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Full of hammers. The only ones I know personally are Mason and Noah. I love those two kids. They are killers and great kids too. Good families. Garrett wrestled with our HS guys on a couple of dual teams in Iowa. He is awesome too.

You could have made that point without attacking Josh.

Going to be tough again next year for sure.

What can be done @clevelanddad? There is a massive shortage of officials now. What are you going to do brother? Suspend them? Fire them? Who do you get to replace them if that happens? There are good officials and there are bad officials, just like there are good coaches and bad coaches. What needs to happen is we have coaches challenges and video review. It is at every level from youth through the senior level. No reason we should not have it at the duals and traditional state tournaments.

Lol, fair but I am justified right? My challenge win rate has to be over 90% @CarlSpackler88. Heck I even won the challenge when I accidentally hit that official with the brick at 14U duals a couple of years ago.

They looked very good at the traditional. They have some tough guys. Melzoni has done a good job.

Truth

Brother, there has been good and bad officiating in wrestling for the entirety of its history and always will be. The result can’t be changed after the fact so it does no good to complain about it after you state your case. It was stated and also turned over to our athletic director. After that, it’s out of the coaches and athletes control. The fact that you’re insinuating that we don’t care about our kids is my problem. Go and see who has lost the most amount of team points for disputing the officiating in matches. No one fights harder for their athletes than us. The call was not going to change, so you have two options: (1) spend your time and energy crying about it; or (2) spend your time and energy making sure the match is not that close next time.

I thought Posey was a senior? Also, we are returning 5 of our 7 state finalists and 7 of our 11 placers. Our freshman class this upcoming year is killer and all of the ones who make the lineup will contend for a state title next year, so I expect no drop off from this year even with Logan graduating and Lucas moving back to Indiana. Summitt will be good again for sure. I honestly don’t know much about what the other teams are getting back.

I was specifically referring to the arguments FR was making and the criticism that we should not be considered a Fab 50 team by May Scouts. I have no problem with your arguments.

Absolutely @canthide. Just know that it will not do any good so “it is what it is.”

That was exactly my point. We COULD win 7 or more matches against them, so saying we don’t belong seems a little unjustified. I honestly don’t know why anyone feels the need to even say we don’t belong in the first place. Those rankings are simply Mat Scout’s opinion. Our state is getting recognized in a good way by outside observers and people just want to respond by saying “Cleveland is not really a Fab 50 team.” Why not just say good for Cleveland and good for our state @FR615? And before you start talking about hurt feelings, go back and read some of the posts you made after Father Ryan got dropped by McCallie.

You clearly no nothing about the sport of wrestling or TSSAA. There is no procedure for overturning the call, there is no protest, there is no video review. Josh went to the head table and fought for his kid. So yeah, “it is was what it is.” It is certainly not “all about winning” for Josh or Joey. They treat all these kids like their own and are deeply invested in their lives. Josh is a fantastic man and father. People like you sit in the stands and have ZERO understanding of the nature of what we do and what coaches put into these kids. That same man you are criticizing from your golden throne had his kid up early the day after state and training to start doing something about not leaving it in the officials hands next year. Those moments Zac experienced are part of the journey and we view them as opportunities to get tougher. It’s ironic that you are criticizing other people’s comprehension and seem to have none. Here is some free advice, next time you want to publicly criticize how a man parents his son, think twice so you don’t sound like an idiot.

Post what your thinking.

Boom Ranch does not have a staff. Shane is the Boom Ranch coach and he is too busy making boats to recruit.