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About clifford20

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  1. New club team

    I completely agree with you Osage. Good post. K2 is not close to those programs. I think K2 and Alliance are very similar. I do think K2 15's team is solid and will get better with time. I think Alliance 15 team could be really good as well-they need another hitter badly. I thought the 16-1 Alliance team really had a chance to really good team, but they just haven't been consistent enough.
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    I am anxious to see how it plays out as well. I am less concerned about the facility and more about coaching. There will def be moving back and forth from both sides. Honestly, it makes the product better when that happens. With the new club director at Alliance, I think things will be fine.
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    It will be interesting to see how Alliance changes with Ann. Another big issue will be the facility next year.
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    I do agree that Alliance is way behind KIVA and Munciana, however I don't think they are behind K2 top to bottom. K2 is not at the M'ana or KIVA level either. K2 and Alliance 15's beat Munciana-both in 2 sets fairly easy. I would have loved to see K2 and Alliance 15's play. Alliance beat them badly last year. Alliance 15 lost to Kiva red 23 and 22. It was a good match. I do like K2's club a lot. I always come away being impressed with their athletes. It's impressive what they have built. Top alliance teams just can't complete with top 20-30 teams consistently. Just too many holes in their line ups. The overall skill of their athletes just isn't there. Speaking of the 18's alliance team. I heard that Logan will be enrolling at Texas this summer and graduating early. Big news for the 2-3 other teams in the state that actually have a chance at beating them in AAA. They will still win the state easily IMO.
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    Coach Foster has always done a really good job no matter where she coached. Hated to see how it ended for her in chatt. Lot's of respect. Is ACE a club? Not sure I understand your question about cost. Just glad they are coaching.
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    I would agree with that. 4th place is solid for a first year club team. Did anyone see how the upper level 15-18 K2 teams looked?
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    I thought Union looked the strongest of the teams. There were several teams that didn't make it for weather. I can't honestly decide if Alliance has improved that much, or if Union and Tsu digressed. Union has always been a really good club and they had some really solid teams there.
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    anyone see good volleyball this weekend? I was able to see several of the Alliance Teams play. I came away impressed with the 15 and 16 teams-they are both better than last year. It will be interesting to see how the 18 team develops. The competition was pretty weak, as expected. Several clubs dropped out for weather. There was a young MidTn team that looked good. 12's maybe? I am not sure. The setting and ball control for the older MidTn teams struggled, but there was some solid talent here and there.
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    I have not heard of a bunch quitting. I do know that they offered a kid a position that was already on an Alliance team-which I believe is against the JVA by laws. Once a kid is on a team, they are not supposed to be offered a position. Other than that, it has been quiet. I know a couple of families that are playing there that appear to be happy. The question will be once they start playing. Can't wait to see how the first tournament this weekend goes. Anxious to see the 16-1 team with 2-3 new faces.
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    I haven't seen anything. However the tournament schedules and pools are up for the MLK tournament this weekend at A-game. Is TP playing this weekend?
  11. New club team

    Can't wait for this tournament. Very impressive line up.
  12. New club team

    Really interesting post. We can't compare KIVA with any club in Tn--we are miles behind them. I do think K2 has done incredibly well and it is interesting to compare the 2 clubs. I don't necessarily determine the success or failure of a club by how many D-1 athletes are placed. That is certainly one of the big indicators though. There is no question that the disconnect in the mid state starts at the middle school age kids (IMO). I can't speak to the other areas. I think that Alliances coaching at the very young age can certainly be better. Not saying it is bad. Our best technical coaches need to be in 9-12 year olds. I completely disagree though that the players don't have some ownership in this. If the players have no ownership-then what are we suggesting? That is 100% coaching? 100% club? Good topic. (separate topic) I noticed your user name is Rutherford County VB and I have a serious question for you (you may not have a good answer). I have long wondered why RUCO volleyball is not developing at all. There is one good program there that is successful. I just don't see any reason why Riverdale, Oakland, Smyrna, Laverge, Stewarts Creed, Blackmon, to be so poor in volleyball. It is really confusing. I just feel like that county should be every bit as successful as Wilco. I know the club there is not good, but I still think it should be way better.
  13. New club team

    Good stuff. I agree with TPV being a positive. I really hope that it pushes Alliance more. Ethos and West really hasn't done that. I agree with some of your points about Alliance. However there are many kids that made 1's as 12-13-14 that didn't make 1's with older and vice versa. I can think have 6-8 with no effort just in a couple of age groups. The reason Alliance doesn't perform well IMO is because most of the kids in the mid state get serious about volleyball in 7th grade or so. Thus missing out on ball control from 9 year olds and up. This might sound weird but the Pat Summit effect in our state hurt volleyball. Every girl in the state started playing BBall at 5, where volleyball was picked up in HS or MS in the 80's and 90's. not until the 2000's did it start to really improve here. Late 90's and early 2000's maybe 1 kid played club on HS teams (out side of the Wilco, Father Ryan etc). I do disagree with the way our young teams have been coached in the past. There is no reason for a 11-12 team to pick a libero in the beginning of the year and that kid stay in that position all year. Or a OH not play back row etc. I can remember watching a 12 Team years ago that had a libero and neither OH played back row. That is not good. I hope Alliance has fixed some of that.
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    Oh I agree O. Maybe 2 at the most of those kids will play in a power 5 conference-including Shay. It is so hard to say with a bunch of 8-9 graders. Majority will be NAIA/D2 and lower D1--which is still incredible. So many of the parents just don't know how important the tournaments that they play in. I've been around high school and club parents for 20 years or more, and they always surprise me about that. I am certain they will play in AAU nationals.
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    That won't go over too well for sure. Especially once they see the weakness of those tournaments. There are 3-4 kids off that 14's team that received quite a bit of major recruiting action. The fact they played A5 at nationals, and also made the final 8 was huge for those kids.