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Mid-State Press… Blackman, Oakland combine for 12 Region 4-AA individual wrestling champions Cecil Joyce Murfreesboro Daily News Journal Blackman had seven region champions and Oakland five as several area wrestlers advanced to the individual sectional after Saturday's Region 4-AA tournament at Blackman. The Patriots won the team title, scoring 247 points to 230 for second-place Blackman. The top four in each weight division in the region advanced to the sectional, which will be held Feb. 19 at Oakland. The top four in each weight division from the sectional will advance to the state tournament. Team scores Oakland 247, Blackman 230, Coffee Co. 94, Siegel 89, Rockvale 77.5, Warren Co. 75.5, Stewarts Creek 68, Riverdale 63, Shelbyville 52, Smyrna 50.5, La Vergne 43, Franklin Co. 21. Individual results (top four) 106 — Championship: Sebron Colson (Blackman) def. Chase Creque (Siegel) 6-2; Third place: Deshawn Miller (Oakland) def. Christian Fravel (Franklin Co.), fall, 0:31. 113 — Championship: Aslan Nadeau (Blackman) def. Nathan Barbee (Oakland) 7-4; Third place: Dakadius Justus (Riverdale) def. Ty Young (La Vergne) 9-7. 120 — Championship: Isaiah Thephavong (Blackman) def. Brayden Bouma (Oakland), fall, 1:08; Third place: Jeremiah Monk (Stewarts Creek) def. Orion Sadler (Shelbyville) 14-12. 126 — Championship: Justin Bradford (Blackman) def. Landon Beasley (Oakland), fall, 0:25; Third place: Jeremiah Wardell (Coffee Co.) def. Roberto Dodson (Warren Co.), fall, 0:31. 132 — Championship: Grant Myers (Blackman) def. Jack Hines (Stewarts Creek), fall, 1:32; Third place: Noah Creque (Siegel) def. Joel Denton (Smyrna), fall, 3:06. TOP PERFORMERS:Murfreesboro area high school basketball week 13, Division II postseason top performers BASKETBALL TOURNEYS:Murfreesboro area TSSAA basketball high school district tournament schedule, scores 138 — Championship: Mason Sells (Blackman) def. Bronson Clark (Siegel), forfeit; Third place: Caleb Mackie (Warren Co.) def. Logan Saller (Rockvale), fall, 2:40. 145 — Championship: Jaxsen Nieuwsma (Oakland) def. Aden Heathcott (Blackman), fall, 1:59; Third place: Landon McCrosky (Shelbyville) def. Aron Tenpenny (Stewarts Creek), fall, 2:57. 152 — Championship: Adam Tibitoski (Oakland) def. Jacob Barlow (Coffee Co.) 7-6; Third place: Alec Lewis (Riverdale) def. Alec Smith (Warren Co.), fall, 3:36. 160 — Championship: Owen Kates (Oakland) def. Zerek Keel (Warren Co.), fall, 1:34; Third place: Mauricio Jimenez (La Vergne) def. Omar Kattih (Riverdale) 9-4. 170 — Championship: Braxton Myers (Oakland) def. Nazario Flores (Coffee Co.), fall, 3:19; Third place: Neyzar Perez (La Vergne) def. Gipson Frost (Riverdale) 10-9. Going For Hardware 182 — Championship: Jashua Chew (Blackman) def. Connor Hedges (Rockvale), fall, 1:20; Third place: Josh Tobin (Oakland) def. Nick Mendicino (Stewarts Creek), fall, 2:47. 195 — Championship: Connor Milhorn (Siegel) def. Hayven Jenkins (Oakland), MD 13-0; Third place: David Wilkinson (Blackman) def. Ian Walker (Coffee Co.), fall, 3:11. 220 — Championship: Theron Gaines (Oakland) def. Logan McBee (Shelbyville), MD 11-3; Third place: Brady Owen (Rockvale) def. Miles Workman (Blackman), fall, 4:22. 285 — Championship: Elias Gardner (Smyrna) def. Blayne Myers (Coffee Co.), fall, 2:25; Third place: Jonah Wells (Oakland) def. Anthony Orellana (Rockvale), fall, 5:47. More Pics… https://www.dnj.com/picture-gallery/sports/high-school/2022/02/13/photos-region-4-aa-individual-wrestling-championships/6770719001/ —————- Down in Ga …Buford does it’s thing, Jefferson Runner-up, and Sonoraville… https://www.ajc.com/sports/high-school-sports-blog/ghsa-traditional-wrestling-state-championship-results-from-friday/DY5DSZYUMNEVBECS2IIGOUTOKI/ https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=https://www.ajc.com/sports/high-school-sports-blog/ghsa-traditional-wrestling-state-championship-results-from-friday/DY5DSZYUMNEVBECS2IIGOUTOKI/&ct=ga&cd=CAEYASoTMzMxNTgwNzk5Mzk2ODU1NDY4ODIaNjcwMTQ2NGJmNmE1MjI3ODpjb206ZW46VVM&usg=AFQjCNEuzm3N3C62V3s-5kpmRTPePM6mzQ

Super 32 from Flo… 120 lbs Last year's final: #3 (126) Cooper Flynn Seymour, TN DEC #7 Mason Gibson South Fork, PA, 6-1 126 #20 - Keyveon Roller, Lakeway Christian Academy, TN 138 #17 - Brayden Ivy, Lakeway Chrisitian Academy, TN 145 1 - Cody Chittum, APEX homeschool, TN Commentary: This weight class might be the best combination of top talent and depth in the entire tournament. Fans of high-paced wrestling won't want to miss the best matches at 145 lbs. At the top of this weight, Jackson Arrington looks to defend his #1 ranking for the first time since taking over that honor at Who's Number One. That will be a tall order since Cody Chittum is returning to the mat at Super 32. That potential matchup is enticing as both Arrington and Chittum love nothing more than to let it fly. Chittum has held the #1 spot for a long time himself, so the winner of this potential final would settle the #1 debate definitively, if both can navigate the insane minefield that awaits. https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/7181669-the-ultimate-super-32-preview-and-predictions-article&ct=ga&cd=CAEYASoUMTI4NTUxNDk5MDU5Njg2NjE2MDMyGmE2OWJiNzE0MWFhNmRmYjM6Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=AFQjCNHm5B_Grhy3i0msM4qVBl7djm0jqg https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/7181628-super-32-preseeds-are-here&ct=ga&cd=CAEYACoUMTI4NTUxNDk5MDU5Njg2NjE2MDMyGmE2OWJiNzE0MWFhNmRmYjM6Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=AFQjCNFDMemzWWlA8yIMgzLcdEfuha0ZLw

Not to highjack this Great Thread on Simpson's team who everyone should totally love, but we Saw you soms on tv last night near the Boykins, Kennedys, fowlers, Solomans, Wards, Smartts, Sells and a bunch of Hixon folks behind you like Jona Shackford and J Bird and fam, that Red Bank kid who pulled that one out at the last sec... Good for him! Back to topic, I must say that for me personally and so many others outside of Father Ryan we are so grateful for the off season training we got from the Simpsons, coach Connell and also the Bradley folks who always open their mats for the kids. Love these bonds, yeah, like family Hats off to the Ryan Tradition and Success

The old man sees Baylor, Cleveland, Beech, McCallie who could win Cleve. Duals maybe more, Science Hill, Bradley as tops. Watch for Wilson Central, even Purple Bros, Arlington, Blackman, Independance and Tennessee to break top ten again. No particular order really, Right Soms?

Not bad pops... __________________ The Comeback Kids of Ryan traveling some 20 minutes to defend... Our State's #1 Pub Covering the #1 Sport in the World...[ You always say this Father Ryan February team not even resembles the early season team... Something about peaking and maybe about radishes I hear vs The Mighty Big Blue

Old 2007 thread - Who joins the obvious over the past 10 years? A Bear resurgence with Ben Smith? Another now coming up following his Bradley Co. pipeline with the departure of Yost and Phillips? Nelson and Newman filling big shoes of Morgan & Connell? Marshall, Foreman, Gossett and Marshall joining East Tennessee fixtures Price and Brimer? Beech's Roberts and Kramer of WC new Miid-Tenn dominance and top five regulars? And West Tennessee's latest power with Paul Simpson's Arlington High? LETS NOT FORGET, The latest national acclaim up there with some of Simpson's Greatest Ryan teams, perhaps one of the most dominant Tennessee teams - All Time (all divisions), Lewis' Purple Wave. Any others to add?

Here's another soms http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/sports/preps/story/2016/jul/11/red-bank-hires-head-coaches-wrestling-basebal/375302/ Red Bank will have new faces directing its baseball and wrestling programs for the 2016-2017 school year. Ulric Winesburgh is stepping up to replace Shane Turner and Jason Henderson is moving from Lookout Valley to take over for Trey Hicks. Turner is headed to Boyd-Buchanan and Hicks to Notre Dame. "Both coaches come highly recommended," said Red Bank assistant principal Wendell Weathers, who is returning to his alma mater, where he was an outstanding football player and wrestler. "Ulric served as a volunteer assistant coach last year for Shane, and we're very comfortable and extremely excited about hiring him as head coach for this storied program. We're fortunate to get a baseball coach of Jason's caliber. He comes with high recommendations." Winesburgh competed for highly touted Soddy-Daisy and won a state championship his senior year before moving on to the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga. He wrestled there for Chris Bono for a couple of seasons before devoting all his time to academics and then graduating with an education degree. "I was initially a little nervous about taking the job, but then I found out Wendell was going to be in the building and it became a golden opportunity," Winesburgh said. "I like having somebody who's been a head coach to guide me." Weathers served as head wrestling coach for several seasons at Ooltewah before turning those duties over to Bryant Blackmon and stepping into administration as an assistant principal and assistant athletic director. There are big shoes to fill and holes in the lineup. Winesburgh helped Red Bank to the 2016 Class A/AA state duals championship, but the Lions also had numerous seniors on that team. "I have good rapport with a lot of the kids. We graduated a lot of seniors, but we have some really tough kids returning," he said. "We want to build on the base that Shane left, and we have some growing to do as a team." Henderson, valedictorian at Lookout Valley in 2005, has played for and coached under some quality baseball people, including Joel Johnson for three seasons when he was at Bryan College. He also played for David Dinger and coached with Wes Caldwell and Lance Rorex at Lookout Valley.

Here's another missed one from a couple of weeks ago... DNJ All-Area Wrestling Team capsules http://www.dnj.com/story/sports/high-school/2016/06/21/dnj-all-area-wrestling-team-capsules/86172384/ Tom Kreager, tkreager@dnj.com15 days agoFacebookTwitterGoogle Plusmore  HELEN COMER/DNJ All-Midstate Wrestler of the Year, Nick Boykin, a junior at Riverdale High School in Murfreesboro, on Thursday March 24, 2016. FIRST TEAM  Tom Kreager/DNJ Lucas Gaines Lucas Gaines Stewarts Creek, Fr. Weight: 106 Record: 29-12 Why chosen: Gaines finished third in Region 5-AAA and won one match at state.  Tom Kreager/DNJ Jaylen James Jaylen James Stewarts Creek, Jr. Weight: 113 Record: 20-8 Why chosen: James was the Region 5-AAA champion and won two matches at state.  Tom Kreager/DNJ Michael Moultry Michael Moultry Siegel, So. Weight: 120 Record: 43-5 Why chosen: Moultry was the Region 5-AAA champion and won two matches at state.  Tom Kreager/DNJ Daniel Bradford Daniel Bradford Siegel, So. Weight: 126 Record: 37-15 Why chosen: Bradford was the Region 5-AAA runner-up. He won three matches at state.  Tom Kreager/DNJ Carl Templeton Carl Templeton Smyrna, Sr. Weight: 132 Record: 42-11 Why chosen: Templeton was the Region 5-AAA champion. He won two matches at state.  Tom Kreager/DNJ Eric Souksavong Eric Souksavong Stewarts Creek, Sr. Weight: 138 Record: 15-16 Why chosen: Souksavaong placed third in Region 5-AAA to advance to the state meet.  Tom Kreager/DNJ Landon Fowler Landon Fowler Blackman, Fr. Weight: 145 Record: 43-8 Why chosen: Fowler was the Region 5-AAA champion and won three matches at state.  Tom Kreager/DNJ Christian Salter Christian Salter Siegel, So. Weight: 152 Record: 44-5 Why chosen: Salter was the Region 5-AAA champion and won three matches at state.  Tom Kreager/DNJ Matthew Sells Matthew Sells Blackman, Jr. Weight: 160 Record: 49-2 Why chosen: Sells won the Class AAA 160-pound state title and was the Region 5-AAA champion.  Tom Kreager/DNJ John Olivieri John Olivieri Stewarts Creek, Sr. Weight: 170 Record: 39-3 Why chosen: Olivieri placed third at state in Class AAA. He was the Region 5-AAA champion.  Tom Kreager/DNJ Garrett Richards Garrett Richards Oakland, Sr. Weight: 182 Record: 14-5 Why chosen: Richards was the Region 5-AAA champion and won one match at the state meet.  Tom Kreager/DNJ Andre Bravo Andre Bravo Blackman, Sr. Weight: 195 Record: 42-8 Why chosen: Bravo won the Region 5-AAA title and won two matches at state.  Tom Kreager/DNJ Tyler Barber Tyler Barber Stewarts Creek Sr. Weight: 220 Record: 37-6 Why chosen: Barber finished state runner-up in Class AAA at 220 pounds. He also was the Region 5-AAA champion. Nick Boykin Riverdale, Jr. Weight: 285 Record: 45-0 Why chosen: Boykin won his second straight Class AAA 285-pound state title, going undefeated for the second straight year. SECOND TEAM 106: Blaine Fussell, Eagleville, So. 113: Joshua Rodella, Siegel, So. 120: Dylan Coggins, Stewarts Creek, Sr. 126: Gabe Rogers, Stewarts Creek, Jr. 132: Jalen Brown, Blackman, Fr. 138: Elijah Cox, Blackman, Jr. 145: Treavor South, Stewarts Creek, Fr. 152: Ryder Gebhardt, Oakland, So. 160: Drew Gill, Eagleville, Sr. 170: John Williams, Siegel, Sr. 182: Hunter Winters, Blackman, So. 195: Branson Boone, Oakland, So. 220: Chester Peden, Smyrna, Sr. 285: Landen Patterson, Siegel, Sr.  Tom Kreager/DNJ Blackman coach Ronnie Bray was named The Daily News Journal's Wrestling Coach of the Year. Coach of the Year Ronnie Bray Blackman Why chosen: Blackman reached the TSSAA Class AAA state duals this past season after beating Siegel in the Region 5-AAA duals championship. Bray's Blaze also had 11 wrestlers advance to the TSSAA Class AAA individual state tournament.

Here's ya one Sommers... After being selected for Tennessee honors, Pat Simpson of Father Ryan High School in Nashville, Tennessee, was named NWCA Head Coach of the Year. The Irish posted a 22-0 record and claimed state championships at the Division II individual and dual tournaments. http://www.hermistonherald.com/eo/local-sports/20160512/wrestling-tovey-recognized-for-coaching-excellence “Both Coach Simpson and Coach Tovey have long careers in coaching at the high school level and have served as tremendous mentors for our next generation of teachers and coaches,†said NWCA Executive Director Mike Moyer. “One of the hardest things about recognizing great scholastic coaches is there are so many viable and deserving coaches to consider.†Here’s a look at the 2016 Tennessee Sports Writers Association all-state wrestling teams: http://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/high-school/2016/07/03/2016-tswa-all-state-wrestling-teams/86654974/ 2016 TSWA all-state wrestling teams Michael Murphy, mfmurphy@tennessean.com8 hours agoFacebookTwitterGoogle Plusmore Pic Ayrika Whitney / Gannett Tennessee Clarksville Northwest's Jessica Elery. Pic Tennessee Sports Writers Association RELATED: 2016 All-Midstate boys wrestling teamsRELATED: 2016 All-Midstate girls wrestling teams Pic Larry McCormack / The Tennessean Riverdale's Nick Boykin CLASS AAA 106 Charles Wheaton, Soddy-Daisy Brayden Palmer, Beech Rodney Trent, Tennessee Bryce Pond, Cleveland 113 Thomas Hicks, Bradley Central Calvin Martin, William Blount Tolliver Justice, Knox Halls Jon Kost, Rossview 120 Ryan McElhaney, Bradley Central Kyle Burns, Bearden Logan Whiteside, Cleveland Chase Brown, Knox Halls 126 Juan Hernandez, Heritage Joshua LaCoe, Bradley Central Triston Blansit, Cleveland Jack Shrader, Franklin 132 Joseph Munoz, Walker Valley Colton Landers, Cleveland Hunter Parker, Bradley Central Brady Ingram, Independence 138 Knox Fuller, Bradley Central Dewey Pendley, Tennessee Zack Wilkins, Mt. Juliet Matt Meeks, East Hamilton 145 Trevor Rippy, Beech Michael Diemer, Heritage Austin Mathews, Bradley Central Angel Leyva, Gibbs 152 Donnie Beyer, Bradley Central Chris Rowland, Ravenwood Mikel Gregory, Walker Valley Jay Graham, Rhea County 160 Matthew Seals, Blackman Alex Jeffers, Dobyns Bennett Tucker Russo, Soddy-Daisy Colton McMahan, Knox Halls 170 Zach Linton, Wilson Central Tate Holmes, Anderson County John Olivieri, Stewarts Creek Nolan Kennedy, William Blount 182 Kaleb Rippy, Beech Josh Booker, Jefferson County Hunter Fortner, Gibbs Jeremy Spangler, Tennessee 195 Brett Brown, Bradley Central Tyler Reid, Ooltewah Justin Johnson, Stone Memorial Eric M. Cornelius, West Creek 220 Hunter Bagley, Science Hill Tyler Barber, Stewarts Creek Victor Bednarski, Ooltewah Isaiah Demello, Independence 285 Nick Boykin, Riverdale Logan Townsend Jonathan Davis, Gibbs Michael Kramer, Wilson Central  Tim Adkins / Gannett Tennessee Harpeth's Braxton Hunter (right) CLASS A-AA 106 Dymond Smith, Pigeon Forge Elijah Hicks, Sullivan East Jeremy Holloway, Notre Dame Jeffrey Gross, Forrest 113 William Reichel, Red Bank Dylan Pendley, Forrest Caleb York, Pigeon Forge Scott Weaver, Boyd Buchanon 120 Jacob Ruiter, Pigeon Forge Braxton Hunter, Harpeth Garrett Lay, Knox Grace Michael Colon, Alcoa 126 Luke Mullin, Notre Dame Logan Chase, Sullivan East Elias Bond, Pigeon Forge Eric Foster, Stratford 132 Ryan Verhulst, Alcoa Bryson Hux, Greeneville Isaac Yates, Hixson Ned Warwick, Notre Dame 138 Matthew Kieta, Pigeon Forge Andrew Birchett, Page Isaac Coffman, Chattanooga Central Daniel Dawson, Signal Mountain 145 Landon Goforth, Hixson Gabe McDuffie, Red Bank Mitchell Camper, Sycamore Garrin Shuffler, Greeneville 152 Alonso Heyward, Chattanooga Central Josh Vance, Greeneville Gary Reagan, Pigeon Forge Dallas Prater, Cheatham County 160 Austyn Renshaw, Alcoa Josh Croley, Pigeon Forge Drew Gill, Eagleville Daniel Novack, Kingston 170 Jarim Shereef, Alcoa Phillip Nichols, Christian Academy of Knoxville Julian Furr, Montgomery Central Darian Smith, East Ridge 182 Seth Petarra, Signal Mountain Dylan Bargerstock, Hixson Houston Tywater, Page James Hughes, Stratford 195 Devin Crawl, Red Bank Gregory Williams, Nashville Christian Anthony Baiamonte, Pigeon Forge Brian Sledge, Chattanooga Central 220 Nick Foster, Greeneville Grant Brace, Alcoa Toby Lynch, Greenbrier Devon Suddeth, Red Bank 285 Samson Evans, Alcoa Anthony Ottinger, Red Bank Evan Grooms, Greeneville Josh Stiltner, Sullivan East  Larry McCormack / The Tennessean Father Ryan's Raymond Eason DIVISION II 106 Robert Briggs, Christian Brothers James Killian, Father Ryan Carter Coughlin, Knox Webb Joe Walsh, St. Benedict 113 Christian Simpson, Father Ryan Joseph Tourquine, Montgomery Bell Academy Trent Maddox, McCallie School Dalton Kilpatrick, St. Benedict 120 Tray Chalifoux, Father Ryan Gabriel Elkin, Montgomery Bell Academy Trevor Milling, Baylor School Connor Rasberry, Christian Brothers 126 Raymond Eason, Father Ryan Brock Herring, McCallie School Andy Atchley, Baylor School John Michael Glover, Montgomery Bell Academy 132 Kirby Simpson, Father Ryan Jack Reynolds, Baylor School Tanner Tidswell, Christian Brothers Trent Walliser, McCallie School 138 Eli King, Father Ryan Trevor Brown, Christian Brothers Austin Atchley, Baylor School Conner Mitchell, Battle Ground Academy 145 Michael Murphy, Baylor School Ethan Dendy, McCallie School Daniel Wesley, Father Ryan Bryce Wittman, Christian Brothers 152 Mason Reiniche, Baylor School Drew Nicholson, Christian Brothers Will Patton, McCallie School Mark Floyd, Montgomery Bell Academy 160 Judah Duhm, McCallie School Tommy Brackett, Christian Brothers Riley Westlake, Baylor School Drake Mitchell, Franklin Road Academy 170 Caleb Powell, Baylor School Carter Heckle, Montgomery Bell Academy Kevin Pease, St. Benedict Andrew Wesnofske, Father Ryan 182 Khamari Whimper, Baylor School George Hooker, Father Ryan Noah Kurtz, St. Benedict Jake Lindow, St. George’s 195 Ryan Parker, Baylor School Brian Phillips, McCallie School Andrew Sweatt, Christian Brothers Sam Sullivan, Montgomery Bell Academy 220 Ben Stacey, Father Ryan D’On Coofer, Montgomery Bell Academy Isaac Roberts, McCallie School Grayson Walthall, Christian Brothers 285 Jeremy Darvin, Father Ryan Cooper Reiniche, Baylor School River Henry, McCallie School John Kelly, Montgomery Bell Academy GIRLS 105 Katie Brock, Sequatchie County Caitlyn Green, Northeast Tony Shipley, David Crockett Emma Allsbrooks, Montgomery Central 112 Isabella Badon, Daniel Boone Jessyca Mumaw, Hendersonville Nena Chrestman, Sycamore Madeline Davis, Siegel 120 Allison Davis, Sullivan East Halla Woodson, Dickson County Kaitlyn Lee, Mt. Juliet Macy DeBlois, Independence 125 Elise Dille, Cumberland County Shantoia Blackburn, Antioch Leilani Gutierrez, Northeast Lexie Worley, Tennessee 130 Krista Legagneur, Bearden Krista Martin, Tennessee Hollie Yokely, Warren County Kyah St. Marie, Stone Memorial 138 Jessica Elery, Northwest Rachel Dagnan, Signal Mountain Tailor Stole, Ravenwood Alexis Jaynes, Happy Valley 148 Jailah Grimes, Summit Lindsey Morrison, Northwest Abby Mainzer, St. Andrew’s Cailey Griffin, Gibbs 155 Jaydn Sayre-Adona, Northeast Becka Stallard, Volunteer Kayla Johnson, Hillsboro Jayanna Stokes, Montgomery Central 165 Kenya-Lee Sloan, Hardin Valley Keely Sage, Montgomery Central Emily Russell, Munford Kyerra Wall, Greeneville 185 Zaferah Fortune, St. Andrew’s Kaleigh Johnson, Cumberland County Jada Hoskins, Montgomery Central Caitlyn Gilmore, Sycamore

Yes, great sport with good people. It appears Tennessee is getting more exposure lately and is in an upward trend from what I'm hearing from friends and family who get around.

Not to beat dead horse with soms, But get everyone together for what Durdon suggested with a bracket of 8-12 depending on who wants to compete from all divisions invitation. Now this will draw the scouts, boost wrestling interest and revenue

Just keeping you on your toes Here you are http://www.t-g.com/story/2150745.html

Don't believe you caught this one about your brother! .

I see both sides, We always desire for these things to simply go away. Yes, chances were taken and some won matches and rankings were boosted as a result, which pleased the Blue & Gold of UTC, but there's always take aways to hopefully reduce these isolated incidents ...if we respond well with a "glass half full" mentality I believe Soms is trying to get across.

technically correct, although he requested a reinstatement from retirement or a release so he could select a winning program. Not the most popular decision for many packer fans Long story short, good biz move by green bay to move forward Side note: learn your French old man. Farvre