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I think the rule book might actually mention 1/2" foam padding all around the cast -though I'm not sure I'd allow bubble wrap. And the doctor's note is a must.

I watched a boys regional final a couple of years ago, when after the game, the ref got a little overzealous and red carded several players from Madison Academic. The players who weren't seniors had to sit out the first two games of the next season. As to the faint lines, referee's could call a game and not allow it to be played because of the lines, but I imagine VERY few coaches would ever want a game called because of faint lines. At worst, it would seem more reasonable to bring it up with the coaches who should make sure the players are aware. I've been in many a game where the lines were faint, though usually its the sidelines. Did a game just last week where the grass had been cut short the day before and the cutting made all the lines very faint. And been in down pours where the lines disappeared in the middle of the game. But the games go on "as if the lines existed". An unfortunate event.

Shelby Jordan, midfielder, 9th grade, Univ School of Jackson On the Tennessee Olympic Development 94 team. I refereed a game in Nashville with her in it and she was probably the best player on the pitch. INCREDIBLE speed.

ref2coach, thanks for the catch. I stand corrected.

Luke Hartman from Goodpasture Christian School would have be included in this list. He led an regular season unranked Goodpasture team to the state quarterfinals. Goodpasture was involved in two shootouts in post season play - in the District final against CPA (11th in state) and in the Regional final against White House Heritage (3rd in the state). In those two pk shootouts, Luke stopped 4 of 8 pk shots taken at him. An incredible feat by any goalie standards. And in a losing effort, impressively held Knoxville Catholic to two goals on 26 shots on goal.

Agreed, you only call what you see - if you don't see it you can't call it. Which is why I said I would hope he truly believed that he saw the ball go over the line. That should have been the only reason he made that call.

Thoughts. Can't believe after all the chatter about Catholic and CAK that no one would have started this yet. Having watched both of them play on Wednesday evening, I don't see how anybody's going to beat the Irish. They seem to be hitting on all cylinders right now.

Oops. Guess that was one of those Freudian slips. Either one fits interchangeably. So CJFM, what about both of those publics? Same question. But I already know your answer because you public/private split proponents don't want to address the real issue of students attending other schools from outside their own districts - which publics and magnets also do - you just want to penalize only the privates. Shouldn't every public and magnet who do this have the multiplier imposed and be forced into another division with the privates?

So tell me what you're gonna do with Maryville - a public school that allows students (athletes) to transfer into their school from out of their school district? They've won the 2A football championship for like 5 years in a row. Isn't this the same thing you accuse the privates of doing? So publics do the exact same thing.

Everybody sees something different on the soccer field. And its for this reason why most referees usually don't consider fan, player or coach input when making calls. We can't. Consider the play described. The play was described as a long pass that went all the way to the goal line. I know VERY few refs that can keep up with these 17 & 18 year old studs when they are racing at full speed after a ball. Face it, MOST refs in this situation are going to be behind the play. It was a tough call and I'm sure the ref made his decision on what he truly believes he saw.

Actually this discussion need to take place in the General Discussions under Public/Private Debate.

OK, got it. Officiating soccer is all angles and position. Don't imagine the call was intentional, but the ref didn't help himself if he was behind the play. Tough call. Glad it wasn't me.

It was a good game, played hard by both teams. Madison had a chance to tie the score on a direct kick from about 35 yards out with under a minute to play. Nick DeSeo hooked the ball over the top of the wall, had the goalie beat, and it hit the crossbar - BB wins. An incredible shot - missed by 4 inches. It was pretty to watch. Congrats BB.

Good comments Hoya. I think Hendersonville suffered from those lessons yesterday. From what I heard, they outplayed their opponent all game, only to lose by 1. That's soccer.

Trying to picture this goal/no goal. Broomer, you say the ball did not cross the line, but then say it was a legit goal???? Yet it has to fully cross the line to be a goal. Ok, so ball is lofted over the goalie and is then apparently on the line. then a hville player gets a foot on it - before it fully crosses the line?? Does he go ahead and put it into the back of the net, or did it stay at the line. Was play stopped by a whistle, or was the ball then cleared? Did goalie get it? Was it pulled back or kicked out by a defender None of the descriptions really describe what happened once the ball was on the line.

Top 10 All-Time 1. David Russell Weatherly HS PA, 94 goals, 2002 2. Michael Richardson Surry HS NC, 92 goals, 2002 3. Sean Shapert Pennsylvania, 88 goals, 1993 4. Michael Richardson Surry HS, NC 87 goals, 2001 5. Steven Bush Myrtle Beach SC, 85 goals, 1976 6. Will Wolford North Tahoe NV, 83 goals, 2000 7. Jason McLaughlin Wetumpka AL, 80 goals, 2002 8. Gregory Douglass Kingswood HS TX, 73 goals, 1984 8. Jason Garey St. Amant HS LA, 73 goals, 2001 10. Robert Meschback Gordon Tech I,L 71 goals, 1983 Tennessee Andy Metcalf, University School 65 goals, 2001

Goodpasture has played 3 defenders and a sweeper all season - just like a million other teams. And the irish were inside our mids ALL night long - so not sure that would be considered packing the box. Holding Catholic to 2 goals on 26 shots on goal, from a team of that quality does say something about GPs defense. And I don't think your 26 shots on goal are counting AT LEAST as many shots that were blocked directly by the GP defense from going in on goal. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to take away anything from the irish, their win was convincing and their skill level was incredible - and in the end it doesn't matter whether the score was 1-0 or 15-0. Irish win. Irish advance. But that said, the irish only scoring two goals wasn't from their lack of trying or opportunities, or being merciful - it was because that was about the only thing GP did with any success all night - keep all those irish shots from going in. And despite the loss, that's something GP can certainly be proud of. Go Cougars. Good luck Irish.

I would agree on your assessment of the game. Catholic did dominate in most aspects of the game. However, the score didn't show it because Goodpasture's defense and goalie deserve a lot of credit for their efforts which kept Catholic from running the score up. Afterall, what was the count on shots on goal - 100 to 5?? I don't believe they scored on any direct drive in on the goal, instead their only two goals both came on one touch amazing kicks off of hard rebounds. Again, congrats Irish. By the way, out of curiosity - how many of Catholic's players play travel ball. D1 or D2? It showed.

Congratulations to Knox Catholic for a very well played game tonight against Goodpasture. Good luck as the tournament moves forward. Having said that, CONGRATULATIONS also to Goodpasture for a turnaround season and a run to the state tournament. Despite playing a team tonight that clearly had more talent, holding Knox Catholic to only 2 goals was a feat that GP should be VERY proud of.

Tacky, tacky. Not bad for Madison get to the big dance when the school been in existence for less than 5 years, and been to 2 sectionals and regionals. Districts, then regionals, then sectionals, now the State tournament. I'd say they're building a tradition. My guess is the original poster just phrased the question wrong. But your post was simply in poor taste.

The cinderella team would have to be Goodpasture Christian School. 12-5 and winning by defense. Two shutouts in the post season, and two wins (against #4 White House Heritage and #10 CPA) in shootouts with their goalie, Luke Hartman, stopping 4 of 8 kicks in the two shootouts. I know there's a lot of good teams out there, but don't take Goodpasture for granted.

It doesn't matter what the parents and the fans think we play by, we play by NFHS. A. Disqualify the goalie, award the goal. Kick off from midfield. Goalie is replaced buts team plays down a player. B. Disqualify the goalie, award a PK. Goalie is replaced but team plays down a player. C. Disqualify the goalie, award a PK. Goalie is replaced but team plays down a player. In the third situation, there could be some judgement involved as to whether it was an obvious opportunity to score if another player was able to make a play on the ball. However, there would still be a foul resulting in a PK. Goalie might not be ejected. And of course the awarding of the PK would only be done if the foul was in the penalty box. Otherwise it would be a direct kick from the spot of the foul.

Ok, first of all, i did say that language should be looked at in the context of the play and game, and whether there had been previous warnings. You're the one making the big deal over "incidental". Let me try this one more time - even incidental language can be offensive. So simply being incidental can't be your only criteria to judge the language. And please don't rationalize curse words, profanity and the like to players who read this post. Don't let them get a red card because you made them think it was ok to curse, as long as its incidental. It doesn't belong in the game. Period. That said, judgement is never left out of those decisions. And if a coach does move here from the North, using language which is not acceptable here in the South. I'd be more than happy to give him a lesson in acceptable language on soccer fields in Tennessee. Coming from the North is not an acceptable excuse for being profane, vulgar or offensive. Its not Tennessee rules, its NFHS rules.

Gotta disagree with you on this one, blankguy. A player or a coach use G D, and they'll be looking at a red card from me. I don't care whether its directed or not directed, or incidental. Next to the f word and the n word, its probably the next most offensive word, (in my opinion) a player or coach could use. Red Card. Again, coaches know the rules of language and need to be prepared to accept responsibility for their language as well.

Blankguy, actually the NFHS rule book states that simply "using" the language is enough for disqualification. It DOES NOT have to be directed at anyone to draw a red. Imagine a player missing a goal and yelling - at no one - several expletives. It may be incidental, but its also offensive. Red Card, despite being incidental and not directed at anyone. The point of the previous post was that there's a lot of leeway for referees to use a lot of judgement, either way, with regards to the multiple rules dealing with language. Personally, I'm pretty tough on language so don't have any issue with ANY card for language. Players know the rules - they shouldn't be trying to test the definitions of the rules or the differences between yellow, red or yellow/red.