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What a hoot!! You truly provided us with a "knee-slapper!" Ha-Ha, Ha-Ha , Ha-Ha...How original, How witty, How do you do it?

I was not talkikng about non-revenue producing sports. I was talking about a Head Football Coach! The difference between your position and the Head Coach at a place such as Hillsboro, Maryville, etc. can best be described in two words....Community interest and Finances. While you may have a half dozen supporters for your program a a cross country meet, hundreds or thousands sit in the stands on Friday nights. They bring the money that supports your sport and they sit as judge and jury for your counterpart, the Head Football coach. The jury verdict is based on the points on the scoreboard. As I said, do a great 25 cent per hr. job and a lousy 50.00 dollar an hr. job and be the ###### of the walk in the community. Do a great 50.00 dollar an hr. job and a pitiful 25 cent hr. job and you will find For Sale signs in your yard and representatives from moving companies calling your home. I truly appreciate you and your efforts in the classroom, however, make no mistake about it..The difference in the two is as different as night and day.

I understand what you are saying. My point is this. Coaching is a profession (teaching is necessary to obtain a coaching job). The question is "Is a coach actually hired as a teacher with coaching duties, or is he/she hired as a coach, that may or not have to in fact teach?" You know an interesting question that could be asked to witness that had been members of a search committee at a large school with a great athletic tradition and background when coaches were interviewed..."How many and what were the questions during the interview involved adacemia." I think the answer would give us all the answer as to what position it was the intent of the school system to fill and what it deemed to be important. (I'll give you one ex. that I know of this year...A school with a history of poor performing football teams offered a coach and his staff a 3 year contract, which would insure tenure for that group. That means no evaluations, etc. Now do you think these people were going to be hired to teach? What do you think a judge would think if this question were asked in court to establish whether an employee was hired to be a coach or teacher?

You are correct in one sense...however, when an administrator is moved back to a classroom, again it is not considered a dismissal or suspension but rather a transfer within the system. This is perfectly legal as long as it is not done for improper reasons. If a plantiff can provide proof of improper reasons, l.e. Discrimination as an ex., He or She is entitled to relief as deemed fit by the courts. As far as a coach is concerned, (let's use one with tenure as a teacher for example) he/she may be transferred within a school system (shipped off to another school) with absolutely NO RIGHTS ...UNLESS ..Some type of improper motive was behind the transfer. Prove it with facts and the transfer become invalid and damages (according to the extent) are ruled on. Hoperfully for the plantiff, in proving improper motivesw, punitive damages can be awarded along with actual damages. We are..Still in America.

My understanding is that there are two suits pending awaiting a court date.

What a fallacy!!! Do you really think schools hire coaches (ex. Head Football Coach) because they are outstanding teachers. Most job boards advertise for a coach and don't even mention teaching positions. The cloak that School Boards hide behind is "Coaching is an extracurricular activity" and "Coaches are hired as teachers first". Consider the case of a coach that demonstrates outstanding teaching abilities, and his students perform at a particularly high level. Now let's assume that this great teacher/coach goes 1-9 at a school that traditionally wins region championships and misses the playoffs. Let it happen a second time and he's out! A teacher will earn anywhere from 45.00 to 68.00 per hour. Now before you start howling, remember a teacher is on a 190 day contract. With lunch and one off period look for that teacher to be in the classroom approximately 5.5hrs per day. Multiply 5.5 x 190 and you get the actual number of hrs. worked. Divide the annual salary by this number to get the rate of hourly pay. Do the same thing for a coach. Start in the Spring, include the weight program, spring practice, then add summer conditioning, Fall practice, Friday night games, Sat. washing, lifting etc.. Total these hrs and see what you get...Hundreds of hours. Divide the coaching supplement by the number of hrs. and look at the difference between pay. In Memphis, many coaches rate of pay comes out less than .25 cents per hr. NOW...Let's assume a coach does a lousy job in the classroon but a great job on the field, gym,etc.. Guess what...He/She is great. Now let's assume this same coach does a great job in the classroon but is a loser on the field or gym floor and more than likely they are gonna get canned. This translates to...Do a lousy 50.00 to 60.00 dollar an hr. job but a great .25 cent an hour job, here comes tenure and accolades. Do a great 50.00 to 60.00 dollar an hr. job but a poor .25 cent an hour job, you get canned! Does something look wrong here? The fact is (and has been accepted in numerous courts across the South) that now Coaches are being reconigized as what they are..Coaches. The courts have ruled in numerous cases that coaches have the same rights and protection as teachers. That's the way it should be!! Do you think Melrose hired the guy with 4 Super Bowl Rings because he's a great teacher? Do you think Coach Gaddis at Henry was hired for his expertise in the classroom. No! He was hired to turn the football program around. What about George Quarrles at Maryville. How many classes do you think he teaches? Check the successful programs around the state and you'll find that most Head Coaches at large schools with traditionally successful athletic programs teach either one, or no classes. They sit in lunchrooms, studyhalls, serve as ADM. Assts. etc. Let's get real here. Now I generally don't give out information for free, I'm going to here because I am SICK of watching these atrocities happen. I will refer you to a case called White v. Banks (Cited as Tenn, 614 S.W.2d 33). The law states... "Relieving a teacher-coach of his coaching duties alone is not a "dismissal or suspension" of the teacher, but is equivalent to a transfer within the system and is goverened by transfer statue under Teacher Tenure Act. Now...here comes the IMPORTANT part. The transfer and dismissal of a coach is a transfer as long as "IT IS MADE IN GOOD FAITH, FOR THE EFFICIENT OPERATION OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, AND IS NOT ARBITRARLY, CAPRICIOUSLY, OR DUE TO POLITICAL OR IMPROPER MOTIVES. (Guess what..Racial discrimination falls in here!) To win in court one must demonstrate and provide facts, witnesses, etc to show that a discriminatory act did in fact occur. The days of the "change in direction, etc" are fast coming to a close for improper dismissals by school boards.

One explanation is found on 4A board. Will be interesting to see if any others in a similar situation, present or past have any comments.

In case you weren't aware of it, there is something called fair practice in this country regarding job employment! Consider the type of system you have in the MCS. When Weedon resigned his position at Memphis State and accepted the position of AD with the city, numerous coaches within the system went to the board of education complaining that they did not want a "white" AD. Guess what! Weedon was called in by then Supt., Dr House and the job offer was rescinded. He was only able to retain the position by threatening to file a Fed. law suit. Facts are facts! How many white head coaches are in the system. Of approximately 27 schools, I think that only Central and Cordova have coaches that are white. The numbers say that 25 are black and only 2 are white. Do little bells go off here? I know of numerous coaches that have applied for positions within the city that were more than qualified and were denied with the explanation "We feel we need a black coach to serve as a role model for our predominately black students." This is unacceptable! I believe if you check, and I have, you'll find a policy statement by the board saying "All employment decisions are based on QUALIFICATIONS, EXPERIENCE, AND JOB PERFORMANCE". How does the city explain the fact that quality, proven coaches have applied for positions and coaches with no or little experience have been hired over them? I think you know the answer. I only wish people like Weedon and others that have been turned down for jobs, or replaced with NO EXPLANATION OR CAUSE would flood the law offices in Memphis. Weedon's case is simply another in a LONG line of people that have been replaced simply because of the color of their skin! Through the years, the civil liberties of employees and prospective employees have been stepped on by this group. It is inexcuseable, and totally unacceptable in today's society, yet it is allowed to happen time and time again. There is an old saying that goes, "Evil prevails when good men sit idly by and do nothing." Hopefully, someone like Weedon will choose to "do something."

How will Haywood's team this year compare with last years? Are they going to continue to run the wing t or something new? What are they going to run on defense this year? Overall, how do you see them stacking up in the region?

Word is out today that Memphis City Schools Athletic Director is out. My understanding is that no reason was given other than "your services are no longer required!" Wonder where the City Schools , since they can't find funding to handle the 08 school budget are going to find the money to fight all the lawsuits that they face. Here should be another!!!

Hard to judge? ....You've gotta be kidding. Melrose, the cream of the crop, Fairley, solid lock for second, the rest...well, Northside is under the direction of a new coach. (and I use the term "coach" loosely here). Raleigh-Egypt put East out of the playoffs last year and I see nothing changing in that regard. Kingsbury has the Hunter kid coming back but what else? Either way K'bury outcoaches everyone else. So...here's your finish! l. Melrose 2. Fairley 3. Kingsbury 4. R.E. 5. East (sencond year in a row denied a playoff spot) 6.N.S. (Looking for the first win in 3 years...Keep looking!)

How will the Chargers match up as they take on the Roadrunners? Last year the Mercy Rule went into effect as soon as the second half started against White Station. Will we see a better game, or more of the same?

Coach Rudolph dedicated his life to working with young men and helping them develop not only as athletes, but as gentlemen. To devote one's time and energy to such an undertaking is truly noble. The lives he touched are innumberable and he will truly be missed. Missed but not forgotten! My prayers go out to the family and to the MUS family.

Along with crime, corruption, etc. Let's see if he avoids indictment for his latest scam at FW!

Also understand from a very reliable source, Millington has been shopping a few miles to the North for a running back. Needless to say, if I've heard it, the coaches up there have also. Fireworks could be flying soon!!!!

Went back and checked..and I stand corrected. They lost to Brighton, however won the tie-breaker that allowed them to finish as the runner-up in the region. Thanks for correcting me. I do like to get things right! Have a good day!

Had to go back and check a couple of facts. The flood of transfers totaled exactly 3. (Hardly a flood in my book). As for how they did last year, they did get beat and badly by Henry, but they did win every other region game and finished runner-up in the region...Not bad by previous Munford standards! The only question that I have is who will you rag on after this year since I understand the changes by the TSSAA will place you in another region from Munford? Let it go...Henry and Munford will play this year. You are the favorite. Let's see what happens!! Also, let's see how far you go..You haven't made it to the dance yet...Let's see how you fare this year.

Why can't you let two years ago...GO! You and others couldn't handle the fact that MHS beat you and others in the region that you normally wouldn't expect. Well they did!...and the accusations began to fly. All you and others like you did was to sully the names of people you knew nothing about. Well, your accusations were not substantiated and you have the audacity to continue on and on and on. You and others like you would fit well into the Memphis City System, for the cry heard throughout the city every Friday night wailed by losing teams is "WE WAS CHEATED!" The all-time explaination for individual's failure. Is this what you really want to represent?

If "yammering" were an olympic event, you would be the hands-down favorite to take the gold! (That's worldwide champion to you)! YAMMER ON "REALGAME'. In fact, I would be SHOCKED if you didn't!

Hate to burst your bubble, but Memphis East will not be very good this year. Maplewood should be in control from the get-go. Trezevant will be athletic, but in the end, not good enough for Pearl. Look for the two Memphis teams to crash and burn!!

Again...Where can I buy this "good" book in the Memphis area? Also, when will it be available? I'm interested in seeing it!

Where and when can you buy the magazine in the Memphis area?

If you had truly read any on MY posts over the last several years, you would know that I DO NOT officiate ANY games in Tipton Co. involving Munford! You would also remember that one's name and character can in no way be compared to what happens on any Friday night involving a high school football game. As for helping you with the definition of yammering...it simply means to go on and on and on and on, generally over something trivial and meaningless. You are absolutely correct when you say that you DO IN FACT YAMMER! In fact, you seem to specialize in the subject.

What posts were you reading two years ago? I am now and have been friends with several of the coaches up at Munford...What about it! There was, nor has there ever been any arrogance. I acknolwedged that they seemed to make some significant progress compared with what the program had been in the past. Your staff at Henry Co. has made significant progress with the program there over the last several years. Does that make me arrogant for recognizing that and stating so as fact? Why don't you get over the yammering and just support your team and don't begrudge anyone else from supporting theirs!

Your statement..not his!