loefan, We are not talking about supporting the team here.We are talking about the out come of the Clay Co./Clarkrange game. My kids graduated from Clarkrange and I have supported the school for many years. What I am asking you to do is look at the record and then tell me why I should expect to see Clarkrange win this game. Since coming to Clarkrange tell me how Pile has improved these teams. First, he had the Thompson kid and the guard that thought he was so good (can't think of his name) for two years, plus good supporting players. Then he had the group that just graduated which had three good players since they were freshmen and they never improved any. He has Laws this year which has not improved any,Snow which has not improved any to speak of,and Upchurch that can be a great player, but will not improve any under this system. I'm not talking about supporting a team. I'm asking you to look at the records with an open mind and tell me why I should expect this team to win. You can't do things the same way for years and expect different results.