WrestlingGod

You think this is the first time this has happened? Where the CLEAR second best team in the state has caught the first best team in the state first round (or second round before they stupidly added a sectional)? Go ask Hamm about that. It happened to Wilson Central two or three years in a row.

The issue is the seeding criteria needs to change. The issue is you shouldn't seed a team this year based first and foremost on last years finish. I know Pete as well and I'm sure hes saying something to the effect of "we face them in the finals or we face them first round, doesnt matter to us, we'll beat them no matter what round etc" He's a winner and that's his mindset. I coached under him with that program for 5 or so years. He's a great coach and good guy. Venues have changed, tournament formats have changed, now its time we band together and change this as well. Can someone, anyone, give me one single reason why Halls or Dobyns Bennett should be seeded above Summit that doesn't include "they finished higher than them last year at the state tournament last year"?

We aren't talking about the individual tournament. We're talking about a team tournament where the dynamic and structure of the teams are different each year. The point stands with the Dobyns Bennett example. However, that said, I think there are other criteria that should go before previous years results in the individual tournament. Head to head being one of them.

I think my biggest issue is using last years results to seed this years teams. Take DB for instance, they lose two of their best wrestlers one being a state champ. They're not the same team this year they were last year and shouldnt be seeded based off last years team.

It’s done and can’t be changed but the criteria solely just off the year before. Not the previous 5.

Is division mentioned in the criteria? Since head to head isn’t why couldn’t Halls have been 1 and Cleveland 2? if you want to be absolutely technical Halls won theirs before Cleveland did.

It matters for the kids who put hours in the road and weight room. It matters to the parents who poured money into their kids and the Summit program. It matters to the rest of the community who supported them through their lows and celebrated their highs. A fair draw always matters. it may not matter to you but to be honest I don’t give a sh** what matters to you and what doesn’t.

I’m very well aware of how it’s seeded. I’m saying it’s not done right. Also, “butthurt” is a reach. Every person who’s followed the sport in any capacity this year can tell you that match in the first round is wrong.

They SHOULD be on the other side…if Tssaa actually gave a s*** about wrestling and seeded this thing the way it should be seeded.

I’m not sure I’ve seen a draw this bad ever. Another reason why these things need to be sat down and seeded properly.

State finals in round 1

I’ve been advised it has happened before. When I asked when I was told, “heck a few times”. we’ll see tomorrow probably. Monday at the latest id guess.

I think we’re more likely to have two from the same region on the same side before they remove the ones who actually get seeds.

Db is on the bottom. They’ll be seeded 3. For sure. Before anything else they’ll make sure the ones who are seeded will be.

Apologies . You’re 100% right. It’s Saturday night and I’m a couple beers in . So Cleveland on top. Dobyns Bennett, Knox Halls and Bradley on bottom. Brentwood and Summit 50/50 and Arlington and Bartlett 50/50

It’ll be Cleveland, Science Hill, and Maryville guaranteed on top. Knox Halls, Dobyns Bennett and Bradley Central guaranteed on bottom. Summit and Brentwood is 50/50 and Arlington and Bartlett is 50/50.

Summit didn’t medal last year. The only criteria is that threyre separated from Brentwood.

Cleveland 1 seed. Halls 2 seed. DB 3 seed. I think we may see the state finals in top half. It’s a 50/50 shot. Summit could very well be on the top half with Cleveland.

Summit over Cookeville 63-9

Summit and Cookeville Saturday on the other said of that

Idc who fft to whom. I’m saying this isn’t the first time one of them fft to the other in the regional finals.

So if someone doesn't defend Cleveland you target them for no reason. Got it. This is a new low.

There wasn't a reply to this. You called Brad out out of the blue for absolutely no reason. We're all fine playing into your dialogue about Cleveland but going out of your way to start fights with someone who wasn't a part of your quarrel to begin with is childish and petty. Btw, Brad has an outstand reputation with the Cleveland staff. Do better.

This is just getting ridiculous at this point. Do the entire board a favor and just go away. You're picking fights with people for absolutely no reason at all.

I don’t think this is an uncommon occurrence for these two.