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Just now, SheriffofRedRock said:

Yea I'm sure most from those places would say that about him. I looked at the history of coaches from LaVergne. Will Hester was a coach there from '07-'09 and went 9-21. I would say most people think he is a good coach. I think LaVergne is just a bad job

Took over a great job at OR and won 4 games in Year 4. Hester had practically no talent to work with. May be a bad job, but Stevens is also a bad HC

17 minutes ago, thegreatone36 said:

What has Vandy done since Mason has been gone? Anybody saying somebody can't coach based on what they did at Vandy is out of touch with reality. If Saban was at Vandy they would struggle to win 6 games. That place is losing players left & right because they are in a total different league from the rest of the SEC. Basically no donor support. No NIL support. In the current football landscape, Vanderbilt will struggle to ever get to 6 wins any year soon.  

Mason inherited a good situation and left it in a bad one. I think Derek Mason is a good coach, makes for a solid DC. But the leader of a program? Hard pass

13 minutes ago, SheriffofRedRock said:

Has LaVergne ever been good? I would agree that 1 out of 3 HC jobs being successful for him isn't great. But in baseball terms if you're batting .300 you're in the HoF.

I would probably pick Cummings or Taylor just because they are not as removed in their HC careers of being a coach. Cummings hasn't coached for one season and Taylor the same as far as I know.

They've had a little success. Stevens was there 10 years, he had plenty of time. You ask anybody in RuCo or OR, they're likely to have the same opinion. There is a reason why he hasn't been a HC since 2019. This isn't baseball, if you only convert a third of your 3rd downs, your not having a good game

25 minutes ago, SheriffofRedRock said:

I don't think that LaVergne was ever loaded as a team. Sure they had a few great athletes but what team in that RuCo area doesn't these days. Take them out of that region and they have good success. You of all people should know that. Warren was unfortunate to take over after bishop left, but to me no chance at the job with the other names in the hat

I know LaVergne has a ceiling of what's possible and aware of the quality of football being played, but nobody did less with more than Stanton Stevens at LaVergne. Central is better off hiring an assistant 

35 minutes ago, SheriffofRedRock said:

Yea I hear you. To me I think that Mason and (insert whatever coach) could have similar records 8-4, 7-5, maybe a 9 win season and the young guy get plucked and Mason not because they have seen him before. They think that the young guy can do more and its a fun hire. I don't think Mason can do that but who knows maybe he does have success but no bigger programs want him and he does well there.

That's not a valid reason for hiring a retread. Accepting mediocrity is why fans wanted a change in the first place

31 minutes ago, SheriffofRedRock said:

Find me a coach who had success at Vandy. I understand the difference between him and a young guy. Clearly there was not a young college guy that they thought could do better.

You win 8 games at Vandy like Franklin did, I call that a success

5 minutes ago, SheriffofRedRock said:

I agree that a young up and coming coach would be more exciting, but I think both would last about same time there. Mason isn't going to be great. Maybe 3-5 years. If a younger guy was hired and had quick success then he would get plucked by a bigger school for HC or coordinator. So I think that MTSU would be in the same boat either way in about 5 years.

If he gets hired away, then that means his tenure was a success, I think most mtsu fans would be OK with that

5 minutes ago, SheriffofRedRock said:

Warren was 1-9. Stevens did not do good at OR but he won state at AE. I know who I would pick

Stevens also was terrible at LaVergne. Warren just happened to be the poor soul that was in charge after Bishop graduated. Give any coach the loaded cupboard Stevens had and they'd have a title to their name as well. Central can do MUCH better

20 minutes ago, 422PT said:

And the 2nd game with Riverdale? Who had the best talent in each of those games? Was the 56 point shut out because of talent or coaching? I don't think it matters who you play - only how you play. Houston played great in championship - Oakland did not. That's pretty much the answer no matter how you slice it.

Might as well be arguing with a brick wall

7 minutes ago, SheriffofRedRock said:

I have heard that Karns could open up, but not because of him leaving for another job. Maybe that is starting to be said to save face. No way he gets the job over Stevens, Cummings or Taylor, if Taylor threw his name in the hat.

Anybody is better than Stevens

13 minutes ago, SheriffofRedRock said:

Who did you expect them to get? MTSU is either a job that a young guy tries to parlay into a bigger job, or a guy like Mason who just wants another check and knows he doesn't have to be great.

I think most ppl that support MTSU were not being unrealistic in wanting a young coach that can energize the fanbase and community.  Derek Mason isn't that. I suspect MTSU isn't going to give him the lkind of loyalty that they gave Stockstill

33 minutes ago, blazer1set said:

In terms of the playoffs:              It's almost certain the eastern side (Regions 1 - 4) will be represented by a school in the Knoxville area.      None of the schools in Tri-cities or Chattanooga have a chance.      No way to know for sure but the state champion will come from one of these:

Henry County
Knox West
Oak Ridge
Page
Powell

Good list, but I'd add Southwind and Beech to that. Southwind is returning a QB that won Mr. Football as a Soph and Beech is very talented but was young last year 

1 hour ago, ttitan27 said:

Ingle Martin for special teams?

Was thinking Ingle as QB Coach, Adam Caine as RB Coach, David Ellis OL/TE Coach, Will Hester for WRs. Stephen Jackson for DLine, Jim Gaylor for LBs, Lamar Brown for DBs with Buck Fitzgerald as recruiting coordinator. Should have been an AD

30 minutes ago, Bradleysports23 said:

Oakland got humbled too… so I guess we’re all in the same boat huh? Lol and Hey Bradley had more wins and less losses than Oakland and got a mr football out of the deal.. so I’m still content with our season… much better season than Oakland.l in certain areas..13-1 or 12-3 

38-17

Hire Rankin. Make GQ OC and Creasy DC. Sure better than what they ended up with

12 minutes ago, BarneySox2007 said:

I was really surprised how Oakland shut him down. It didn't match up with what I seen of him in other games. 

Boo is an incredible athlete but where you hurt Oakland is bewteen the tackles. Sisa wasn't a power back but had a big oline, the other teams that have had success against Oakland largely did it bewteen the tackles (outside of Riverdale)

27 minutes ago, alt1958b said:

Would not be surprised if he is anywhere near as athletic as Boo

I haven't seen Boo nearly as often as you have, I think both are incredibly athletic but big difference in running style. Boo has alot of Reggie Bush in his game, bobbing and weaving across the field for a big gain. Morris is more of a 1 cut runner and he's off to the races. . Pretty incredible set of athletes whose skills I believe translate well to the next level 

12 minutes ago, alt1958b said:

 

Both sides of the ball and special teams.  He played WR (all 4 wideout locations) RB some, then on defense strong safety, and returned kicks and punts (when the other team was crazy enough to kick to him; I thought it was the highest compliment by the opposing coaches for kicking short and out of bounds to avoid him).

I didn't see Morris play anywhere but RB and QB although I suspect he can play anywhere. But in a competition such as this boo should have won based on all he did.

And something few knew was that he and Morris are cousins. He was asked by our announcer on a players show if he knew him and Boo said yes, they were cousins and he had played with him and against him many times.

 

Morris led the team in receiving yards as well, but yes Boo was all over the field 

On 12/2/2023 at 9:12 PM, SLBK said:

Maybe MTSU should hire Houston’s head coach.

I'd take him over who they are hiring 

3 minutes ago, watermaker said:

More travisty......Boo Carter wins 6-A Mr. Football when Duane Morris clearly dominates him and Bradin Graham in the playoffs this year. Add in stats from all three for the regular season and it's pretty clear politics have entered the world of high school football !

I got no problem with Boo Carter winning Mr. Football, he was a great player on BOTH sides of the ball. Also, playoffs aren't factored in when voting for Mr. Football

50 minutes ago, SheriffofRedRock said:

Since you seem to be a fan of the program. Is the 2 qb system a ploy just to get his son on the field? From everything I have read he is not great. I know the wing T is not thought of being a great throwing offense, but normally you will have single covered receivers that can get open with a simple slant. I'm sure ya'll aren't lacking in talent in the WR room.

Kyler Creasy was actually the full time starter to start the season. It wasn't until he got hurt and Freeman proved himself capable that the 2 qb system became a thing. Personally I prefer Freeman, I feel like he's shown abilities that you need in a championship qb aside from his arm, but obviously Kyler knows the offense  better. I trust in Creasy to make the best decision for the team. 

Oakland does base out of the Wing-T, but they'll show alot of different formations over the course of the season, so what Oakland does can vary from team to team. Creasy has had teams at Oakland that could sling it, but in a given year, most of Oakland's talent is OL,DL,DB and TB. If Creasy wanted to, he could have a 2,000 yard passer every season. I suspect next season you could see more of Morris at WR if Haynesworth can stay healthy and proves to be a guy Creasy can trust. That's assuming if Freeman stays at Oakland 

3 hours ago, QuickStrike said:

BA will have some guys show up.  This wont happen again. 

BA had some guys show up last year and it did happen 

Hats off to Houston, there's nobody that can say they aren't the best team in 6A after going through Germantown,  Brentwood and Oakland like they did. People will call it an upset, but Houston was just better plain and simple. Nothing like seeing your team get their first title, I congratulate Coach Thomas and his players on a job well done as well as the Houston community.

For Oakland's seniors, there is nothing to hang your head for. 4 year record of 56-4 with 3 gold balls and a silver is pretty amazing. This team faced adversity on their road to Chattanooga and had to win 3 road games to get there. I'm proud of what these seniors and this team accomplished.

Alot of this Oakland team returns in 2024, interested to see their development in the months that follow

20 minutes ago, SweetScience said:

This game on NFHS?

Yes

1 minute ago, FBfan26 said:

heck of a game upperman. That QB is tough and a fighter!!

Congrats to your firebirds @FBfan26, it's been long overdue and couldn't happen to a more deserving coach

19 hours ago, crow said:

Think me as HC, OnB can be my OC and GFD is my special teams coach, you know all those guys are a little crazy and overly aggressive lol

Long as you promise to recruit aggressively in-state, works for me