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15 hours ago, StateChampDad said:

Wow…just checked in to see if there was any region chat from the SE part of the state and stumbled across this.  More running up the scores talk.  I wouldn’t say that the scores are run up…I’d say the other team can’t stop them.  What do you propose be done…go 4 corners and pass the ball around for 3 quarters? Maybe intentionally miss shots to keep it close?  Shoot from 1/2 court only?  Play 3 on offense and keep 2 back on the other end? Maybe only play 4 players???  
 

Why would you penalize the Bradley players because the other teams can’t match their level?  They are playing for another championship and in order to do that they are expected to pay their best night in and night out.  Teams competing for championships don’t slow down. You play the game to win.  Plain and simple.  
 

As for Reuter there’s no one else in the area that I would have wanted my kid to play for…call names all you want if it makes you feel good. Maybe sometime you can show us on a doll where he hurt you! That might be the first step in your recovery.  

Stop being a homer for once. If you just watch the Bradley girls games they are running up the score. Just recently I clicked in to see how much they were beating Howard by, it was something like 50 points in the 3rd quarter and Bradley was still pushing the ball up the court for fast break layups. You can't tell me that's not running up the score? Pack it in a zone, get the rebound, wait for the defense to set up, and if they don't pressure, then yes hold the ball. That is (in my opinion) the downfall of TN, no shot clock. If they pressure you, run the halfcourt sets and score. You follow this method, you are still "playing to win", you are just doing it with a little class which wouldn't hurt considering these are teenage girls we are talking about. 

18-20 wins, means nothing if they are not quality wins in my opinion

Winning districts consistently, yes positive

Getting knocked out in regions, no shame there, also a positive

The question would be what is keeping this coach from getting over the hurdle? Are they stuck in their ways and not willing to adjust? Do they just simply run it to better talent at the stage? 

A lot of variables to determine what constitutes a "good coach"

21 hours ago, LadyCavsFan said:

If its the dark horse and not the favorites....

A:     Clay County 

AA.   NONE!   There will be 8 horses and there won't be a easy side of the bracket!  There won't even be an easy first round game!

AAA:  hmmmm maybe Heritage would be considered a dark horse

AAAA:   Since BC is everyone's pick.  Everyone else ahs to be considered a dark horse so I will roll with Cookeville!  (of course I couldn't pick anyone else in this division)

Heritage is the real deal, teams better watch out for them! 

Will be a refreshing change to Rhea Co football. Give it a few seasons to really get implemented and see what they can do. 

7 minutes ago, WestTNHoopsFan said:

This is how is use to be... Not anymore...

Players play/officiate/coach

coaches coach/officiate

refs officiate/put on a show

parents officiate/coach/put on a show

 

 

Aint that the truth! 

11 hours ago, strongx said:

As hard as it is to believe, there are occasionally some basketball parents who know more basketball than the Health teacher. Strange indeed!

While this certainly can be true. It undermines the integrity and authority structure of the basketball program. 

Players play

Coaches Coach

Refs Officiate

Parents Cheer

At least that's how it should be. 

1 hour ago, CU06 said:

Is Bradley Central the greatest thing since then? These scores are incredible. Surely theyll be cutting down the nets in the Boro in a few weeks.

They recruit well and are a powerhouse no denying that. They would be my pick to cut down the nets. Their coach on the other hand is a piece of you know what. Running up scores on teams like that is completely unnecessary. 

It will revert back to the dumpster fire it always has been. It's not secret Vestal was trying to get out already, he thought he was the frontrunner for the LC job. The only way the "wins" continue is to soften the schedule again. Let's be honest 2-8 is nothing to be proud of. Only reason it got any recognition was because of how long it had been since. 

1 hour ago, SheriffofRedRock said:

What offense will this guy run? I always thought that pemberton's O fit the type of kids that Rhea had. Everyone wants to be flashy and throw the ball in 4 and 5 WR sets but that just isn't the personnel that everyone has. Obviously Rhea got into some lean years and the local folk say he ran RBs into the ground but when you only have one horse you gotta use them, but I get needing to share the love. It will be interesting to see. I think for the foreseeable future that chatt area region is WV's

When the HC has a philosophy you gotta follow it, unfortunately for Rhea Co, his philosophy ran off a lot of skill players that otherwise would of been a great fit for a more balanced attack utilizing spread formations. Imagine having to prep for a team that could run a spread and wing-T at a high rate of success on any given play. Matchup nightmare. 

12 hours ago, ReitzFan said:

They were clearly giving instruction during the game. They were talking with officials trying to "work them.

Giving instruction doesn't mean they were coaches? Or that they are on staff? Also, sounds like it is more on the refs for engaging with spectators rather than coaches on the actual bench. 

13 hours ago, tennesseeannouncer said:

Against the rules? Probably.

Unethical? Absolutely.

We are getting to a point in society where everything either has to be governed or have a rule. Assumed integrity is disappearing more and more each day.

Out of nothing more than curiosity, can you be a little more specific about what they were doing?

At the risk of changing the subject, the TSSAA does not put enough emphasis on what coaches are and are not allowed to do in my opinion. There’s a box for a reason. And don’t get me started on coaches that run toward an opposing player while they are shooting a three. That nonsense should be an automatic technical foul if not an ejection and fine.

Can't say I've ever seen this, but does not surprise me one bit that this would happen. 

2 minutes ago, oridgecat said:

these days you absolutely have to build positive relationships with these kids or it will never work.  Especially in a program that has struggled to win football games since the school opened.   I just can't see this working out, really just a strange hire and fit.   

I'm guessing, again just a guess no factual evidence to back this, but I think his time in Rhea just came to a close. Talent level is going to drop losing Davis, his bell cow. I also know that there was pressure from admin to control finances. He's been looking to get out over the past couple years, I can only believe CCHS offered up a nice chunk of $$$

Just now, SheriffofRedRock said:

I have heard he runs practice without pads, don't know if it is true or not. When he started at Rhea it didn't seem like it mattered but as time went on it started to seem like it was true.

Can only speak on what I've seen recently, and it was no shoulder pads on offense, full pad on defense. 

9 hours ago, ReitzFan said:

While at a basketball game this week, I came across something strange and I'd love to hear the opinions of others. A team arrived with 4 coaches All4 worked with the team in pregamwarm-ups. However, when the game started only 2 were on the bench. As it turns out, the other 2 coaches took up seats in the home teams section on the front row at mid court. They were giving players instructions from the opposite side from where their bench was. At half time the got up and went straight to the locker room. When it was time for the second half, they came out with the team and went back to the seats they occupied during the fist half where they repeated their coaching antics from the first half. At games end, they went back to the locker room and came back outwit the team and loaded the bus and left.

My question is simple, was what they did illegal in the eyes of the TSSAA? Or, was it unethical or just unsportsmanlike like? 

What say you Coach T members?

I don't see the problem in this? Were they actually coaches? Or were they volunteers helping out the team? Was it lower level coaches, such as a freshman team or JV team? They would not be required to sit on the bench then. How is it different than players taking instructions from parents? 

14 hours ago, Mavericksinflight said:

Hey it could work; something has to work. He appears to be a pretty good coach. But I had high hopes for the Price twins. Wife said if they couldn't get CCHS to stability than no one can. And they did start off well and were completive longer than anyone in CCHS history and beat Oak Ridge which was a first. 

As far as X's and O's, he's up there with the rest of them. As far as relationship building, nope. And in high school sports that matters. The kids need to believe you have their best interest at heart. If you are not a starter, or a highly talented backup, you might as well not exist. He runs his program like a college one, and it relies heavily on the strength and conditioning program. 

18 hours ago, Mavericksinflight said:

A side note. I am surprised media wise for a Rhea County coach to switch in a few respects; Rhea has always been leaning less media attention towards showing games on tv  Nfhs etc. while Campbell county is all about transparentcy having all there games live etc. and another point this will be a complete turn around. Whereas Rhea is known for ground and pound. I don't see that system working out well for CCHS. The crowds are about quick thrill and frils at CCHS. As CCHS just has really never had a winning program until the Price brothers got there. CCHS has tried this ground and pound numerous times and so far they haven't accomplished much. It's just not a ticket seller and they need that to keep interest involved. Maybe the new coach will put his stock in Defense but that may not sell for too long. Wish the coach the best and maybe that's why he's the coach, he may know better than the fans 

One thing CCHS will learn is Pemb does not give two S***s about the fans or media. He will run the double wing-T, it's his baby and he knows it better than anyone. But Defensive side of the ball will be whatever the DC decides to run. 

19 hours ago, fan4sure said:

just wondering :When and where did this crazy tradition of when a player is introduced before the game, the player goes and fist bumps the referees then goes and fist bumps the opposing coaches. One game i saw the players even fist bumping all the people at the scorers table. What will be next the player going through the stands fist bumping all the fans.  I just think this is alittle crazy and we should get back to the way it used to be

Does it really bother you that much? What is crazy about showing some good sportsmanship? What I think is more ridiculous is all these handshakes/dances they want to do. Just run out when your name is announced and move along. 

17 hours ago, UCSportsFan said:

In my many years of going to ball games throughout this glorious state of ours, I’ve encountered some really good concession stands, and some that are not so good. However, over the past few years, it’s been harder and harder to find a good concession stand at ball games. There are a few good ones left though. So without further ado I’ll list my favorites and encourage feedback from others on this topic. 
 

White County has the best BBQ sandwiches 

Clay County has the best popcorn and cookies

However, Livingston Academy has by far the best overall concession stand in middle Tn. You can get anything from pizza to banana pudding and most everything in between. Hotdogs hamburgers cookies candy and popcorn of course. They also serve Coke products which is even better! All the things that are good for us! Haha

The problem with concessions, like everything else nowadays, is the cost. $3 for a bottle of pop is crazy! 

21 hours ago, TheTruthHurts22 said:

They don’t even have enough refs for the regular season let alone if you add a book keeper to every game, unfortunately. However in the post season I believe it can be done a lot easier,  because not all teams will be playing. 
 

Edit: TSSAA should teach the younger non experienced refs how to keep the book,  while simultaneously letting them watch the seasoned more experienced refs work the games. It some instances it may help the younger refs gain confidence and understand the game better. However this may not help too much since some of them only have a basic grasp of the rules let alone the situations that arise! I’ve seen many of instances of just horrid officiating and even refs losing control of the games this year from both young and old officials than ever before! We are going to be in major trouble when the Boomers and gen Xers  retire from officiating. 

I really like this idea!!! 

21 hours ago, Southern said:

I have been a scorekeeper for over 25 years and only on one occasion has this been an issue. The home scorekeeper recorded a foul on the wrong player and led to a lengthy discussion right before halftime. the officials agreed it was recorded on the wrong player but the "official" scorekeeper would not change the foul. It was not an issue in the 4th quarter of the game. Although we had to remove the player to make sure he did not pick up his fifth foul. I do travel to all the away games to make sure this does not happen. For years the visiting scorekeeper always sat next to the official scorekeeper. Know you have all the live video and audio that is at the bench and the scorekeepers get separated. I believe it is up to the host school to have a competent person keeping the book. Where i am from the host school provides the scorekeeper for all the regional, sectional games, it is not until you reach the final 8 that the state assigns the scorekeeper.

THIS!!! even when the error is clearly stated and they just continue to go along with it. Makes absolute no sense. 

21 hours ago, Fawhy said:

But regular season directly affects the post season. So it should be a non biased party that does it at all times. I just can't believe that people can't just be honest and not cheat smh

Agree 100%

On 2/8/2024 at 8:27 AM, WestTNHoopsFan said:

I haven't seen this in a game this year but have seen it in the past. The remedy is for the home and visitor scorebooks to be sitting side by side instead of the home book at one end of the table the the visitor book at the other. 

I agree such a simple and common sense approach, but yet you see some scorekeepers who have this ego that they are the home book and refuse to conversate. We all make mistakes and sometimes its hard to hear the ref or they might throw up a number but then say another so having that conversation and checking books after every quarter or at least at the half would just keep the integrity of the game. 

Thank you so much for this! That dude is so annoying. Such a troll

21 hours ago, chs1984 said:

Guys, I know it’s fun to speculate on sights like this. But this job literally has just opened up. They are early in the accepting applications phase. Then they will move on to the first round of interviews and proceed from there. In other words, it’s going to be a while. The only exception to the above is if you have an obvious successor on staff already. And even then it doesn’t hurt to advertise the job as you might get an application or two that you wasn’t expecting.

In conclusion everyone "knows a guy" or has "a source" but yet no name can be given. Great discussion board

Should there be a neutral-unbiased party that does books for varsity games? Seen a lot of instances where discrepancies in the books sway games one way or the other and there is nothing for a visiting team to do because you have to go by the home teams book as it is "official".