BarneySox2007

Someone mentioned they saw a video of this on another forum, anyone know how to find this or would it be on NFHS by chance.

1 hour ago, rebeldevil said:

The Govs are much better off than the other end of town. They had there chance but no one is going to transfer and play for that guy and that was their opportunity to build something descent but that time has passed and they are going to be 3-7,4-6 at best. Robert has still got a chance to grow and improve from year to year the other guy not so much

Both teams are no better than the other. 29-28 will tell you that. Their both getting better and towards the end Heritage played a hand full of freshmen and was actually playing better by seasons end. The only knock on Heritage is how long will the coach stay. The big knock on WB will be replacing a real athlete that played QB-DB and Punter and very good at each position. Just very thankful both teams are out of the dumpster fire zone and stay that way.

A dumpster fire doesn't mean anything wrong with the kids that are playing football for these programs but usually how things are handled by adults that have an effect on these programs that put them in bad positions. A lot of people may have forgotten this but Sunbright had good seasons in the past like 2010 8-3, 2011 7-4, 2012 7-4, 2014 7-5 2017 6-5 and even 2020 the covid year they had a 4-7 record but since they are 2-28. Now all the sudden no one wants to play or even coach there so what has happened.

Brad Taylor at one time would have been my choice but the way he left Karns just before fall practice started leaving them holding the bag speaks volumes. A leopard doesn't change it's spots.

I hope they stay were their at, I would really hate to see that program up there turn into a shambles again like it was before they came there. GCA will find a good coach, they don't need to rush out and go running to the grab table because a handful travelling coaches are available.

This school can be good if it has the right coach. Knox County will go out of it's way to make sure and hire someone that's a travelling man and be gone in two years.

2 hours ago, strongx said:

It’s probably time to give that AD in LA some credit. Huge improvement in the direction of the football program finishing 2nd in the county and the boys hoops team is tops in the county with eyes on the state tourney. If they can get a little more out of the spring guys, it will be a complete 180. Congrats to that guy!

 I will be the first to admit, I had them going 1-9 last season especially how that Mo East game went down in 2022. I realize they had a very soft schedule but actually that was a good thing because those kids would never buy in if they were thrown in the cage with the likes of a Bearden  and Bradley and a couple more teams. This is one of those situations where enrollment should be thrown out the window because it's harder fielding a football team when some of your kids live far out as Tallahassee and Six Mile. You almost have to throw those numbers away and use common sense which the TSSAA has none at all.

3 hours ago, osunut2 said:

Wow. I guess you can scratch him off of Central's list.

I did until yesterday when someone told me who it possibly is plus who they were bringing as the defensive coordinator. When you hear two names it sounds pretty convincing.

Big shoes to fill at QB and know one that is good and looking for a new home this next season and if he is smart WB would be the perfect home and situation for him and them. 

Not looking to bash teams but to get conversation on what has been the problem these schools have had that keep them at the bottom. I took a year and a half off from watching Maryville and went to a lot of the smaller schools to see a family member play a few years ago and had a great time. I would love more than anything to go see a Sunbright or a Lookout Valley game sometime. 

5 minutes ago, Southtowner said:

Those "bad" years they could easily be a player or two from not even being able to field a team.  It's rough down here Barney.  

 

 

Wish more teams in that situation would play 7 man football. Even playing 8th graders is asking for problems.

1 hour ago, rlh said:

They are the longest continuous game on SP's schedule outside of Whitwell.  They have never beat SP on the field (0 - 41).  They have beat Jasper and Whitwell.  They are about 32 & 13 vs. Whitwell.   They have had some decent teams off and on over the years, but depth has always been a problem and a serious one the past 2 years.  They aren't a dumpster fire. 

Thanks rlh

44 minutes ago, Southtowner said:

@BarneySox2007 define the  "dumpster fire" meaning  in your topic heading.  

Team's records?  Plus?   Other things? 

Lookout Valley does well to field a team year in and year out, but yet they do. 

There are small schools that struggle with low enrollments,   And I'd never call them a dumpster fire for stepping up and trying to compete in football in the TSSAA playoff format. 

So, "define" it in your terms.  

I realize small schools struggle but Lookout Valley has usually had a decent team then 0-10 then next year 5-5. That is the norm in the smaller schools. Hoping to find out why some of these schools are having troubles. 

2 hours ago, Hadmatter said:

Union County made the playoffs

They fell into the playoffs.

1 hour ago, Hadmatter said:

No Private school fires? 

Not enough of them in East Tennessee. 

Barney's 6A award goes to Morristown East with Hardin Valley Academy coming in second. Due to the lack of 6A schools in East Tennessee only two teams qualified for this award.

These three all have 1-9 records but the winner is Karns Beavers, followed by Cocke County and a close third Howard High out of Chattanooga.

No doubt on this one Volunteer followed by Seymour and congratulations to Sequoyah for breaking a losing streak going back to 2018 and avoiding their 5th Dumpster Fire Award.

The clear cut winner for this dumpster fire is in no doubt Sweetwater, followed by Scott County and as always giving their part is Union County for third place.

Barney's winner for 2A is Cumberland Gap then Tellico Plains on a close second followed by West Greene.

The winner is Sunbright followed by Lookout Valley and Cosby.

47 minutes ago, alt1958b said:

Don't count on the TSSAA fixing anything. They are moving in the other direction.

They'll put the thing out of business. They have everyone driving all over the place every year to play 45 teams all across the state for an enrollment system that don't work. I'm a contractor/business owner that predicts games every week and I was 80.5% this year without the help of any media or info on most teams but I do that for fun but most and forall to show how predictable it is and why people don't show up at games like they used to because it don't take an Albert Einstein to figure out who will win so most chose not to waste time in boredom that night and do something different and save the 100 mile drive.

CaptainGuru I'm sure someone will apply but I hope they do some hard thinking before uprooting their family to move into an environment where a pack of local dingdongs turned a school into suspending a coach on an investigation which really turned out to be a crock of BS over a zealous town idiot with a pocket full of money and a little bit of power who thought his kid should be the starting QB. Whoever inherits this mess will have to deal with it for the next three years and hope there's no younger brothers coming down the line. Most likely they'll have to keep one or both of the assistants that stuck a knife in the past coaches back also from what I have read. For the kids sake I do hope they find a good coach but whoever does think they can overcome what was allowed to happen to the past coach they better think real hard before diving into a mess like this.

After getting beat by Bradley twice and watching Oakland do the same to the Bears and them Houston manhandled the Patriots like they did it sent me into an abyss, I see no hope of ever returning to the stage we once took for granted. This has no bearing on GQ leaving or Coach Hunt's coaching ability. We plainly don't have the athletes or the size players that schools like Oakland or Houston have or ever will especially the size. It's very hard to accept knowing there aren't any good answers and what's worse is watching Bearden join the crowd right in front of our eyes.The game has caught up to us. I myself would rather not do as some schools have and go raid other programs or support this NIL nonsense which is the beginning of the end. An uneven playing field is now before us that only the TSSAA can fix before it gets so far out of hand people will quit coming to the games,