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Thanks to the moderators for closing the thread. Nothing to be gained. We value our athletic relationship with Baylor. They have an outstanding program and we enjoy the sometimes heated and always exciting competition between our two schools. Jim Morgan is an outstanding coach as is Gordon Connell. It seems the two athletic staffs seem to keep things in a better perspective than some of the supporters of both schools. Bill Cherry

Thanks to the moderators for closing the thread. Nothing to be gained. We value our athletic relationship with Baylor. They have an outstanding program and we enjoy the sometimes heated and always exciting competition between our two schools. Jim Morgan is an outstanding coach as is Gordon Connell. It seems the two athletic staffs seem to keep things in a better perspective than some of the supporters of both schools. Bill Cherry

Article III, Section 14, page 29: "A school team cannot practice with or scrimmage another school team until both schools have practiced a minimum of three days from the beginning practice date in each sport." "The first practice in pads is Monday of the week of August 1." That means the first scrimmages cannot take place until Thursday, Aug. 5. Ooops, oops, opps. The TSSAA number is (615) 889-6740.

Sorry, guys!

This thread has become a soap opera. CoachT or someone, it's time to end it! Much too personal.

Then why keep a team score in the Traditional tournament?

What about Smith who won at 140 and Blair who won at 145. What do you do with one of them if you allow Manley to have his way? Blair is a senior as well.

For bringing and keeping Bradley to/at the top of Tennessee wrestling. For being a class guy. For your contibutions to the sport in so many other ways than winning. And also a big thanks to Alan Jones!

The more appropriate term is "nonpublic". Any DI nonpublic moving to DII would not have to play any Super 7 team. In fact in Middle Tenn nothing would really change accept they would have BGA in the region. DII has a proposal before the Board of Control to have two classes in sports other than football. DII would flourish and this thread would die a graceful death!!

Per the TSSAA recruiting rule" 1. No private school employee may talk to a student or his parents about admission or financial aid unless the student and parents are on the campus for an official admissions visit. 2. If a private school coach is approached, say in the grocery store, by a prospective parent, the coach is to tell the parent that he cannot discuss his child's possible admission. He must contact the school's admissions office. This gets the coach off the hook. 3. The private schools' biggest "recruiters" are present or former parents, who tell friends about their positive experiences in the private school. 4. Most school's admissions "packet" includes the Princeton FA forms, or the parent must request the form. 5. Process: Parent requests admissions application from the school. They may also ask for the FA forms if they are not included in the packet. If there is an application submitted, an admissions test is scheduled. Many of the schools use the ERB as an admissions test. Grades from student's present school must be submitted. If the sudent is admitted, the parents must sign an admissions contract and pay a reservation fee to hold their place for the coming year. Usually the acceptance letter is issued before any discussion of financial aid. The FA report comes to the school with the information of how much is in the family budget for education. The school then has to determine how much they can help the family close the gap between what Princeton says they can pay and what the tuition costs are. Few private schools can meet the full need of a family. All schools are seeking academically gifted students and students who can cope successfully with the academic demands of the school. If a student is a proven athlete, artist or musician, this will certainly be in his favor when the school is making admissions decisions. The school generally does not make an admissions decision based on the family's ability to pay. Financial aid is separate from admissions. Once a student is admitted, the parents then have to deal with the financial arrangements.

Baldcoach- If a school does have a financial aid program (goes through Princeton), but denies it to a student because said student wants to participate in athletics, isn't that discrimination within your own school? What if a student has received aid in grades 6 - 8 and has participated in athletics. When he becomes a ninth-grader, you just cut him off because he wants to continue with athletics? Seems pretty cold-hearted. Exactly the reason some schools choose to be in DII... it's the principle. Don't believe in in-school discrimination. Parents should not be forced to make the choice of aid or athletics, especially if he(she) has been in the school for a number of years and recieved aid previously. Oh... me think that some DI privates have found other ways to skin the cat.

Someone explain why Tennessee is the ONLY state that discriminates against member schools because they are private and/or they have a need-based financial aid program? Georgia has state power Marist who for years has dominated 4A. There are over 20 private schools in Georgia that give need-based financial aid and there seems to be no problem. Georgia has instituted a 1.5 multiplier. Am not sure what makes Tennessee so unique. DII schools pay the same TSSAA fees as everyone else, yet they have been segregated. Some have to travel six hours to play a region game -- miss classes, chances of road accidents are greater, expenses more. Why? Because several years ago they began to win too many championships. Have always played under the same rules and regulations as everyone else. People use the term "level playing field". Well heck, Tennessee Tech and the Vols aren't on a level field because the Vols have more resources. That's life. Somebody come along and give Tennessee Tech football $20 million and they might soon be up there with the mighty Vols. Why punish Tennessee because Tech is not as strong?

DII schools cannot give "athletic scholarships". Please see TSSAA financial aid rule. DII schools cannot recruit athletes. Please see TSSAA recruiting rule. Please become more informed. No DII school is an "athletic scholarship school". Come on over to DII and be happy. No public/private debates. No rumors. No in-school discrimination, ala DI's give FA, but not to athletes -- worse kind of discrimination ever! Done by Christians too.

Come on over to DII and be happy. Don't have to listen to any public/private debates, misinformation or rumors any more. Few DII's would ever go back.

What a misguided, totally uninformed statement. Ignorance is the most violate element in our society.