well i was on both of those father ryan teams, and i would have to say that the 01-02 team was better. the toughest game of the playoffs is the sectional game in memphis. doesn't matter how we beat harding, so what that i hit a three in OT, but last year, no D-II team could argue with us. we beat every D-II we played, no matter how close or how bad we beat them, we won. that's tough to do. and you said we only had me last year, and that if you shut down me you win. well we only lost 2 games, won 30, so either i never got shut down(which i did) or we had a great team with players that could step up when needed. so until harding actually makes it to the finals and wins, they are pretenders, MBA and Ryan own D-II right now. records now don't mean anything, MBA will be there at the end like always, and everybody in the West will start talking about how good their team is gonna be next seaons. the cycle just keeps on repeating itself, while Ryan probably grabs another state title.