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No, thanks. First and foremost, I don't think FRA should be dragged into this mess and frankly took offense when TNMan11 did so with his comments. I was going to call TnMan11 on his incorrect statement about why McGugin left FRA if Florabama had not. This is an MBA matter, not an FRA matter. And I certainly don't want FRA to participate in the autosarcophagy we have witnessed by MBA supporters on this thread and the other two (The Truth and MBA Coaching Candidates) for the past week. Second, my child did not play football at FRA. I did not attend any football practices when McGugin was there. So I cannot offer any personal parental perspective on him as a coach other than from watching football games as a spectator. I thought his teams were well prepared and that he made good on-field decisions and adjustments (BTW--I was at both the 2009 MBA playoff wins against the more talented (in my judgment) Ensworth and BA teams and thought that the MBA staff out-coached the Ensworth and BA staff in both games). My child had McGugin for history one semester and enjoyed him as a teacher. Sorry, but if you are looking for someone to deflect this thread away from MBA, I'm not your huckleberry. I was not surprised when McGugin left for MBA. I always thought he would. When the was hired by FRA, I told a good friend of mine who was at the time on the MBA Board Athletics Committee: " Please let me me know in advance when you guys decide to hire our football coach away from us". Since I did not have a child who was directly affected by it, I also was not greatly upset when it happened. Now let's get back on topic ...............

Flash: I don't think FloraBama was referring to you in his post. It was actually TnMan11 who said (incorrectly) that McGugin been fired at FRA (his words were "These are the same reasons he lost his job at FRA."), among other comments, to which you responded "Well, said". Florabama replied to your post, but his response was actually to what TnMan11 had stated. As you can see, Florabama is a "newbie", having just joined us, probably thinks that you must respond to posts in the order in which they are made, which vets like us know is not the case, so let's not come down on him with both feet just yet.

Classic. One of the all-time great posts ever made on this message board. Mykidsdad----how does one get in touch with you? I would like to discuss purchasing the T-shirt/bumper sticker rights from you in return for a hefty royalty payment. I think there is a lot of money to be made here. Of course, all royalty payments will be delivered to you anonymously, by cashiers check, in a unmarked envelope, so you do not have to report it and can just turn the money over to your wife for household expenses and the like. I believe that the IRS statute of limitations for failure to report is seven years. But, if you ever think you are about to get caught, it is my understanding that if you self-report the income, the IRS will go light on the penalties and interest, take your word for it, and not investigate the matter further, provided that you make your spouse walk the plank and go to jail for you. Just make sure your kids do not fight amongst themselves over whether or not she is a fit mother and hope she goes along with it and does not respond with threats of divorce. If that happens, it may become a nasty public spat.

Since you are apparently from Williamson County, I assume you must be referring to someplace in Williamson County, like maybe BA. But, wait a minute, didn't MBA beat BA for the state title when Rutledge was coach and again under McGugin? Or maybe you are thinking of one of those large new public schools you have out there, like Ravenwood. But they got beat in football last year by D-II small school FRA ---coached by MBA alum David Pack. So, maybe the job you are thinking of is not in that high dollar county after all. Could you enlighten us as to where that "much better" job might be.

So far, except for the Maryville reference, this looks pretty much like a list of the Best High School Football Coaches In Mid-State History. Any list of best coaches in "State" history would have to include legendary Chattanooga Central Coach E. B. "Red" Etter-----otherwise, it is not going to be worth the ink it takes to print it.

I'll beat BBB to the punch and post this article from this morning's Chattanoogan.com-------a well deserved honor for Coach Morgan. Jim Morgan Earns National Coach of the Year Honors by B.B. Branton/Luther Killian posted April 29, 2010 Two months after announcing his retirement as Baylor wrestling coach and Jim Morgan is still receiving awards. Coach Morgan's latest accolade is national co-coach of the year as selected by WrestlingUSA magazine. The 72-year-old Chattanooga native guided Baylor to its ninth state traditional championship in the Morgan Era (the past 25 years) in February. In his quarter century at the Red Raider helm (1986-2010), the stats are impressive; 539 wins, nine state traditional titles, six state dual championships and 60 state champions. "This is a great honor and I am pleased, yet humbled to have been selected," said Morgan who learned of the honor while attending a McCallie alumni wrestling dinner Wednesday night. "The award is a credit to my coaching staff and wrestlers during this season and past years as well." Morgan, who wrestled at McCallie in the mid-1950s, also was an assistant coach for his alma mater for five years (1963-66, 1968) before taking over as head coach at Tennessee at Chattanooga for the 1968-69 season. Thirty former McCallie wrestlers from the 1960s honored Morgan with the dinner as attendees came from Connecticut, Minnesota, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia as well as several from the Chattanooga area. Two-time Mid South champion Garnet Chapin and two-time national prep champion and former UTC wrestler Jim Glasser both stated that after their father, coach Morgan has been the most influential male in their lives. "I was touched that so many of my former wrestlers came back as it was a special evening," Morgan stated. He was at UTC for 16 years (1969-1984) and led the Mocs to 203 wins, an NCAA D-II second and third place national finish with 13 All-Americans and six NCAA D-II national champions. He was NCAA D-II wrestling coach of the year once. Recognized over the years for his contributions to the sport as a wrestler, official, coach (Red Bank Jr. High, McCallie, UTC and Baylor) and tournament director, Morgan is a member of the Greater Chattanooga and Baylor School Sports Hall of Fame as well as a charter member of the Tennessee Chapter of the National Wrestling Hall of Fame. No coach could accomplish this much without a superb knowledge of wrestling, but Morgan's gifts go well beyond technique and training. He has been a mentor, an inspiration to countless young men and women in sports and in the classroom for 50 years. No fewer than four wrestlers have gone on to become head wrestling coaches. Those who are fortunate to know coach Morgan as a teacher, coach, colleague or friend know his genuine love of people and that he relates to all with integrity, compassion, humility and wisdom. Beloved by parents who trust their sons and daughters in his care, he is a positive role model in the classroom, on the mat and on the track. He has been a dynamic icon for the sport of wrestling and even though he is retired from active coaching, Morgan will continue to be a mentor to coaches and wrestlers who are wise enough to see his advice and counsel. Asked what are the keys to success in wrestling, he stated, "dedication, hard work and make sure you shoot the half." Contact B.B. Branton at william.branton@comcast.net

I almost feel like I should email a friend of mine who is on the Board of Trustees of a private school in Wichita, tell him to sign up as a Plus Member on CoachT, get a screen name, and start reading all the posts under this topic. I don't have the heart to tell him what a can of worms they are about to open and that the "fun" has only just begun.......................... Posted on Fri, Mar. 26, 2010 Private Kansas high school teams may face tougher competition BY JOANNA CHADWICK The Wichita Eagle A survey of Kansas high school administrators by the state's governing body for high school sports found that many think private schools have an unfair advantage over public schools. So the Kansas State High School Activities Association's board of directors will consider two proposals next month that would either make private schools compete by themselves in postseason play or make them compete at a higher enrollment level. No immediate changes are likely, but proponents of the changes say the discussion is important. Either change would radically alter the structure of the KSHSAA's current classification system. "This would be one of the most significant deviations from the way we've done business in the past," said Bill Faflick, athletic director for the City League, which is the city's seven public high schools that have athletics plus parochial schools Bishop Carroll and Kapaun Mount Carmel. Of the two proposals, the one seemingly more popular would move private schools up one classification. Carroll, with 819 students in grades 10-12 this year, and Kapaun, with 667, would move from Class 5A to 6A, where the smallest school this year has 1,066 students. A private school such as Wichita Trinity Academy, a small Class 4A school, would move up to 5A. "We have only about 300 students, and now we're competing against schools that have 900?" said Trinity headmaster/principal Matt Brewer. "We can't play football against Hutchinson. We'd be putting kids at risk." Clay Center principal Mike Adams, a board of directors member who helped draft the proposal, said it would equalize schools, especially because private schools aren't limited to the same boundaries as public schools. "We have to take the kids that walk through our doors," Adams said. In Classes 4A, 3A and 2A, the public schools are rural while the private schools come from urban areas. Trinity is part of the Central Plains League with the Independent School and eight rural schools. The second proposal is more dramatic with seemingly less chance of passing. It puts the state's 26 private schools into their own playoff structure in all sports. It also divides Class 4A into two divisions, essentially creating 11 postseason classes for football and eight for all other sports. States such as Texas and Tennessee have separate public and private state championships, but each has around 300 private schools. "I think it would be unfair to put the 26 schools together and have us supposedly play Berean Academy," Carroll president Tish Nielsen said. Berean Academy, in Elbing, is a 2A school with 103 students in its three upper grades. But many public schools don't think it's fair to compete against private schools. "I think it's become more of an issue in the past 10 years," said Campus principal Myron Regier, who is on the KSHSAA board of directors. Possible explanations include increased emphasis on high school athletics, earning college scholarships and winning state championships. Private schools, which make up 7 percent of the association's member schools, are successful at tournament time. In the current school year, Wichita Collegiate has won Class 3A titles in football, volleyball, girls tennis and boys basketball. At the Class 5A girls basketball tournament, three of the final four teams were private schools, and the boys 5A title was won by Bishop Miege, in Roeland Park. Private schools counter that plenty of public schools have similar traditions — Heights became the first school in the state's largest classification to play for a title in football and boys and girls basketball, and Hutchinson has won six straight football titles. "Of everything completed so far (this school year), privates have won almost 32 percent of all championships, and many public schools feel that private schools have an advantage," Clay Center's Adams said. 2006 comparison In 2006, the KSHSAA created a committee that studied the private-public issue. The main finding was that private schools "earn a disproportionate percentage of postseason final eight, final four and championship game opportunities when compared to public schools." "A lot of people thought we stopped short —'You need to go ahead and do something about it,' " KSHSAA executive director Gary Musselman said. Yet the focus on state championships concerns some. "If that's how programs are being evaluated, they're missing the mark," Faflick said. "(Sports is) for connecting kids to school, teaching life lessons, teaching teamwork, discipline. All are evident if they win or lose at the end of the year." Gardner-Edgerton principal Tim Brady, part of the proposal to split private schools from championships, is frustrated watching private schools dominate. He links that dominance to recruiting. Allegations of recruiting and private schools giving athletic scholarships to entice top athletes often crop up. But Musselman said he has found no evidence of recruiting in his 22 years on the job. Carroll's Nielsen is distressed at the questions of recruiting. "I don't want them to question our integrity," she said. "I want them to know we're following the rules and guidelines." Long road to change It is doubtful that April's board of directors meeting will be more than a discussion. If the board of directors votes to agree to either of the proposals — or comes up with its own proposal — there are still hurdles. A majority of the board would have to vote to put it on the agenda for its next meeting, in September, and a majority of all schools in all classes must approve it. Discussion is fine with DeSoto principal David Morford, who was part of the proposal for splitting public and private championships. "It's getting talked about. That's our goal,'' he said. "We don't necessarily have the right answer, but we want to have the dialogue with everybody to have a solution that's workable to everybody."

Thanks HS. They used to also pick an All-Mid State Team for each Division , I ( Large and Small) and II, and coach of the year and official of the year. Do they still do that and, if so, do you know the whole slate?

reftn: Has this been posted yet? Maybe i missed it, but I don't recall seeing it anywhere ( including the local fishwrap here in Nashville)

BB: Cheryl Tieg?? Why wouldn't Chuck want to bring his long-time huckster for The Total Gym, partner Christie Brinkley, instead of Cheryl? She is a good bit younger than Cheryl and much stronger as a result of The Total Gym. Is there a rift in the working relationship between Chuck and Christie that you know of but we don't? Goodness knows, outside of Bear Cat Brown, you are the most likely of our posters to be privy to "celebrity" gossip.

Thoughts on the state tournaments from this morning's Times Free Press ( Ward Gossett reporting): Franklin gets solid reviews Thursday, February 25, 2010 By:Ward Gossett (Contact) There are no guarantees that the state wrestling tournaments will remain in Franklin at the Williamson County Agricultural Expo, but the TSSAA was more than satisfied this year. "I thought both tournaments were fantastic," said Mark Reeves, the TSSAA assistant director who oversees wrestling. "Specifically on the dual tournament, I can't imagine a better venue. Everybody was comfortable and everybody had good sight lines." The state association moved out of Clarksville for the state duals and left Chattanooga's McKenzie Arena, which had hosted the traditional state tournament for 24 consecutive years. There are kinks to work out with the traditional tournament. "The positives would be the central location and the facility having plenty of room," Reeves said. "We were able to put down 10 mats, which helps out and gives us a little margin for error for staying on schedule." The crowd was small for the duals finals, which had staggered start times for Division I Class A/AA, Division II and Class AAA, but attendance figures were up by about 200 for each tournament according to early numbers generated by the TSSAA. Moving to the Agricultural Expo allowed the TSSAA to charge a $5 parking fee and keep 80 percent of that. The other 20 percent went to Centennial High band boosters for overseeing the parking. Even conservative estimates would figure the TSSAA covered its biggest expense. According to Reeves, the association paid about $11,000 for 26 referees and other tournament workers. The coaches seemed to be pleased with the Ag Expo. "The restrooms were always clean, and I also like the wide-open space on the floor," Science Hill coach Jeff Price said. "The security people were much more friendly (than those at McKenzie Arena). They checked our wristbands and let us go. One of them even apologized for asking me to move behind the ropes (on the main floor)." Price felt there was a "packed-in like cordwood" atmosphere at McKenzie, which he didn't miss until the finals of this year's traditional tournament. "The finals weren't as intense," he said. "I thought everything was great with the exception of the finals, which were very bland," Red Bank Ben Reichel said. "There was no special lighting, no music, no excitement, and there is no possible way to arrange the mats appropriately for all to see and create a tight atmosphere." Ooltewah coach Wendell Weathers said there were "far more positives than negatives. The facility is fairly new and it was impressively clean, and that included the restrooms. The seating was comfortable." Fans, coaches and wrestlers could see the match board in plenty of time to move if they wanted to, but one of the major pluses was parents being able to bring in food for wrestlers. "Everybody liked the fact that you could bring in your own food instead of being forced to buy from arena vendors," Weathers said. The arena was virtually empty except for one corner for the Class AAA state duals finals, and fans at both tournaments were farther away from the mats than at Clarksville or McKenzie Arena. "I like the Ag for the duals and UTC for the individual (tournament)," McCallie coach Gordon Connell said. "Chattanooga is the mecca of Tennessee wrestling with the best teams in the state every year in each division, so it felt like the numbers were down." Connell thought the mats for the championship finals in each division were too far apart, which added to the feeling of a general lack of excitement. Moving the traditional back to Chattanooga was among Connell's preferences, but he wasn't alone. Al Miller, former head coach at Cleveland and now an assistant for the Blue Raiders, has been to every state tournament but one since 1968 as a wrestler or coach. He has been to Brainerd, Notre Dame, UTC's Maclellan Gym and McKenzie Arena, Nashville-area sites Lipscomb, Two Rivers, Overton, Glencliff and Hillwood and now Franklin. "I won't lie. I missed McKenzie," he said. "I missed the atmosphere and many of the (Chattanooga-area) wrestling fans that always came to the state tournament. I just don't see Nashville having those fans, and Nashville not having a team competing for the championship hurt the crowd size and atmosphere of the tournament." Added Greenback coach Justin Ridge: "I liked (the venue) until the finals. It wasn't as exciting. The crowd seemed small. It was quiet." There is a feeling among some of the coaches, a concern expressed by Christian Brothers' Chris Lewis, that Chattanooga no longer wanted the tournament. "I enjoyed Chattanooga and McKenzie, but it was obvious they did not want us," he said. He doesn't miss the hassle with security personnel about wrestlers bringing in food or the tournament or having to shift from the regular Thursday-Saturday time to Wednesday-Friday to accommodate UTC basketball and a possible Mocs game telecast. "The arena floor was bigger and it was easier to move around (at the Ag Expo)," Lewis said. "Only problems were that I couldn't see Division I finals -- they were too far away -- and there were no shower facilities for the kids. Also, the lighting was poor." There are issues to address if the TSSAA decides to return to Franklin. "I can tell you that the Williamson County folks and coaches and volunteers would like to see us back and that we had a great experience there," Reeves said. "We have a learning curve on our end in making sure all of our ducks are in a row prior to getting started. Another negative, and it's fixable, is the mats for the finals being too far apart. It is a decision to make if we're back in that facility."

Report on coaches meeting filed by Ward Gossett in this morning's Chatt Times Free Press------finally possible good news on the double elimination issue: FRANKLIN, Tenn. -- A separate division for small schools, one similar to that of the A/AA state duals, was among proposals presented Saturday morning at the annual meeting of the Tennessee Wrestling Coaches Association. "I really don't think it has much of a chance. The TSSAA addressed that when they established the A/AA duals," TWCA president Steve Henry said. There is a possibility because of the enhanced size of the current facility, the Williamson County Agricultural Expo, where 10 mats were used this weekend. Some of the A/AA coaches see no reason to change. "I personally wish we (Division I and Division II) were still in one tournament," Red Bank coach Ben Reichel said. "We're one state. We should have one state champion (in each weight class). If they want to continue having separate (team) championships, then keep the scores separately. Notre Dame coach John Mullin, whose team won 2006-08 A/AA state duals titles, feels the change is unnecessary. "I think it would diminish from the current state tournament," he said. The TWCA recognizes an A/AA team champion from the traditional tournament, paying for a championship plaque. Greenback has taken that title the past two seasons. An expected proposal which should carry more weight, especially with the additional room, is changing the tournaments to double elimination. "I think we'll have that next year," Henry said. Coaches also are going to take a look at realigning the 14 weight classes. There are three proposals floating around, including one that would make 110 pounds the lightest weight as opposed to the current 103-pound classification. Two of the proposals emphasize additional classes in the upper weights. Division II coaches spent much of their morning meeting considering changes to seeding criteria for their tournament. .........................................................................................................................................

Cup: If you have not found it already this morning, here is BB Branton's expert analysis of last night's finals matches, culled from his full article on the tournament at Chattanoogan.com. ............................................................................................... Led by six state champions, Baylor rallied in the championship finals to win its 13th TSSAA state traditional wrestling championship Saturday night at the Williamson County Agricultural Expo in Franklin. The Red Raiders under coach Jim Morgan had 282 points, while runner-up McCallie had two champions and 277 points. ................................................................................................ 103: Mike Akers (Father Ryan) dec. John Olson (BGA), 9-2 Two ninth graders going for their first title; Akers has first takedown 45 seconds into the match; escape Olsen (2-1); takedown (2) Akers, 4-1; 2nd period; escape Olsen (4-2); takedown Akers (3) 6-2; 3rd; Akers escape, 7-2; takedown Akers (9-2); Akers dec. Olson, 9-2 Ryan’s third, 103-pound champion following Cole Moseley and Whitt Dunning 112: Alex Ward (McCallie) dec. Cole Moseley (Father Ryan), 7-6 ultimate tie-break Cole’s uncle, Chris, was a two-time state champ; Moseley gets first takedown, 2-0; caution Ryan (1); 2nd; Moseley down; escape, 3-0; takedown Ward, 3-2; warning stalling against Ward; locked hands and Moseley escapes, leads 5-2 ; 3rd; Ward down; Ward reverse, 5-4; Moseley given escape, 6-4; Ward pushing the action; Ward has takedown in last seconds, to tie it 6-6; OT; no score; 2 OT; Ward down; caution Ryan (2); Ward does not get out; 3 OT Moseley down; no change; 4 OT; Moseley down sudden death; Ward holds him and wins in sudden death As good a final as one will see; lots of drama; early vote for best match Ward knocks off No. 2 Calloway in semis ; beat No. 1 seed and defending champ Moseley in final to win it. “The keys to my win were I feel that I was in better shape and I pushed the action the entire match,’’ said Ward. “I lived with coach Mike Newman for the past three weeks and he helped me control my diet and helped with my conditioning,’’ said Ward Ward dec. Moseley, 7-6 in ultimate tie break; Ward won two of three meetings this year 119: Zach Watson (Baylor) dec. Tim Westbrooks (McCallie), 8-6 Watson takedown, 2-0; 2nd; Watson down; Westbrooks turns him for 3-2 lead; Watson reverse, 4-3; Watson wins 8-6; Watson won both meetings this year “I am not in good wrestling shape and didn’t wrestle well tonight,’’ said Watson. 125: Alex Manley (Baylor) dec. Kaleb Baker (Christian Brothers), 7-6 Baker gets opening takedown, 2-0; Manley stands, warning on Baker (1); escape Manley, 2-1; warning Baker (2), 2-2; Manley takedown, leads 4-2; warning Manley (1); 2nd; Baker down and Manley riding tough; warning stalling Baker (3), 5-2; caution Manley (1); escape Baker, 5-3; 3d; Manley down; warning Manley (2); point Baker, 5-4; escape Manley, 6-4; 1:09 remaining; Baker takedown, 6-6 :53.5 remaining; Manley escape, 7-6; Manley wins his first title; Manley wins, 7-6, joining his dad (Tim) and brother (Spencer) as state champs; Alex is 178-13 for a career 130: Daniel Baucke (Christian Brothers) pinned Turner Martin (McCallie), 3:11 No takedown in first period; 2nd; Baucke down; Baucke reverse; Baucke pins in 3:11 Baucke ends high school career with three titles; 2007-09-10; 177-8; school record holder in wins 135: Alex Johnson (Christian Brothers ) dec. Michael Hooker (McCallie), 3-2 Two state champs meet for title; No score in first; 2nd; Hooker down; no action; stalemate; Hooker gains reverse, 2-0; Johnson escape, 2-1; 3rd; Johnson down; penalty point against Hooker for throw, 2-2; 1:19 remaining; :18 remaining; warning Hooker (1); :08; caution Hooker (1); Johnson escapes in final two seconds for 3-2 win; exciting match 140: Stuart Doster (Baylor) dec. Mick Anthony (Christian Brothers), 7-3 Doster takedown, 2-0; escape Anthony, 2-1; Doster takedown, 4-1; 2nd; Doster leads 7-2; 3rd; escape Anthony, 7-3; Doster wins, 7-3; his third title; goes for his fourth next year as a senior 145: Zach Johnson (Christian Brothers) major dec. Trey Stavrum (Baylor), 11-3 two seniors in final high school match, each going for first state medal; Johnson gains first takedown, 2-0; caution Johnson (1); caution Johnson (2); Johnson down; Johnson escape an then sweet ankle pick, 5-0; escape Stavrum, 5-1; Johnson has foot sweep for takedown, 7-1; 3rd; Johnson leads, 9-3; takedown Johnson, 11-3; Johnson wins by major, 11-3; now has a title to go with the two his brother, Alex, has. Stavrum, who came back from a broken ankle in mid-Dec., ends his career as a five-time medalist (4-6-6-3-2) joining Lee Connell, Ryan Scott and Jordan Leen with five medals. 152: T.J. Duncan (McCallie) major dec. Tony Downs (Christian Brothers), 11-1 Duncan goes for his fourth title; he beat Downs on injury default earlier this season; Duncan has first takedown, 2-0, 1:07 into the period; 2-pt near fall, 4-0; followed by another, 6-0; 2nd; Duncan down; caution Duncan (1); Duncan stands and stalling on Downs, 7-0; escape, 8-0; 3rd; Duncan down; Duncan escape, 9-0; Duncan takedown, 11-0; escape Downs, 11-1; Duncan gives the four of five hand sign after the win. “To win my fourth with a chance at five means everything to me,’’ said Duncan. “ I’ve worked my whole life for this. I have worked hard this year and felt confident in the match. The toughest of the four was winning the first as an eighth grader.” 160: Daniel Todd (MBA) dec. Chase Martino (McCallie), 5-2 Todd gets initial takedown, 2-0; Martino works for reverse but Todd holds him off; 2nd; Todd down; Todd escapes on edge of mat, 3-0; Todd warning (1); 3rd; a scramble for takedown but nothing time running out Martino takedown, trails, 3-2; Todd reverse, 5-2 ; :22 remaining; Todd wins his first title 171: Wes Wesley (Father Ryan) dec. Nate Rupiper (Christian Brothers), 5-1 Wesley gets initial takedown, 2-0; 2nd; Wesley down; escape, 3-0; followed by second takedown, 5-0; 3rd; Rupiper escape, 5-1; Wesley wins his third title “Winning the third title today is the toughest of the three, since I was the favorite,’’ said Wesley. ‘ ‘ The other two finals I had lost to my opponent earlier and came back to win in the traditional.’’ 189: Mac Ferguson (Baylor) dec. Will Mix (Father Ryan), 1-0 No score in first; 2nd; Ferguson down; Ferguson escape, 1-0; 3rd; Mix down; stalling Mix (1); Ferguson riding tough; :19 remaining; Ferguson rides out for win; Baylor trails McCallie, 277-274, with two matches remaining. 215: David Helton (Baylor) dec. Ricky Fisher (Father Ryan), 7-1 Helton takedown, leads 2-1; stalling Fisher (1); caution Fisher (1); 2nd; Helton down; reverse, 4-1; stalling Fisher (2), 5-1; 3rd; Fisher takes neutral; Helton takedown, 7-1 Helton’s win and four team points secure the team title for Baylor; Red Raiders lead, 278-277 with one the the 285 pound final remaining. 285: John Mackey (Baylor) Dylan Maxwell (Briarcrest) No score in first; 2nd; Mackey down, escape, 1-0; takedown to Maxwell’s back, 6-0; escape Maxwell, 6-1; 3rd; Maxwell down; Mackey scores 3-pt near fall, 9-1; escape Maxwell, 9-2; Maxwell takedown, 9-4; escape Mackey, 10-4; warning stalling on both wrestlers; Mackey takedown and wins, 10-5 Baylor wins 282-277 against McCallie. Four-Timer: T.J. Duncan’s win makes him the seventh, four-time state champ; Duncan is a junior; The previous six, in order, Martin Francis (Notre Dame), Philip Simpson (MBA), Matt Keller (Bradley Central), Ryan Scott (McCallie), Jordan Leen (Baylor) and Bailey Whitaker (Baylor) Five-Time Medalist: Baylor’s Trey Stavrum is the most recent D-II five-time medalist; others include Lee Connell (McCallie,4-2-2-1-1) Ryan Scott (McCallie,3- 1-1-1-1), Jordan Leen (Baylor,3- 1-1-1); Stavrum recovered from a broken ankle in mid-December and took second in the state (4-6-6-3-2).

McCallie has taken over the lead after this morning's action and heads into tonight's final with a ten point lead----268 t0 258 according to the announcer at the venue. CBHS is in third with I think 236.5, with Ryan 4th. With Baylor having three at 189, 215, and 285, and McCallie's last man at 160, McCallie will need to increase its lead to more than 12 points through 160. If not, it will looks like D-II will be decided by Baylor's big men. Should be a heck of a championship round tonight in D-II.

Great job, BB. How the heck to you come up with stuff like the second four time winner, Phillip Simpson (MBA), and his dad have the same middle names ( Martin and Francis) as the first ever four timer , Martin Francis. I am surprised you did not add that when Simpson won his record tying fourth title, Francis was on hand and awarded Simpson his first place medal. And if memory serves me, it happened in the Father Ryan gym, MBA's arch-rival and, back when Francis wrestled, EFT's arch rival as well. You are slipping, man. thanks, I had forgotten about Martin being there to present Philip with his fourth thanks for the reminder. Coach Frank Simpson told me about the name connection a decade ago. b.b.b. A now bald-headed former Notre Dame -Sewanee wrestler told me to keep you on your toes.

Great job, BB. How the heck to you come up with stuff like the second four time winner, Phillip Simpson (MBA), and his dad have the same middle names ( Martin and Francis) as the first ever four timer , Martin Francis. I am surprised you did not add that when Simpson won his record tying fourth title, Francis was on hand and awarded Simpson his first place medal. And if memory serves me, it happened in the Father Ryan gym, MBA's arch-rival and, back when Francis wrestled, EFT's arch rival as well. You are slipping, man.

Wrong, hes fine, saw him today. Doesnt matter, even a sick Croy takes 215. Stop nit picking other peoples predictions and do your own. Your ways to address me are futile. I will not stand for this. CROY WILL LOSE. Freestyle, be careful buddy, you can get arrested for smoking that stuff.

ANIMAL is Vandergriff? Wow, he sure picked an appropriate screen name. Didn't he wrestle Man Mountain Ronald Hale or that beast from Kirkman? I am going to go with Jim Hennen having a daughter who married a guy named Jackson and had a son who wrestled for ANIMAL------anything that will keep me from having contradicted him and causing him hunt me up at the tournament this weekend.

Animal: The heavyweight (then known as the unlimited weight class) champion in 1961 was Jim Hennen of Notre Dame ( otherwise known by BCB as EFT). Is his grandson currently wrestling for you and, if so, any chance he qualified for the state tournament? I ask because I think----and I am sure BB will correct me if I am wrong on this----the 215 for Baylor this year, David Helton, one of the favorites at 215 in D-II, is the son of Hennen's younger ( by a lot, she may not have even been born the year he won) sister, Mary.

Truth: As a relative newbie to this board ( 9-4-09, 48 posts), you will soon learn that you will always get more than you wanted to know, and most times stuff you don't want to know, and in some cases stuff you shouldn't know, when you make a post on this board. You will almost never get only what you wanted to know. Bayou Bear: There is a Best Western, with a Waffle House and a Steak and Shake, at the Franklin/Highway 96 exit, first one going north, 5 minutes away. The concession stand will provide chili dogs and burgers. So, it looks like your needs are covered. You really are the dream of every woman as I have been told-------a low maintenance man. Be careful if you turn the spouse loose in the Cool Springs area. Frankenwood, as we Nashvillians call the Franklin/Brentwood area, is an expensive place to spend your hard earned dough and they like taking it.

check the Williamson Co. Chamber of Commerce. or google Cool Springs mall or Cool Springs Galleria. Just another thought Columbia is just about 20 miles south of the event down I-65 just another place to look. Those area will be your best bets. There are three exits going north on I-65 from the Ag Center exit. The first is the Franklin exit at Hwy 96, about 5 speed limit minutes way. The next is the Cool Springs/Galleria Boulevard ( there are actually two exits here), about 5 minutes more, and the next is the Brentwood/Old Hickory Boulevard Exit, maybe 7 minutes more. All will have some motels around the exit areas. Going South, Columbia is about 20 minutes away. There may be some closer along the interstate around the Spring Hill exit. Probably the closest and best bet is something at the Franklin/Highway 96 exit.

For those who have not been there yet, the ag center has its own website-----there are links that will show you the layout of the main arena where the wrestling will take place : http://www.williamsoncounty-tn.gov/index.aspx?nid=594

Great job Bayou. You are spot on in every instance.

Bayou Bear: Please update this list. We have had two more pages of posts since you provided this. Your Cliff Notes version of the posts is much quicker to read and more humorous.