hear for sure who it was. Stewart? Woods? 

On 3/11/2023 at 3:18 PM, TheLiaison said:

Big misconception that Williamson pays better. It doesn’t. Coaching wise it’s way below average. Teacher wise it’s average. 

You're right about the coaching pay. The teacher pay is well below Metro, but is still 6th or 7th in the state which would definitely be above average compared to the rest of the state. 

1 hour ago, Vol9093 said:

Started to hear some things in the fall that was troubling, but what I'm hearing now is embarrassing.  Kriesky has a mess to clean up.

What's going on?

7 minutes ago, MidTennFootball said:

The road to a title is easier, but not by alot. Even if they did find a way to get past those two, probably then would have to deal with Henry Co then whatever juggernaut from East TN makes it to the title game. 

Metro is extremely top heavy, WillCo is probably the top to bottom county in terms of # of teams that are successful, so no surprise there. Unless they're unhappy at where they are at, I just don't see the pros outweighing the cons for Stewart and Woods to leave for Centennial. Woods wasn't going to be a good fit for Blackman and he def wouldn't be for Centennial 

The road is my point. If you are playing Henry County, you are in the semifinals, and if you play one of the East TN juggernauts, you are in the state championship haha. Hopefully, nobody from the HC thread see's this but we all know the success Williamson schools have had against Henry County. I get your point in saying they have a good situation where they are at, and it's probably true when it comes to just football, but coaches also have jobs in the school building during the school day and there's a reason why Metro has a VERY hard time hiring teachers despite the high pay. I am not surprised that there are Metro coaches interested in this job. 

1 hour ago, MidTennFootball said:

Believe it or not, the pay isn't better. Competitively, big difference between the talent level at Centennial and the talent level at PC/East/CR. Centennial also is in the same region as Page and Nolensville.

Not from a lack of trying 

The road to a state championship is much easier in 5a. Yes, Page and Nolensville is in the region, but look at the rest of the region. Centennial and Williamson County schools have had huge success in 5a. Cane Ridge is in a favorable region, but most likely 3 out 4 will get beat by the Williamson County 6a region in the playoffs. 2019 3 out of 4 got beat in the first round by Williamson and 2020 all 4 got beat in the first round. Yes, the pay is better in Metro, but Williamson County is the best system to work in if you are an educator. Talent is better in Metro, but 8 out of 10 times Metro Schools lose to Williamson schools. I don't know if that is the exact ratio, but it's a lot.