compusatman

I disagree. To be a great coach does not mean one has to be an ######. Many adjectives describe a great coach and many facets are required to be successful, however the perfect coach is one you admire and respect. Someone you would take a hit for. Someone whose words penetrate the concrete of your soul and make your heart pump like never before. Yes, the coach should be tuff beyond comparison but should also have compassion. I don't think there is a standard mould for a great coach but rather many avenues to success. Of the greatest coaches I had as a youth one was a failure in the eyes of the community but he taught me more football technique and more motivational expertise than any other person the rest of my life. The other hated me. He tried his best to make me quit but quit I would not and in the end...he respected me for not giving up and I respected him for pushing me to the edge. A great coach is all these things.

What you are describling is the SEC. On any given Saturday anyone can win. What kind of reputation does the SEC have...the strongest conference in the nation. No one in the SEC goes undefeated normally. If our conference had that kind of competition then each game would be a nail biter. I think fans would see this as a good thing. As far as the 90% thing...I think he is wrong. It is 100%!

I think this: this is a place people come to vent a little bit. Some brag, some bit##, some cry, some just make no sense...but the things that are said here by and large could not be said face to face. There are those, and I think we are 2, that would say it no differently face up. Compassion allows one to leave another one with his dignity by stopping just short of the explosion. There are those times it is imperitive to go the distance and those times the need is to chill. And hopefully we know when to do which. Ultimately, like you said, relax it is supposed to be a fun place. Come down off your high horse and talk some trash with us. Jamesbad said to me that "I need to let my wounds heal" and how right he was! I got here by accident and then there was an accident...and this was my place to scream. In the end, I went to the source and "aired it out" and ultimately it worked out for the best. Some of us take ourselves a bit too seriously and I guess I'm one. Some of us talk real loud and hope to get a rise from the comatose and that is you. I promise to lighten up if you promise to use less salt. But "BY THE GODS" let THS and SSHS bring this conference up to battle speed!

I disagree. If the talent level of the league rose across the board then all we would have is more competition. More competition leads to a better league. A better league leads to a better regional representative. A better regional representative leads to a better chance at a state championship. A state championship region gets statewide respect. Statewide respect would mean more scholarships. Is there something about that scenario that you dislike? Think about it.

The only coaching I've done is my kids. I played during the late 60's early 70's and many of the techniques used then have been all but forgotten. I resurected them for my kids and ###### if Retro ain't Macho'. These techniques made them look like superstars just because few (current) coaches have ever used many of these things. But in the past year I see these tricks coming back. Movies like "Friday Nite Lights" elaborate on some of these specialities, also the documentary of Walter Peyton. Moves like spin, bustin'up, sidestep, 3 steppin', rollin' out of double teams, etc. Then also I see a resurgence of the dirt...like spearing, crack-backin'. But you don't just fall off a wagon and produce these moves...they are like dancing...you got to have groove to make them happen. And they are meticulous, mathmatical, calculating. I see RB's attempt to spin cause Boobi Miles did it but the coaches don't know how to do it cause they weren't taught it and everybody is just ad-libbin'. It don't work like that. These moves take precision movement like Taekwondo. And if you don't do it right then you will blow a knee, ankle or fumble the ball...just many things. Technique is always engineered not BS'd. Which actually is why most of these techniques fell from grace...too many injuries blamed on the coach for teaching such a dangerous move. When it wasn't the coach it was the student not being attentive to the step by step instruction. Most coaches, for example, teach a RB to run north/south. Everybody who is anybody knows when it comes to running the ball the back has to have the freedom to "feel" the daylight. That's something you can't teach though you can encourage independence. Most local coaches are threatened by that type of player. Run the hole or sit the bench. Backwards thinking. In the 60's and 70's we were open minded...maybe a little too much...Ha! So GLee...he has never discounted me, but ArtVanDalay, MaroonandGray, and a few others...well let's just say that I read their words with earnest simply because they keep the fire going, but I take some of their meanings with a grain of sand. Anyway, maybe someday I'll get to coach little league or something after mine are gone.

Cap...does that mean I can sit with the big boys now? I will buy you a Coke if we play at the Castle for the region just to show my gratitude.

Some of your points are contridictory. None of my points are contradictory. How can it cause all these negative effects if it is difficult to digest? It causes all these negative effects because it is difficult to digest. 1. When taking powder CM you must take 10 times the amount needed because of the inefficiency of digesting a powder. 2. 90% of what you are taking goes out the urinary tract (overworking the kidneys). All of this gets filtered through the liver even before that. 3. It is much easier to digest something that is dissolved (water soluble) than something that needs to be dissolved such as powder. When using powder CM or anything else powder for that matter, more of the product must be ingested than actually is desired to be in the blood stream simply because of the inefficiency of the digestion of powder. So you are taking 10 times the amount you need on a daily basis. 90% of the money you are spending you are urinating it out and putting stress and strain on your body. The prescribed doses are between 3-5grams a day after the loading phase The loading phase is a waste of time, effort, and money. As far as safety goes numerous short and long term studies have shown no damage to the kidneys or liver or muscle cramps or strains when used in the correct doses. You need to go back to the research table. The U.S. Army has done quite a bit of research on Creatine with interesting findings. Powder is the the way to go if it is micronized, meaning the finest smallest powder they make (dust). Powder is powder and it is the worst way to go. Heart attack???? What source did this come from? You did not read the post. I did not state there was a documented case of a heart attack. I stated that the worst case scenario of localized cramping due to a lack of water while using CM can cause water to be "borrowed" from other muscles. The heart is a muscle. Therefore the heart can cramp. When the heart cramps the result is not good. It is unlikely for this to happen however when educating young men to use this product one must responsibly present all possibilities. The key is to try one and see if works for your needs. The key is to get on the computer and research and know exactly what you are taking and exactly what it does when it enters your body before you take it. It should also be cycled every 6 weeks. If the correct product is used under the correct guidlines then cycling every three months is optimum. This accomidates all four major high school sports. And don't forget the PROTEIN. It is more important than the creatine. You are correct, it is important. All the more importance for doing research. None of this stuff will do you any good with out a good work routine. Exactly! These recomendations only work if you work. These products simply allow you to reach a higher plateu. But you must climb to get there.

I'm from the South side but I have to reiterate my comments about the Cyclones. Coaching is everything. A great coach can turn around any program. The momentum will create talent. The boys that don't play but you wish they would will play when the program takes them to the VIP room. It is self perpetuating. Granted, a great coach demands support from the community. But when the program is top notch everything else falls in place. People stay there because of the good program. The jobs appear, the housing appears, the opportunities appear. Why move to a two-a-day town...just create your own! Fact is, Elizabethton had notariety and now it is gone? You didn't see what I saw on the field last Friday night at Death Valley! Elizabethton the team is waiting to be directed. You still have it...just fix it. Don't re-invent the wheel...just put a tire on it. But one thing is for sure...a Chief needs Indians! Elizabethton-21/S East-7.

Playing zone in the secondary IMO is weak. Bump (break the stride) & Run is a mans pass defense. Yes, you risk the chance of getting burned but you put the pressure on the connection. The QB has to take more time to gage the throw and the WR (in this league) has to be on his toes. The pass rush has to take the opportunity to pressurize the QB. It virtually eliminates the wheel route, sideline, etc. These routes are bread & butter to a spread team. Playing man takes stones; playing zone is a compromise. However, to play spread in the first place you need fast WR's otherwise you should be running under center with play action. South and DB have the WR's to run spread but you see even DB in play action if for no other reason than to cause confusion. They will spray a flurry for 3-4 plays bust an off-tackle then send Coty deep out of the spread. Bristol, IMO needs to run play action 60% of the time throwing to the weak side alternating with the run. Yes their DB's are weak but intimidation is powerful. It's easy to be an internet coach but fact is...when bump & run was used in the 70's it was devastating. If the bump staggers the WR then you see what kind of route he runs. Psycology. Of course, a good WR will only let that happen once. There are only a handful of good WR's in this league. Bristol-28/Central-7. Bristol won't wake up until they play J County.

99% of all college athletes use CM in addition to some other form of supplimentation. 90% of all premier high school (state championship quality) athletes use CM and other suppliments. The problem at the high school level is that the parents are not involved and the athletes experiment on their own. They experiment with dangerous suppliments and by and large are ignorant to the facts. Most premier school coaches are involved in the sale or at least the advisement of certain products and usually are the ones making the money. Some of these kids are spending $200-$300 dollars a month. Anything more than $50-$75 dollars a month is wasted. Trust me, the Campbell County coach is not alone. They are going to use them sooner or later so I advise to get the facts straight and educate them and put them on the right path starting out.

OK. I've waited for some other adult to jump on this thread and say the right things about Creatine Monohydrate but so far...nada. I have a couple of athletes and I had to become educated about the suppliment issues. I studied Creatine Monohydrate (CM) Amino Acids (AA) Human Growth Hormone (HGH) along with a couple of actual "steroids" for about 2 years before deciding on what to let my athletes use. I consider myself somewhat of an expert on CM, its delivery method, and the do's and don'ts of its use. First of all this directive is addressed to all the parents on this thread...If you don't completely understand CM how can you let your child use it. There are tons of misconceptions regarding CM and I will list the most important features. 1. The powdered form of CM should be avoided. The reasons are cost, hard on kidneys, hard on liver, hard on complete digestive system, and difficult to ingest. 2. CM can only be taken with water. Caffiene, Citric Acid, and Fructose all destroy CM's ability to be absorbed into the bloodstream. Glucose is the only "sugar" that does not turn CM into "Creatanine" which is a waste product. It is not commercially available. 3. CM requires 8-10 10oz. glasses of water a day while actively using the suppliment otherwise localized dehydration can occur. Local dehydration happens when a thigh or calf muscle runs out of water and steals its needed water from the closest supply (wherever that may be) and a resulting cramp occurs. The worst case scenario is a heart attack. If you are listening to the guys at the gym then you are making terrible mistakes. Find yourself a doctor or nurse practitioner that works out with CM and more than likely you will find a knowledgeable person. I do have printed information to include routines for all sports and suggested product brands. CM does work and is pretty powerful if used correctly. I will try and post back an address where you can request more information.

Cap...you loud mouth. Where have you been? There is no replacement for DB.

Well, I guess it wasn't actually reported. It is being talked about at South. And currently it is just a rumor. Hopefully that is all. Some of the parents agree that because of the student body issues (both sides) it seems to get more out of hand each year and therefore maybe it would be a good idea to give it up. I personally don't see that solving anything. Most of us feel that it is the most important game of the year. Maybe that is an issue also but one we can manage. When I hear more I'll post it.

I think Hess was asking for it.

It's one thing to get dumped on...and yet another to ask for it!

Tru that. Lynn Garden, some will say because of recruiting, however is always a ranking competitor along with Colonial Heights in Optimist League football. Ketron is never a competitor. Lynn Garden the armpit...yes. Bloomingdale an extension of Scott County...not as far as football talent is concerened.

Actually I wholeheartedly agree. I begged to replace Happy Valley with Science Hill or someone a little further down I81. And now the rumor mill has it that we will not play DB next year. I fear that to be a terrible mistake.

In the 70's Ketron was a literal powerhouse in football and Lynn View was dominant in basketball and baseball. All of those athletes became parents in 2 or 3 different school districts. Bloomingdale is not one of them. J County will put 35 points on the board.

Ever try moving an anvil? It's not big just heavy. Seth, Rino, Murray, Blake, & Jamie...Heavy "D".

Indeed...And to you!

And we think teachers deserve a raise! Many can sympathize with your plight. The words are easy, "...When the going gets tough..." the directive is another thing.

Sounds like they have the right man for the job. The problems must be in a lateral area. Anyone else have expertise?

The line between "support" and "abort" has evidently become a narrow craggy pass.

I'm not a faithful follower of Erwin although I've spent much time on the Appalachian Trail running through their mountains. It seems their QB is a bit larger than Curt and can throw the ball even though his percentages are in the 30's. They look to have a rather large O Line with one exception 5'8" or 5'9" I think. It looks like their secondary is weak. I played in the same era as Mr. Cooper who is a permanent fixture at the school. It is interesting to note that he (Cooper) was part of the very successful early 70's athletics programs at Erwin. Actually, All of Sullivan County and the Quad Cities were extremely tough in that era which include 2 assistants at South, 2 at Central and actually a time when in the 80's almost every head coach in the Tri-Cities and surrounding areas was from that era. And almost from one school. Suffice to say that Erwin has a good man at the helm. To shut down Souths passing attack will take some trickery. It has been done successfully but the avenues are narrow (oxy-moron) and very risky. Jordan Kitzmiller is on a roll but their are 4 more just like him. I think we will respect anyone we come into contact with after dealing with Greenville and J County. And this Senior group was a bit docile until a couple of weeks ago and now they have the taste of blood in their mouths and crave more. Stacy Carter seems to be on roll in the inovation dept. and at this point in the game he (and company) are creating some offensive wizadry. I hope the game is clean and no one is injured. I also see the same template as Elizabethton. Go Rebels!

So Pless was from outside the system?