PullinGuard

100% correct. Ejected player misses entire next game, regardless of when the ejection occurs (in HS).

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I'm not that surprised by Shelbyville. They were the smallest 6A school last year and are now just about the largest 5A school, and are in the second year with their new coach. I expected a jump from them. As another poster mentioned, FC lost a ton of talent by graduation and also had a (very late) HC change. Another significant issue is in the coaching staff - the offensive staff (at least) is very thin these days. The departing HC should be viewed as having been the OC or at least the co-OC last year. The other co-OC from 2022 is now a part-time only coach due to job changes, so I assume he's no longer involved in game-planning/play calling. In fact, over the course of the last three or so years, they have lost at least four coaches who were the primary offensive play callers at one time or another and are now on the fifth. To my knowledge, none of these departing coaches were replaced at all. I'm not going to mention any remaining coaches by name, because the fact is that there are just a few offensive coaches left trying to do the work of an offensive staff that was about four coaches larger in 2021. At some point, a staff that small is just not going to be able to get everything done that needs to get done. I was told that they wanted to hire more guys last year and were denied the money/budgeting to do so, but cannot confirm that. It's very clear they haven't been able to hire asst coaches for two years for some reason, regardless. It's hard to understand, because they certainly had a full staff in 2021. They also seem to be down a defensive coach or two from 2021. They have a pretty good QB and two other good offensive weapons. The OL is mostly pretty experienced but has under-performed as a unit this fall. They're having trouble running the ball and also can't protect long enough to throw it effectively. If you can't run it, can't protect enough to throw it, and don't have some sort of a wizard at OC, there are going to be big problems. They are routinely splitting one of their best targets to each side of the formation. With the limited pass pro, this means they only have one real target available on each passing play. They're going to have to consider putting them both on the wide side of the field and hoping they can get one of them open in the very limited time the QB has to operate, because there is zero chance that he can scan both sides of the field in the time he's getting. It's a longshot to help - if you can't run the ball and can't pass block, no amount of scheme is going to help a whole lot. But I think you have to start by being sure that both of your best options have a chance to be involved.

Man, it could be a barn-burner - you just described Coffee Co, too! Coffee's defense may be 'ok' to 'pretty good'. Need more evidence to know where they actually are on that scale.

I saw Franklin Co vs Coffee Co. Both offenses were bad. Defenses looked pretty good, but have a feeling it was more offenses being bad than defenses getting much done. Franklin Co struggled up front to move folks in the run game and to protect in the pass game. They have one very young OT, but the rest have played a lot. Based on that, they could improve some, but not a whole lot, imo. FC had two bad long snaps (one punt, one FG), that arguably cost them 6 points. So, there is a spot that there is a lot of room for improvement. Young OL is LT, and he could improve as the season goes along. Lots and lots of operational issues for FC (Delay of game, false start, procedure, bad clock management), so one would hope that would get better as well. Unless Coffee was well above average on the DL (3 DL plus one rush LB, typically), FC is going to struggle offensively this year. Oddly enough, that was expected to be a strength. Defense played pretty well - 2 or 3 LB's were good, DL was ok to good, DB's were ok. Offensively for FC, the OL struggles painted most of the picture. QB running for his life, not much push up front from the group as a whole. They do have one really good OT, but that doesn't matter much if there are missed assignments elsewhere, of course. Region is who we thought they were, going 2-5, with narrow wins over a 1A and a 2A team. I'm still thinking Shelbyville/Col at the top, Tull/FC next, Lawrence Co, Lincoln Co, Spring Hill 5-7. We'll see.

Well, that doesn't sound good. Maybe they should be the '5', or they and the other LC fight it out for 5.

I'll go: 1. Columbia 2. Shelbyville 3a. Franklin Co. 3b. Lawrence Co. 3c. Tullahoma 6. Lincoln Co 7. Spring Hill Think Columbia always has players, but had a bad one-year experiment at HC last year and will rebound. Beating CPA in a scrimmage was a surprise. Going Shelbyville at the two just because they are so much bigger than most of these schools - almost 50% more enrollment than many of the others, and think that last years' results had a lot to do with being the smallest school in 6A. The enrollment and fact that the new coach is now in year 2 suggests to me that they'll have a chance to begin recovering from their own HC experiment from 3-4 years ago. Next three in line are close - throw a blanket over them. FC has some pieces for sure, but do they have enough and can they come together quickly enough? Tullahoma doesn't appear to have a passing game and that'll hurt them, but I'd expect them to play better than last year. Lawrence Co had a good year last year, but history suggests they run out of horses at some point. Lincoln Co doesn't seem to have enough Seniors and athletes in general to compete at the top. Spring Hill is still struggling mightily. I don't know much about Lawrence Co. They could def be better than projected here if they didn't lose much from last year, as a poster indicated above.

Found the Tennessean prediction for all: Class 5A Region 5-5A: Lincoln County, Columbia, Shelbyville, Franklin County, Tullahoma, Lawrence County, Spring Hill. I suspect that any of the top five could turn out to be the winner. Need way more info to see who can pull it out. Among those five, I think all are either have new coaches, or coaches in their second year.

Thanks, checked out some clips on him - looks like he has some talent and is working hard. With that said, I only saw about 3 Sr's listed on the online roster. Now, those are often wrong, but if they have fewer than even 10 Sr's, that's normally a problem for teams.

Predicted Lincoln Co to win the Region. Don't remember the rest of the order - think they had FC about 4th.

I could imagine it (Tennessean must've had something to base their prediction on), but just don't have much info to back it up. What is their QB situation going to be like? I know last year, their QB1 was quite a bit better than QB2, and they both graduated. So, I'm suspicious that's going to be a problem unless they have a good transfer or something. Being really limited at QB would be a problem for a team who probably won't have a big number of serious athletes/powerful running attack, or a dominant defense, imo.

He'd better want to throw it more - that's clearly their strength. I am a Fay fan, but not exclusively. Have some significant interest in this almost reconstituted District 8-AAA as well. This region is mostly up for grabs - only two winning records from last year, FC and Lawr Co. Not sure what is going to happen, at all - all 7 teams only had 23 wins amongst them last year, and 13 were from FC and Lawrence. There were only maybe 10 wins from outside the teams of this new region, and only a handful or wins against 5A or better opponents (mostly FC wins). I'd expect that the bigger schools might rebound more than some of the smaller schools. Columbia and Shelbyville may overperform expectations. FC will fall compared to last year in general, but this schedule is a lot easier, too - I'm looking for approx. 0.500 from them. Tullahoma should improve from last year, but it's hard to compare the schedule - they played in a good region last year, but it was 4A. Their kicking game will win one or two extra ones for them. Tennessean predictions notwithstanding, I don't expect much from Lincoln Co. Hard to say about Lawrence (and I don't know much at all about them), but history suggests it may be tough for them to put together a lot of successful seasons back-to-back. Have to see it to believe Spring Hill will compete at all.

No, not at all. The Franklin Co/Fay result was overstated - it wasn't 4 TD's, but rather 2. Tullahoma went the other way, similar amount. I know FC had a major piece out for the scrimmage with Fay and I know that Fay had at least one significant guy out for the Tullahoma scrimmage. I don't know who Tullahoma might've had missing. There's also the matter of FC having a new coach. Normally, you'd expect teams with new coaches to be further behind early in camp than teams who have last year's coach, and you imagine that they'll make up ground, relatively speaking. But these are preseason scrimmages and you can't draw big conclusions. The two major, glaring differences in Franklin Co and Tullahoma are that FC's passing game is far, far better than Tullahoma's, and Tullahoma's kicking game is just as much better than FC's. I didn't see enough from either to hazard a guess as to which will win an actual game.

Tullahoma def won the scrimmage, and I can assure you I'm not biased in their favor. As I explained, I saw two Fay scrimmages in less than a week - that should tell you something about my glasses.

Published score from the FC/Fay scrimmage was 26-13. That seems right based on what I saw watching it. Tullahoma won their scrimmage with Fay - margin was in the same neighborhood based on what I saw watching it.

I would've thought the same until they absolutely steamrolled FC - didn't feel like FC was ever in the game. They run the ball way, way better than FC, who ran it ok against Nolensville. #9 DE for Nolensville was a huge factor against FC, but I don't think he will be against WC. Firstly, he made many of his plays rushing the passer, and WC won't throw it. Secondly, WC is about 3x more physical than FC up front and FC ran it ok against Nolensville. He's a really good player, but the matchup isn't as favorable as with FC, who had no one up front to counter him. Did feel like Nolensville's QB had an off-night against FC that he won't have against WC, since they don't have the athetes in the back-end to effectively play man-to-man like FC did. Nolensville has a great home game atmosphere and that'll help. Will be a high scoring game and should be a good one to watch.

No Sir, that would be Franklin High School, Franklin, TN, Williamson Co (not Franklin County High School Winchester, TN,)

Fc has about 6-7 pretty serious athletes at the skill spots on offense. Passing QB (not dual threat) - FC can run it or throw it. 4-3 defense with good size in the DL, good LB group, really good athletes at DB. OL is fairly experienced, good size at most spots, one smaller guard. Offense can be fairly balanced, mostly one back/shotgun. Occasionally will use a FB or H, but don't have a traditional TE this year for the most part. Explosive plays are offense's nature - a shootout would favor them, imo. FC is most hurt by a team with similar quality/number of athletes with a power running attack and good run defense/good man coverage secondary. Team can hurt itself at times with unforced penalties. The single common opponent is Warren Co. Was a win for both, White Co won 22-21: FC won 41-21. These two groups battled for the middle school championship four years ago when these seniors were all 8th grade. FC (South Middle School) won, was a good game. There are several good FC from the other FC middle school, though, in fairness to them. Doesn't really have a lot to do with this game, but interesting trivia.

I believe they're significantly better than last year, but that doesn't mean they're going to have a better record, even (although they have a fair shot at Columbia, imo). FC is much improved, primarily at the QB position, and that changes things as much as LC's improvement (if not more) imo. When you have as many good athletes as FC does, a big improvement in the player distributing the ball has a major effect. LC has one really good athlete, who is a FR. They have some good older players as well, some of whom are much improved, but I don't see how they can overcome FC athletes. FC by quite a bit. I think.

Fayetteville City and Lincoln County High School are in entirely separate school systems, so you are not 'zoned' to one or the other by a school system. You can attend either HS whether you live in the City or the County. If a kid starts at either in the 9th grade, they are immediately eligible and will remain so, no matter where you live inside the county (incl inside city). For transfers, TSSAA rules are the concern. If a kid transfers in, there is some gray area and I'm not sure how it would currently be resolved. If you legitimately move into the city limits, you can be eligible and play at City. If you want to play at LC, may want to check. The crux of the issue for the supposedly ineligible transfer at City some years back was bus service. I'm not aware that LC provides bus service inside the City - LC Schools did not do that in the past. If not, logic would dictate that you wouldn't be immediately eligible at LC if a kid transferred and you move inside city limits. If a kid transfers and you move outside city limits, inside County, it will depend on bus service. Might be possible to play immediately if kid rides the bus to city. Would have to discuss that with the school directly.

The biggest difference in the game was special teams. Every GC kick went through the endzone, and FC started drives at the 20. Majority of FC's KO's resulted in mid-field field position for GC - #1 was a great returner. GC hit two long FG's and FC missed a PAT - there's the winning margin of 7 pts right there. GC pinned FC on the five at least once with a punt. With all of that said, it is undeniable that FC was whipping GC physically early, and GC was whipping FC physically late. By the end, GC could run the ball very effectively, and FC couldn't. Once those things happened, esp with some rain, it was pretty much over. Big difference I saw early vs late was OL vs DL. There aren't many OL/DL playing both ways for FC. #72 comes to mind, not many others.

Yeah, heard in the neighborhood of 10-12 missing. Same from me - good luck to 'em

I think it is true - hearing it as well.

They were 1-10 four seasons ago. You said middle school has been declining for four years and now you say four years ago they were untouchable in MS. Regardless, there are 3-4 more middle schools to pull from in LC and I suspect they'll do just that. Of course there will be some ups and downs, but there has been a lot of talent in Lincoln County for 40 years (four state titles in that period, of course), and that's not going away. It's highly likely that City will get plenty of that going forward - I don't see LCHS pulling most of it any time soon. You may just discover that you're not as informed about football inside of Lincoln County as you think and should've done some research yourself. I doubt you are correct. Fayetteville doesn't look like a normal 1A team, and there are very good reasons for that. Those reasons aren't going away, regardless of your middle school observations.

I don't really care one way or the other, but one starting OL was on the roster at FC in July, then played at Tullahoma. Dad got a job there, and it's totally fine (ironically enough, think he had come to FC FROM Tullahoma some years before). Two other OL played middle school ball in FC, one at North, the other at South. Another kid (not OL) played youth football in Winchester for at least 2-3 years, but was always going to play school ball in Tullahoma. Different sport, but I have a neighbor who played baseball there and we live 15 miles from Tullahoma. Don't blame him for going there one bit. I know and like all of these kids except one (don't really know him except by name). Coached them all at one time or another and am glad for anything good that happens to them. None of it means much except that FC would be better if they had their act together enough to keep more kids home (seem to be making a little progress). And Tullahoma has done a good job of making their program into an attractive place to play. Adding 3-4 starters to an already good team is a nice way to win a few extra games, in my view. Certainly better than losing 3-4 from a single class.