dc2002

Im not a Central fan but was at the game Friday. They tried to throw about 10 times. The qb either got sacked, took off and ran, or made a bad throw. I think he completed one in the flat. Teams that dont have a good o-line run the veer because it gives the offense a chance if the defense guesses wrong, i.e. a few of the runs number 7 had and a few gives up the middle. If you are a coach, you would have seen while the option was the main attack, they did vary formations and mixed in other runs and passes. As far as the punt thing, you are wrong, NO ONE uses their O line to cover on punts...maybe d linemen, but mostly linebackers and skill players. You need people that tackle. Another thing, coach, if the dbs are 10 yards off the ball, it isnt because they are expecting run, they are trying not to get beat deep. I did see on the passes they attempted, they had people running wide open if the o line could have given the qb any time. Sounds like they need an o line coach. I nominate Ballcoach93

Meigs got beat by 1 player, lol. The qb from greenback that transferred from Alcoa threw 2 tds and ran 2. If he was 2nd string at Alcoa, I dont even want to see their first string qb. The kid looked like a man among boys. Meigs had more yards and time of possesion, but 4 turnovers that all led to scores both directly and indirectly. Ill be interested to see how they come out in week two. That'll tell me if they are improved or not.

I believe the qb threw 2 tds and ran for 2, Greenback had 35 points, he accounted for 28. I don't know how many yards he threw for, but the two tds alone made up 90. A lot of drives were stopped but that kid, broke away from 2 and 3 of meigs players and turned a broken play into a big play. He was BY FAR the difference. As far as Meigs qb, Ive seen him play better, this was not his best game, and we definitely cant blame it on the receivers, when the ball was overthrown several times way over the receivers head. I think he was just excited, probably with it being his first game at qb since being a freshman. He almost connected on one deep ball but was probably 3 yards too far. That was the prettiest ball of the night though, and then a receiver almost made a nice 1 handed catch on another one. Other than that, he was just off. He will recover, I have faith. The jitters should be gone! Overall, meigs just came out flat like they expected to win just by showing up, and when they were ready to play, it was too late. Two momentum breakers broke the comeback. The player that took the ball away from the qb while he was fighting for extra yards on a drive that would have cut into the lead, and the lightning delay after meigs scored and then defense went three and out and meigs started driving in the second half before the delay. Good luck to meigs down the road though, there is still time to regroup, and I think the qb will too.

They seemed to be much improved. If Rockwood was the first scrimmage, they lost 1td to none with the #1's in. The second scrimmage, I guess was midway if Im right, they tied(I think 2-2). I don't know how they did in the 3rd scrimmage. I think it was Coafield. As far as where they will finish, Im hoping 2nd or 3rd, but I didnt see the 3rd scrimmage to know if they continued to get better.

How does Meigs look going into season? I saw two scrimmages and looks like they have gotten considerably better. Anyone seeing practices and the last scrimmage with opinions?

Keyword you said is "if" coach was there. We are talking about kids throwing and running routes on their own after conditioning. They can do that at anytime even during the dead period.

The dead period just started Monday, so this is the first full week of the dead period. Before that, teams could lift weights and condition as long as its open to other sports also. If during the conditioning, the kids are running routes and trying to get ahead on this new offense, then great! They can even get together on their own over the dead period. (which I hope they are) I saw the kids throwing the ball around last week, and it did look good, "no balls on the ground". Before we jump to rules violations though, let's know the situation, the time period (dead period just started), and the rules.

I do admit we havent had the best of luck with longevity with coaches, BUT it cuts both ways. We have had coaches to leave for various reasons, and we as a community have to do a better job of understanding the situations. Sometimes the talent well does run dry for a spell and we tend to turn on the coach for not continually winning. We need to be better at understanding when we are young or rebuilding and be a part of that process and stick by the coach during the good and bad. I know this much about our community though, we support our team and our kids number one! So if Jones takes care of our kids and we win also, he will have a home for a long time.

NBC, I dont speak for the whole community, but for me and everyone i have spoken to that has met the coach and been around practices so far, they like the direction. Im sure you will be the very last person to jump on board no matter what. As far as throwingforsix, you say you know Jones track record. Maybe you know something I don't know and can enlighten me and everybody else on here. Looking at his history, he has been a head coach once, so no jumping around every 3 or 4 years. And it doesnt look like looking elsewhere was the problem when he was the head coach. He didnt take another coaching job, he moved to Texas. Maybe there is more than what is being written or said about him that you know personally. You say you don't know him, but you know his track record. Give us the record please, because we are definitely missing something! Meigs hasnt always been a bottom feeder and we wont continue to be. We will prove people like you wrong. I speak for many saying we will back Coach Jones and these kids and I personally believe we will get to where we need to be under his watch!

For someone with no dog in this fight, you sound like you know Jones pretty well. Atleast from the sound of your post. I don't see anything in his history that suggests he is going to jump from job to job, and by all accounts he is looking for a house in the county and would like to make this his home. If you are talking about coaches in general, then I understand your frustration with coaches leaving other programs, but for our sake, I think this guy is trying to find a home here in Meigs, and we will do whatever it takes to make him feel at home. I guess you can post what you said about every school that hires a coach in high school or college, but as far as the one we have right now, we believe in him and he has the full support of our community. Thanks for your concern, but I believe we have found a coach in Jones and he has found a home in Meigs!

NBC, you sound like you are VERY close to coach Holiday and have a lot of INSIDE information that the rest of us didnt know. So, Ill believe you that Holiday will get his chances elsewhere, and maybe that is a move he should consider if there is all that politics involved. Politics, I dont know personally if that's what's keeping him out of the head coaching job there, but if he, or you feel that way, I would definitely explore other options. Cause if there is politics involved, he will never get his chance, that you and he both believe he deserves. My advice for him and maybe you can pass this on, because it sounds like you do know him well, is to jump in with this coach and do whatever is needed, (whether it is defensive coordinator or just concentrating on the defensive line) and create a winner, because your star shines a whole lot brighter when you have some victories under your belt! Then Id look outside of the politics and let my record speak for itself!

I do think that Jones will need to keep both Holiday and Harris in big roles because they have been there with these kids and dealing with the community. I dont think he should do anything that compromises his system or his intensity for the game. Just from listening to him, I know he likes to blitz and disrupt plays on defense, and defense is his thing, so he may have more of a hand in that. But offensively and bringing in the new offense, he will probably have a huge hand in that too. I hope he is still bringing in some assistants that know his system and can teach it to the coaches and players in a relatively short time. GOOD LUCK to the program and GO TIGERS!!

I wasnt being sarcastic in saying I was glad he got an interview. Alot of the criticism on Baker was that he wasnt giving Holiday a chance, or an interview. He saw what he needed to see obviously in Spring Practice and also through an interview and made a different decision. I met Coach Jones along with the players the other day and it was a breath of fresh air. I think if he can get things done his way, he has a good vision for the boys. Now that a new coach is hired, are we ready to support him 100%? or does he have to treat Holiday with kid gloves since some people thought he should have been the head coach?

Well I feel better, atleast Holiday got his interview. That's all any coach can ask for. Jones coached at Chatt Central a few years ago.

Coach Jones is the new head coach's name. (sorry not sure on first name)

yeah, my cousin met the head coach and said he was talking about spreading the ball around. He is excited and said he is going to play this year. So, I guess that's a good thing. He has gotten some kids excited about playing already. I couldnt PAY my cousin to play in the wing T! I think they are suppose to introduce him today.

I understand where your coming from NBC and I havent been around the program in some years now. What I am saying as far as with Holiday, for whatever reason, Baker decided not to go in that direction. I belive if he thought that was the way to go, he's had ample opportunity. It works both ways, just because Holiday has been there under those coaches doesnt mean he agreed with their philosophies, but it also doesnt mean he'd make a great head coach because he has been there either. I dont know him personally, so Im definitely not bashing the guy, by all accounts, he seems like a great guy. I just think, and hope, Baker had his reasons for not choosing him. Baker I do know, and if he doesnt think its a good idea, he won't do it, no matter what. He cares too much about the program to do something he doesnt think will help it. I may actually start driving back to Meigs to watch the program closer, the idea of a new coach and hopefully a new system has me excited again about Tiger football. Now you look at the situation this way, unbiased, but look at yourself included. New guy comes in, program is struggling with new system, are you not going to look at it and start saying, should have given Holiday a chance. Thats all Im saying, is realistically because people around the community wanted someone else, this new coach is on Baker. If he fails, it'll be on Baker!

Actually I graduated from Meigs a long time ago, so I know "a little" about YOUR community! But Im not on here to bash anyone but thanks for the kind words. Im speaking about the cry on here for Holiday to be head coach and bashing Baker for not doing it, means that there is going to be resentment for not making that hire that this new coach has to face. Even an OUTSIDER can see that. If you walk into a situation and struggle at first, YOUR community is going to wonder still why he didnt give Holiday a chance and be pushing for him. It's not an easy situation to walk into, especially in a small, close nit community like YOURS, and I hope this guy is as good as advertised cause if he doesnt hit the ground running, the people pushing for Holiday's voices could get a little louder.

Didnt give him a chance huh? and that's fact? but he was the defensive coordinator? hmmmm. Ive never known a coordinator that didnt have input! Im sure on the times that Baker has talked to Holiday he listened to his "new ideas" and obviously didnt like the direction. I think the community should come to the conclusion Holiday may be a great guy but may not be best head coach, and rally behind the guy that the administration feels is the right direction for the program! It just sounds to me like some outside people wanted this Holiday guy hired and that may pose a problem for the new hire. I hope he is ready to deal with what may be a HUGE problem!

What does the returning talent look like? I know we had a good sophomore class, but do we have a qb? We got that transferred in that can play qb I believe. Im excited for the upcoming season and the path that the program seems to be taking! JUST HIT SOMEBODY IN THE MOUTH! Restore that Tiger Pride!!!

This coach has my vote already! I like the idea of change! And if he has that kind of following, it will really be a makeover there! Good Luck "new coach"! I guess we know there will be a new oc and dc on board, which is refreshing. Spread them out and still run the ball well. and the 4-3 gives you the opportunity to do so much! the question is with all of this change coming in, will the other two coaches jump on board or be a cancer within? I hope no one is BITTER they didnt get the job and then sabotage these kids development!

And just to defend Baker a little here, if you are trying to change the culture of a team, you dont hire someone who has been a part of that culture for change. You need to hire someone with a vision, a different voice. Obviously Baker has been reaching out for that different voice for a while and hopefully now, he has his guy. I dont even know the guy but I am excited for a shakeup!

I understand where Montana is coming from. Nothing is official until papers are signed, and cant be an introduction if the guy is coming in from out of town. Usually people find out before they are supposed to through the rumor mill, but in this case, seems like Baker is keeping this under wraps so he is not disappointed again by someone turning it down at the last minute. Im guessing an announcement would be made Tuesday or Wednesday if this guy is coming in town Monday. As for Holiday, it's not a shame on Baker for not hiring him, obviously he didnt have the same faith in him as a head coach as you do. This guy coming in, if he has his own system. I'd say stick to his system because if he changes who he is to fit an assistant coach, then he isnt doing his brand of coaching, and at the end of the day, he is the one who is responsible for wins and losses. I would walk in and introduce MY system to the coaches that are there and whoever he can bring in, and everyone can adapt from there. Im guessing if the teaching positions are open, he can bring in what, two more coaches. Hopefully two of his guys and teach the other two coaches what he needs done and coach his way. If he loses his way and then he loses, but if he loses trying to be someone he is not, then that is just dumb on his part. (When Montana says attacking defense, Im guessing the 5-2 is out)

Meigs will evenually hire a head coach but a new staff will never happen. This is high school football at a small school. Teaching positions must be open, which I doubt is the case. I know Harris and Holiday both have tenure, with Harris being a homer and Holiday making roots. If a new coach got to hire and fire his own staff at Meigs it would be the first time. So what positions do Harris and Holiday coach? Sounds like this guy coming in has his offensive and defensive philosophy, so I guess they will just have to fall in and help the kids transition. If Holiday is this great coach that you say, he should be able to adapt easily. I haven't heard no one say anything good about Harris. I hope he is a good guy too and can adapt to whatever the system is. If not, the coach doesnt have to keep them on staff, he can choose to go without. For the kids sake I hope the other two coaches help in the transition as well though!

Well who is this new coach? Is he a darkhorse? All the name dropping and now secretive, lol