theunderstudy

After having more time to reflect, I think JP could be a solid dude for the job. Having run a legit middle school program at Blackman, I think it bodes well. I also think DCA is a far better job than ER and he has way more resources. I do like that a DCA guy is getting a chance to prove himself. Wish they had a Chattanooga game scheduled for 2024 season! 

A lot of moving pieces in DII currently with boys basketball. Who do we think we will get the remaining opening jobs? 

20 hours ago, Playerscoach said:

CJP has a better resume than DG had when he was hired and that definitely was a “change “ made when the program was doing well. 
 

As far as the admissions office have you see the school, the facilities, the enrollment, the large pay increase for the teachers, or the max capacity in the elementary school??? The momentum is absolutely palpable in DCA overall with the exception of the big three men’s teams. The most successful men’s team will be the soccer team and that’s unacceptable. CPW was gearing up for a possible gold ball so all credit to him but basketball and baseball have to be addressed. Both head coaches are good men but the competitiveness of those programs isn’t there. Keep both on staff as teachers and leaders but hiring new blood is necessary. Again, I like and respect both but change has to be made. 
 

Im convinced CJP will do a great job because CPW and DG think so. While seeing every team in the history of DCA in the TSSAA I can tell you there are cycles in the program. This cycle will bring a championship or two until Jay passes it on to the next guy 15-20 years from now. 

You are responding to a post from 2/6, while a hundred others have come in since.  I will just agree with you.

2 hours ago, Booger said:

Agreein Booger with FBfan26....up to last sentence.....and for the 100th time statement of Booger is that McCallie along with its little red raider sister over at Suk creek both been boardin over 100 yrs and wernt causin the rest of the state to butt hurt

..and to respond to FBfan26's wonder....no McCallie will not....nor does Booger think they should

Booger just sayin 

Agree with @Booger here, no one has been upset about those boarding schools until the last half-decade. Why would McCallie or Baylor volunteer to play a national schedule @FBfan26 ? 

You ain't from around these parts or ain't ever visited on a Friday night in the Fall, so hear it from someone who has... those two schools care about one thing when it comes to football. Beating the crosstown rival... and for the past half-decade if you win that game, you're in a spot to win a gold ball.

When I meet grown adults in Chattanooga and get to talking, they ask "Where did you go to school?" I always reply UTC for undergrad and Vanderbilt for grad school. The response is always "No, did you go to Baylor or McCallie?" It's different around here, man. This quite literally is life.  

I imagine they both care zero about playing schools like IMG Academy, Bishop Gorman, etc.  What would either  gain from that? 

18 minutes ago, Gambler said:

I am glad to hear the past is being honored. 

A lot of discussion is being made about the integrity of the school and their leadership during the last few years.  No other program or sport at Lipscomb has experienced any large scale scrutiny or trouble other than football.  Therefore as I stated previously the football program is an isolated case/situation.  Ultimately the leadership of the school is responsible for programs but I don't think the football issue is an indictment of the entire institutions moral standard. 

Again in my opinion the TSSAA board ruling is not just a response to two cases but a ruling regarding the entire public persona of the football program and what had been going on(fact/fiction).  We all know that most schools recruit especially in the private division.  If the QB moves to Lipscomb with his parents... sets up a residence and enrolls in school then I do not see a violation despite the interesting timing.  Yes he could of gotten financial aid but that situation did not occur that way.  MCcallie or other boarding schools I presume follow rules set forth by the TSSAA so to me that is not an excuse.   Other programs around Nashville had been turning Lipscomb into the TSSAA for the past few seasons for violations and according to my sources the TSSAA had given them slaps on the wrist. 

Hopefully this will be a turning point for the program and the future will be brighter.  Sadly many who once loved the school will only be observing from a distance.

Mccallie, Baylor, Webb School, etc. that having boarding programs are not doing what Lipscomb did in this scenario. They operate within the parameters that the TSSAA governing body has set for any institution that wants to have a boarding program. 

Go look at the Tennessean article that came out recently "bona fide change of residence" new term of the week.  

The second half of the article is fascinating with the text messages and violations that others on this board have been commenting about.  I want to hear more about this from other folks in the know

https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/high-school/2023/10/30/deuce-knight-lipscomb-academy-postseason-ban-tssaa-football-playoffs-2023/71384369007/

39 minutes ago, MidTennFootball said:

Never said Oakland wouldn't lose but certainly won't back down from a challenge. Oakland scrimmages McCallie every year and holds their own so yet again I say I don't see any volunteers

For sure, and I think Oakland could beat any DIIAAA team on the right night. It would be awesome to see one of the big DII schools schedule them during the season. 

3 minutes ago, FR615 said:

You guys lose at least 2 if you played in D2AAA East 

Agreed, Oakland would go 9-3 in a season in D2AAW east. 

On 3/1/2024 at 5:06 PM, Booger said:

Last thing Booger needs is some hargiswantabe instructin Booger on Boogers wherebouts…

….Booger nose the organizational structure of this T threadin stuff backwards and innerds…and have so since way before some boot poster hijacked the coattails of that world famous columbo like sports writer from the TFP

….was usin Oakland as a point of Interest in the topic at hand

…and Booger actually thinks the T$$AA should make creasy team Play uP I. The blue blood division if the tssaa and it supportin ADs and principle are goin to penalize them Nashville Presbyterians and force them Up to lose for bein successful 

Booger just sayin 

Booger, i know you are older than time itself and appreciate what you have done for the decade and a half I’ve been following CoachT. 

Everyone here is entitled to talk ball and give their opinion, even if that doesn’t sit right with Boog. I like that everyone can have difference of opinion.

We disagree on CPA. We agree on Baylor and Mccallie not being an issue until they started winning gold balls.

 The understudy pays more attention to the state of TN football than most and has for a long time. 

1 minute ago, FBCoach1983 said:

The four big schools enrollment are not that large, T$$AA multiples their enrollment by 2 for classification purposes because they are all boy schools. 
 

Yes I would agree CBHS has been a let down the last few years. 
 

Why doesn’t the T$$AA just drop the AAA class down to 350 and now 16 teams are up? 
 

Does it really matter, it will be the Baylor/McCallie show until the T$$AA decides to do something about boarding schools. 

Looking at that list, that is about the exact # of kids Baylor has in High School. If you add middle school #s in, it's more like 1080.  

What do you think TSSAA would decide for the two large boarding institutions? Does anyone ever see that happening? 

2 minutes ago, gcapride said:

#	School	Enrollment	Class
1	Ezell-Harding Christian School	126	A
2	Mt. Juliet Christian Academy	141	A
3	The King's Academy	154	A
4	Tipton-Rosemark Academy	172	A
5	Fayette Academy	178	A
6	Trinity Christian Academy	186	A
7	Harding Academy	200	A
8	Clarksville Academy	204	A
9	Donelson Christian Academy	207	A
10	Friendship Christian School	209	A
11	Jackson Christian School	227	A
12	First Assembly Christian School	235	A
13	Middle Tennessee Christian School	255	A
14	Providence Christian Academy	255	A
15	Nashville Christian School	256	A
16	Grace Christian Academy - Franklin	259	A
17	Columbia Academy	265	A
18	Davidson Academy	272	AA
19	Grace Christian Academy - Knoxville	288	AA
20	University School of Jackson	292	AA
21	Evangelical Christian School	308	AA
22	The Webb School	309	AA
23	St. George's Independent School	315	AA
24	Goodpasture Christian School	325	AA
25	Franklin Road Academy	363	AA
26	Lakeway Christian Academy	364	AA
27	Northpoint Christian School	370	AA
28	Battle Ground Academy	373	AA
29	Boyd Buchanan High School	384	AA
30	Lausanne Collegiate School	384	AA
31	Notre Dame High School	392	AA
32	Christian Academy of Knoxville	410	AA
33	Silverdale Baptist Academy	416	AA
34	St. Benedict at Auburndale	458	AA
35	Christ Presbyterian Academy	473	AA
36	Webb School of Knoxville	483	AA
37	Pope John Paul II Preparatory School	521	AA
38	Chattanooga Christian School	526	AA
39	Brentwood Academy	466	AAA
40	Ensworth High School	469	AAA
41	Lipscomb Academy	479	AAA
42	Briarcrest Christian School	622	AAA
43	Knoxville Catholic High School	675	AAA
44	Baylor School	718	AAA
45	Father Ryan High School	885	AAA
46	Memphis University School	930	AAA
47	Montgomery Bell Academy	1130	AAA
48	McCallie School	1448	AAA
49	Christian Brothers High School	1454	AAA

Split it at 350 then. Create the most even #s possible in both divisions.  24 in one class, 25 in the other.

Goodpasture is the biggest in A and FRA is the smallest in AA.  

Thanks for providing the graphic, I think the most eye-opening stat of all is how Christian Brothers could do so little with so many boys. Good Lord.

A, AA, AAA return?!

Go back to 3 champions for the ENTIRE State? I know this will never happen again but think of the quality of football we would see come playoff time. I'm drooling over here.

1 hour ago, Booger said:

Stephenhargundwratudy May be correct on that. Just Maybe! 
 

with that , stapenhargisunderstudy believes in a system where and individual should be able to hand pick a team that’s had lots of success in its legally qualified class and move them to a classification where they want want be as successful and championships……so a school with more students can when

it some some championships

whats hargisunderstudy going to do with Oakland?

Booger just sayin 

Booger, you are lost. This is the DII thread. Last I check Oakland isn't in DII.

But, if you want to extend them an invite, I'd be happy to see that. In the 2021-22 season where Oakland went 15-0, they played LA and CPA and they squeaked by with a win in both contests.  Impressive considering those two played for the AA ball that year. Let them play the AAA East region gauntlet of a schedule  just sayin 

1 minute ago, Chattanoogachoochoo said:

Fix the problem easily.  Do away with 3 classes in DII.  Everyone over 400 goes up to AA and 399 and down goes down to A.   Across the board.  They are all recruiting and breaking the rules. Let them battle it out.  Most are “Christian” based schools so we know they won’t cheat by sneaking players from out of state in and illegally housing them.  

That's what I was about to post. This is the best option if you are talking about those Blue Blood programs getting to play in AA if there are 3 classes.

Just move it back to A and AA.  If we have 3 classes and you think Ensworth or BA should move into AA to win a gold ball, you are part of the problem. 

6 hours ago, Booger said:

Which is a bogus and short sided view on how it should work….

let’s move CPA up just because they have their act together….but when your program stinks and smell like a loser you can come back down a play with the middle class

Booger just sayin

I don't think it's that short-sided. I want the best private teams in the states playing at the top level of DII. CPA would be a top 5 DII AAA team immediately. Heck, if you are nice to them and put them in the West, they are the best team already.

8 hours ago, QuickStrike said:

If BA and Ensworth move down, they are extremely soft and what is wrong with this generation.

Agreed, if BA and Ensworth move down that would be shocking.

There is not a explanation in the world for why either of those schools should be in competition with schools like Silverdale, Webb Bell Buckle, etc. 

I don’t know about CCS or Knox Webb moving up, either. They aren’t consistently competitive or dominant in the class they are currently in. And I get it’s a #s thing. And they fit the criteria for what the committee has decided.

I would vote to leave it how it is currently with the only exception being to move CPA up, get your 12th team, and call it a day.

2 hours ago, BingoLong said:

Why would the QB live in the dorm when his dad has moved twice in three years to put him in a postiion to be the guy. Thought they lived in Chattanooga now? Did mom stay back in Ktown with the girls?

Possibility that his family moved, last I saw him listed it said from Knoxville, TN. But, his family may have moved to Chatt area by now.

On 2/24/2024 at 7:38 PM, FBfan26 said:

Sleep in a dorm or sleep in my own bed?? Most of these private school kids stay within 30 mins of the school. I hope the boarding school thing don't happen in middle. Yall can keep that in East Tn

You say that about sleeping in a dorm room vs. your own bed, but that doesn't stop people. You act like the East TN schools dorms aren't incredibly nice  The price per bed at one of those schools is more than 2x your mortgage big dawg.

I'll leave this right here.. Baylor is going to start a QB, RB, WR2 who all have SEC offers and all are boarding students. Add a day student who is WR1 with SEC offers, and you have 4 skills players who have big-time offers on the same side of the ball. 

I think East TN is just fine keeping it all to themselves 

I’m so confused by all that’s going on in this thread now.
 

But, I’m excited to see so many people invested in the academy. I believe Dca has support unlike any other DII A school.
 

The next decade and beyond could be a special time if done right with all that’s happening there. They HAVE to build on the momentum and keep finding $ to improve facilities and attract folks to go there instead of one of the other 50 private schools in Nashville. 

49 minutes ago, Sackmaster50 said:

Well "comfortable" doesn't always get you the best outcome. Lots of people need to get out of their comfort zone down there and see beyond 300 Danyacrest Drive. Until then, status quo never changes....

I 100% agree with this statement. For change to come and things to continue to improve the school needs to get out of its comfort zone. Whether that be a potentially unconventional hire (see CJP), more $ to attract talent, etc.  I want the academy to achieve unprecedented success in all sports and academics. And I think that is possible in time with the mentality you mentioned. 

1 minute ago, Doppelganger said:

It is my understanding that DCA DC Beaubien has accepted the Head Coaching job at Scott City HS, MO.  I don't know the full details and would be interested to see if new DCA Coach has reached out to current coaches to remain on staff or encourage them to move on.  Playerscoach, please chime in.  

That's good intel, thanks for the update. Congrats to Coach if that is the case. Great guy, wish him all the best in his new ventures in MO. 

I am not a hoops guy. And I didn't say they were a head college coach. Just that he had experience in a Nashville university under a legendary coach. And since has worked at the boy big level of DII in the state of TN. 

The point of the response is DCA can have top-level coaches in ALL sports. We don't have to settle for men or women who are good teachers and beg them/let coach because they want to.

Nashville is attractive enough and DCA is strong enough that qualified coaches would go there if they are compensated well. I'm not saying CPW compensation. But, fair compensation. If you want to move this thing to the next level with that fancy new athletic building and facilities, HIRE COACHES to lead their sport. 

That gets me on another soap box, they need to pay teachers at the academy more as well. I KNOW they are getting a nice raise, and headed in a better direction.  BUT it still isn't enough compared to comparable independent schools in TN. 

I'm afraid the search for basketball would be so small and closed. It would be some alumni/someone who has been through DCA in the coaching ranks in the past decade. 

I have a guy who would win basketball titles at DCA and who wants to be in the Nashville area with a resume and track record far more proven than Dr. Johnson and this is coming at the highest level of DII and college levels.

14 hours ago, chs1984 said:

No dog in this but not Private AAA. It’s all about the two Chattanooga privates the past several years.

Right?! What is this guy talking about Mid-State private school being on another level? DII AAA runs through Chattanooga. And it has been this way for a minute. 

Now, other areas of DII may run through the mid-state area. Some decent public school teams (see Pearl Cohn), but the Nashville elite private schools are getting taken to the shed by the two Chatt schools as of late.

I still will never understand why a Nashville school has yet to embrace the boarding school model like Baylor and McCallie do. At Baylor only 200 kids board of the 800ish high school students. Most of those are out of state/country and around 75% of them are athletes that have excelled in their respective sport.

It's not rocket science. Get kids through the doors that can play even if they aren't local. Nashville is a far more appealing draw than SE TN (Baylor and McCallie are great institutions, I'm speaking only on Chattanooga v. Nashville in terms of what the cities have to offer) and I think programs like MBA, Ensworth, BA, Lipscomb, etc. could dominate in most sports if that were to happen. 

I can’t wait for CPW to beat Ensworth annually for years to come. Ricky Bowers knows he messed up years ago passing on Wade and I’m looking forward to him being reminded.