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lol, I am always honest, some AC Posters hate me for it. I hope I am wrong, but if you are not honest in your picks when it is not in your favor how can anyone put any credit in anything you say? I always find it funny how people like to hang on every word you say and use what you say to back them up, but when you pick against your best interest all of a sudden you are clueless lol. Nobody actually knows what will happen tonight, we can just hope for the best, one thing is for sure, not going to be a better atmosphere to go to this year.

Glad its gameday, I have been wanting to see this matchup for about 3 months now lol. AC comes in able to score a lot of points and can be very creative on offense. The defense for AC has had some games where they looked legit and some games where they looked lost, hopefully this is a good night on that side of the ball. If Greeneville is able to line up and control the line of scrimmage and shorten the possessions that AC has that could be the difference in the game. Personally I think Greeneville has the advantage in the trenches, AC is good on the line, not great, but is very good at linebacker. Games where AC has been forced to stop the run the Linebackers have been a huge part of that and Creative Blitzing has been key. My worry is that AC will be forced to do just this and force us to one on one matchups in the secondary and Greeneville hit just enough big plays to make the difference. I am confident that AC can stop the throw game if they can play balanced on D, but not if they are forced to sell out against the run and stack the box, this is where I think Greenevilles game plan will be. Force AC to sell out on the run and then make just enough plays to bite AC in the throw game. If Greeneville can accomplish this, AC will have to score every possession and so far this season they have been able to do mostly that, but AC will have to be disciplined on Offense with Turnovers and Penalties. We left points on the field last week and we will not be able to do that this week. I think Greeneville will try to limit AC Possessions, try to make AC march the field with good Kickoffs starting at the 20. AC will probably end up pooch kicking giving the ball up around the 35. If AC can play great on Defense and get a turnover or 2 and make Greeneville punt a couple time they can win, if not, Greeneville will win. AC has a very explosive offense and that could be the difference, Football is a game of Inches and last years game is a prime example of just that, their were many plays early where the offense was just off, missed passes high or behind, not completing and having to punt, cant have that this year, hopefully we are on and can get to the 30 point mark, if we can do that we will have a shot at pulling this one off. I saw a post from an EHS poster earlier that said they lost that game in the second half and that just simply is not true, AC should have been up 21-0 in the first qtr, that game was never in doubt from the kickoff on. AC has started every game this year fast and will have to do the same tonight to win. Looking forward to a great atmosphere tonight and I hope AC can prove me wrong in my prediction, but I am always honest whether my AC friends agree or not. Hopefully I can go to one more home game this year next week, but here is my honest prediction for tonight: Greeneville: 34 AC: 24 GO Mavs, Im pulling for you, and I hope you prove me wrong

Hope your right

lol, ok buddy, if you read all my post all year long than you would understand that all year long I have been one of the few realistic Mav fans on here, earlier this year I picked Greeneville to win this match up by 17 and, I said this matchup may not even happen because I didn't know if the Mavs would make it this far, 2 weeks ago I talked about how if AC played defense the way we did against Grainger we could score 70 and lose...but yea, you know where I stand because you have read all my post all year right? Seems you are reaching to say something to a mav fan for some reason and you just so happen to pick the one that has not liked the schedule, been worried about our team speed, not thought we would make it this far, picked Greeneville to win this match up and has been worried about our defense lol, good job man, you are really on top of your game on that one. I have never questioned our offense, but do not think for minute that I am one of the Mav faithful that only sees the scores and thinks we are world beater lol. You may want to go back and re-read all those comments of mine all year that you say you have read

What are you talking about? You realize you are on the MR. Football thread right? Like, that is what we are talking about, not the season, or championship run etc.. Just Mr. Football. So what exactly do I not understand?

voting is already complete, I guess you missed that part of the conversation, it is based on what they did in the regular season, Playoffs do not impact the winner at all. So no, winner does not take all

did I ever once argue any of that? Did you not see where I said that I agree 100% with AC having a weak schedule? My whole point was about how obviously that's not what the voters are basing it off of because if it was Martin would not be this far in the voting process. Martin has had bigger games as the competition has gone on, I am not saying that has any impact as if it did than he would hands down be the favorite, heck, he had over 500 yards of offense and what, like 5 or 6 TD's against Betsy and had a 68 yard TD called back on a drive we didn't score on. My point is you can not discount his performance during the season due to the schedule when it is becoming pretty apparent with his recent performances that the season was not a fluke. How many times was AC up 21-0 or 28-0 or 35-0 in the first qtr and then coasted? If it was all about stats Martin would have averaged over 500 yards a game if they wanted to, but because of the weak schedule and comfortable leads he didn't. The argument could almost be made that if they played better competition and he had to play 100% of all the games he may have better stats, I mean the great Betsy team that was supposed to Mercy rule AC according to some on here is proof of just that right? because is they are not than you are saying they are overrated as well, are they? Nobody knows, but with him being a finalist I do not think they are putting as much in the SOS as you may think. Cade may win it and is deserving, by this stage in the process all 3 are obviously deserving and any of the 3 can win it.

yes, my whole point about this is that nobody knows, but to say that Martin will not get it due to the schedule is a slap in the face. Heck, they may not give it to either of them, their is another candidate and nobody knows who truly deserves it. I honestly wish they would wait until the Semi Finals are over, you never know what a kid will do down the stretch. To discount a 3rd of the season for one of the candidates with the competition they would face in the playoffs seems crazy to me, it also by the way I think backs up the fact that the competition is not as important to the voters as the performances.

I never said he cant throw deep, did I? Also, I said AC had a week schedule, none of that is disputed, I asked that if what YOU say is true than why is Stanton a finalist? If what YOU say is true and Ballard is only attempting 15 passes a game and you say that you rely on the team than YOU are the one implying that Greeneville is where they are because of the team, not Ballard. This is all implied by Greeneville fans, not AC. You guys are the ones talking about how AC is the beneficiary of a week schedule and that is going to be a determining factor as to why Ballard gets Mr. Football and not Martin, which may be true, but by that logic why is Martin even a finalist. I mean, obviously the only reason they are where they are is because of who they played right? Wouldn't that mean that if SOS is a factor he shouldn't even be a finalist? Who was Greenevilles toughest game? Was it betsy? Science Hill? we just handled Betsy pretty good, and if I remember right, didn't one of Greenevilles fans make the comment that unless you are as good as Science Hill you will not blow out Betsy, or something to that effect? We both beat East Ridge by pretty much the same, and we both beat Central by pretty much the same, you guys had a better game against Granger and we had a better game against Betsy, seems we are not that far apart, maybe the voters think the same thing, and if that is the case than Martin would have the edge. Maybe its not, but who knows, but I do not see it being a fact that SOS is determining this when Martin is a finalist.

lol, so you just proved my point that the voters are obviously not discounting martin on who we played seeing how the voting was done in the regular season and here we sit with him as a finalist. So you are also saying that because Greeneville does not rely on Cade that much that he is in the position he is because of who is around him and not because he is a difference maker. Does that mean that he gets his passing yards from throwing a bubble and the receiver breaking a 60 yard TD? I mean it is obvious they do not ask too much of him with him only attempting 15 passes a game. I know he is a great player and I know Greeneville is good, but you cant have it every way. Greeneville like to say that scores and results from previous games don't matter and then you want to reach back 13 or 14 months and pull up old scores lol. I already said Greeneville should win this game, But do not discount AC, and look at the Grainger film all you want, I mean, we can say the same thing on if Cade is so Great and Greeneville is so potent on offense how in the world did you not score more on Betsy, I mean, AC left 14 pointes on the field and still scored 38 with our obviously inferior offense and overrated QB right? Last week does not matter no more than last year does. Id they really look at SOS and put as much emphasis on that as you claim than Martin would not be a finalist. I am the first to say that AC had a weak schedule, but its not like they were squeeking out wins either.

Apparently whomever is doing the voting is not discounting the competition otherwise Stanton would not be a finalist. Also, you like to throw out the competition, but AC had bigger offensive performances, namely by Martin, in all of the common opponent matchups. Say what you want, but Martin and this offense have been very impressive. Also, what are the completions that Cade had? Were they due to throwing a bubble pass and the receiver taking it 60 yards for a TD? I don't know the answer to that, but I do know that Stanton makes big throws. I can complete 8 of 10 passing for 250 yards and it looks impressive on paper, but if 6 of those were behind the line of scrimmage and the receivers did the work its not accurate. Like I said, I don't know that, but their are many factors in this. But you guys wanted to discount AC and say that what they have done or do in the playoffs don't matter, I simply put the stats up, showing the gap in the regular season stats. If the voters were discounting the schedule than I am pretty sure Martin would not be a finalist. Cade may get it, I have no clue, but you cant say they go by regular season stats and then discount the stats.

All I did was post stats, take it as you will lol. But in all honesty, if It was done by regular season performance combined with Classroom performance as stated by many people on another thread I do not see how Ballard would be the favorite. Not saying he does not win it, I am sure he is deserving so do not take my post wrong, but for anyone to say that he is the favorite due to the regular season stats to me is just not logical. And I am just going to also point out the fact that Stanton is a finalist, so the whole argument that he should be discounted because of the schedule seems to not be accurate either because by that logic he would not have made it this far. Ballard and Martin both have probably only played 60-70% of the snaps during the season due to scores, I know of more than a handful of games where Martin was siting the last quarter and a half of games and most games he did not play in the 4th qtr. Other than maybe 3 games I do not remember him playing in the 4th. multiply that by the season combined with running clock in pretty much all but 1 game and you have lost a lot of Football played to gain on the stats., I am sure that is the case with Ballard as well making both of their stats that much more impressive.

Here are Stantons Stats for the Regular Season: Games: 10 QB Effic: 210 158/242 passing for 2,770 yards, 41 TD's and 9 INT's - 65.9% - Long of 83 yards 50 rushes for 588 yards 9 TD's, Long of 63 Average per rush: 11.8 Total: 3,358 yards, 50 TD's Average per game: 335.8 5TD's Average yards per completion: 17.5 - per attempt: 11.4 Here is what I could find for Cade, any more info is appreciated: Games: 10 Yards Passing: 2005 fro 34 TD's and 5 INT's - 71.8% completion 378 yards rushing for 10 TD's Total: 2,383 yards, 44TD's Average per game: 238.3 4.4TD's Statistical difference between the 2: Passing TD's - Martin +7 Rushing TD's - Ballard +1 Passing Yards - Martin +765 Rushing Yards - Martin +210 INT's - Ballard +4 Completion% - Ballard +5.9% Total Yards: Martin +975 Total TD's: Martin +6

Here are Stantons Stats for the Regular Season: Games: 10 QB Effic: 210 158/242 passing for 2,770 yards, 41 TD's and 9 INT's - 65.9% - Long of 83 yards 50 rushes for 588 yards 9 TD's, Long of 63 Average per rush: 11.8 Total: 3,358 yards, 50 TD's Average per game: 335.8 5TD's Average yards per completion: 17.5 - per attempt: 11.4 Here is what I could find for Cade, any more info is appreciated: Games: 10 Yards Passing: 2005 fro 34 TD's and 5 INT's - 71.8% completion 378 yards rushing for 10 TD's Total: 2,383 yards, 44TD's Average per game: 238.3 4.4TD's Statistical difference between the 2: Passing TD's - Martin +7 Rushing TD's - Ballard +1 Passing Yards - Martin +765 Rushing Yards - Martin +210 INT's - Ballard +4 Completion% - Ballard +5.9% Total Yards: Martin +975 Total TD's: Martin +6

on a serious note, what were the stats of both QB's during the regular season? I would like to see them lined up side by side just to compare. Also, I know that Stanton has like a 4.3 gpa and a 27 ACT Score, any idea what Cade's is?

I assume you mean against EHS. But yea, I honestly think if you guys played again you beat them by a much larger Margin. The Game Friday Night should have been worse

Fake News lol. I think its funny every time I hear it.

I am just curious as to why Cyclone fans keep throwing out their that AC beat them on a night that they did not play their best football. Sounds like a cop out to save face in my opinion, if it was said once in this thread I would overlook it, but I have read it a couple times and just thought I would throw out the fact that AC Fumbled a few times, one when they were at the 2 fixing to score, gave EHS multiple drive starters in AC territory, missed multiple INT's and had a ton of penalties, about 4 in a row to assist one of EHS drives. In all honesty, the same could be said that AC did not play their best football as well. In reality, anyone at the game would know that AC should have beaten EHS by a score of around 52-7 if they would have played their best game. AC had a tone of mistakes Friday Night. I am just not buying that AC won because it was a night that EHS did not play their best football. With that said, I still think Greeneville has the edge in this game. I think Greeneville should have blown out EHS as well. I will give my score prediction later in the week. I think we are looking at a great atmosphere Friday between 2 very good teams. Might be the best matchup of the year.

Foxman, I am a huge AC Fan, but I have to disagree with you on this one, AC has not hit the endzone in weeks on kickoffs, if they have it has only been 10-20% of the time. And the coverage has been a weekness of AC for most the year, I would go out on a limb and say that Elizabethton averaged starting field position at around their 35-40 yard line, in fact, we were so close to letting EHS run some back early and have good starting field position that we started Sky Kicking it to try and keep that from happening and they still almost broke one. I have been saying all year that Penalties and Kick Coverages were a big hamper on this team this year and that has shown, AC just has been that much better than anyone they have played so it has not bit them yet. Against a team like Greenville we can not give up the field position like we have been and survive. Heck, at one point on Friday I told the guy sitting next to me if we are going to give them the ball at the 40 every time I assume just onside it every time lol. AC may be best served pooch kicking this Friday, we may give them the 30-35 every time, but at least it can be controlled and minimize the chance for a big return. GO MAVS!!!

AC defense was impressive tonight, I honestly was not expecting them to play like that. All 3 scores for EHS were set up by short field. If AC don't fumble going in to score and have a 68 yard TD called back for ineligible it could have gotten real ugly. Not sure what to think about this weeks game, If AC plays to their potential they very well could be playing at home the following week. Going to have to clean up some mistakes, we give up to much field position on Kickoff and Penalties and we left a lot of points on the field tonight, should have had running clock tonight and didn't, I hope we play a good clean game Friday. I look forward to the trip.

This one wins the whole thread lol, I am an AC fan and that's funny.

The speed of AC worries me going forward, if we play like we did Friday on the Defensive side of the ball we are in trouble and will need to score 50 and that may still not be enough. Its not like Grainger just drove down the field on us 3 and 4 yards at a time and we just couldn't stop them, the first drive was like 4 plays and 75 yards and their was one drive that was 1 play for 90. Our defense kept closing in and Grainger would press the line of scrimmage and then flow to the outside and we didn't have the speed to make up for it early. We had a good run of about a quarter and a half where the defense finally started stopping that and then Grainger ran right at us and we couldn't stop it and couldn't catch up when they broke one, that worries me. We are going to have to be disciplined on Defense if we are going to have a shot Friday night. I was concerned with the fact that Grainger was able to convert on every single 2 point conversion, Grainger was able to keep up with scoring and gain just due to the 2 point conversions. Not saying we wont be, but we HAVE to be mistake free because we do not have the team speed to make up for mistakes. We have to be the total package if we are going to go very far and right now it looks like our only chance is to outscore teams, that is not going to last long. I think this team can do great things and hope they will, but as of now they look vulnerable on Kick Coverage and on the back end of the defense and I think that is mostly due to team speed. I think AC pulls out a nail biter Friday night in a fairly high scoring game but will not be shocked if Elizabethton pulls out the W. Cheering for the Mavs and hope they come out with a good game plan and execute. AC 42 Elizabethton 41

Dude, seriously I do not know what your problem is, but what part of my comment had anything to do with the Mavs looking like the patriots. I clearly said they showed glimpses, I clearly said that IF they can give the same effort consistently they can compete. You on the other hand keep throwing out snarky comments about how Greenville is going to mercy rule everyone they play. I have not even been on a Greenville thread and said anything about them, but for some reason you can't stay off of ours. You are grasping at my comment like for some reason I have called Greenville out or something, I already said that if Greenville and AC were to play right now I would pick Greenville by 2-3 scores. So where do you get off twisting my comments around, are you actually worried about the Mavs? Is that what it is? Because you seem real insecure scoping out the AC threads and trying to twist comments into something they are not. I am he most honest poster about the Mavs you will find and I catch heck from some of the AC faithful for it because I am honest in my assessment, so don't try twisting my comments into something they are not, you can play that middle school game with someone else.

After an Impressive and Dominant game against Herritage AC Host East Ridge in a battle of undefeated teams. AC comes in averaging 53 points a game while allowing 13, East Ridge is averaging 28, but also averaging giving up 21 per game. All but one of AC's games have ended with running clock while all of East Ridge games have been close games. Is East Ridge more battle tested? Will this be another blowout win for the Mavs or are we looking at a nail biter for Friday Night? AC played their most complete football game in the first half Last Night, namely the first quarter, allowing the young guys to finish out the second half and cruise to a win. Other than about a 4:00 span in the second quarter where AC had some costly turnovers and penaltied the Varsity was very impressive. If they can sustain that effort consistently they can compete with the best teams In 4A. I was very impressed with the capability the Mavs showed last night, they finally showed in my eyes glimpses of being a very good team. I have been worried all year about the portions of the games where they tend to beat themselves and play sloppy and that showed up for a small portion of last nights game again, but over the last 2 games seem to be getting better in that area. I would like to see them improve in that are a little more to be a complete team, but they are going in the right direction and have played their best football against the best competition they have faced and that is a good sign. I don't know much about East Ridge so maybe someone from their side can fill us in, but after last nights performance I am thinking AC wins this one big as well. I will post a score prediction Friday. GO MAVS!!!!

No problem, I know you didn't mean any harm lol,