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This is an Ensworth-BA thread. Great game, Tigers. Two talented defenses did a great job of holding two outstanding offenses. But I'm still setting the record straight. rt's comment: "that number trends close to what it has in the past," just isn't true. In no year since EHS opened have 30 kids or more gone to MBA (the pre-EHS average). Not even close. One year 16 or so sixth graders went, some returned. But your statement is not correct. I am an adult. I saw my first MBA game in the '70s, and I am a fan. Do you have kids at Ensworth? I do. I assure you I know what I am talking about. And if a child leaves a school 4th or 5th grade to avoid pressure to go to a high school I believe the problem lies with his parents.

redtwin:"Out of curiousity do you know how many of the boys you listed attended Ensworth in the 6th grade?" No, but while you're comparing schools, why does it matter? MBA doesn't have a 6th grade. You consistently have posted on Ensworth threads that MBA still gets consistent numbers from EMS, which really isn't true. Again, speak to someone in EMS admissions. As is traditional, some boys leave after 6th grade when MBA begins. Some boys leave after middle school ends. But not as many as before EHS. And some boys come back to EHS after attending MBA. The 7th grade at Ensworth is larger than the 6th grade, so there's automatically an influx of new kids in addition to those admitted due to attrition. Again, my family is a part of both school communities. We're happy. But I can also tell you that EHS supporters, arrogant or not, aren't discussing whether or not MBA is crumbling because of EHS. Other than here on Coacht T, the issue doesn't come up -- among the parents or the students. EHS is coed, with a curriculum based on a unique educational model, and has approximately 190 alums. Those alums, as far as I know, don't spend a lot of time discussing MBA's matriculation rates, either. Just trying to set the record straight.

redtwin: "EMS has less 8th graders than EHS has spots in 9th grade and on top of that a lot of the 8th graders don't go to EHS." Your statement is half correct: if all the EMS kids went to EHS, half of each class would come from outside EMS. Since EHS opened, an average of 85 percent or more of each EMS class has gone on to EHS, with the other 15 percent having chosen boarding schools, MBA, Harpeth Hall, St. Cecelia, USN, Hume Fogg and others. Also, off the top of my head, 09 EHS Football players Reeve, Cooper, McDermott, Fentress, Crenshaw, Campbell, Beaird, Tollison, Reuther, Anderson, Bowers, Dingess, Sacks and others attended EMS.

vandyhoosier, What does Darkwa's academic profile look like? I've heard he has quite a bit of interest.

earlier post: Actually his thoughts represent a fairly large contingent of the MBA community. The win-loss record in a series has little correlation to the degree of a rivalry. Also, the "many MBA supporters involved in kicking off EHS" is actually a quite small number of very vocal individuals than what an uniformed outsider would be led to believe. If you look at the matriculation of EMS students to MBA and the number of EMS alums (who then went on to MBA/HH) who are now enrolling their children at schools other than EMS, you will see that there are plenty of people who don't agree with the vocal minority. I would rank MBA's rivals in the order of: 1. Ryan 2. BA 3. EHS Could EHS work it's way up that list over time? Sure, we'll see what happens I am a member of both the MBA and EHS communities. I have no idea to what MBA "contingent" and "vocal minority" you refer. Students? Or parents? EHS is new enough that the kids there consider almost every other local school a rival. Rather than an "obnoxious" sibling, EHS has a positive atmosphere where students show have little tolerance for belitting of others. You have your "matriculation" facts wrong. EMS (Ensworth Middle School) sends between 80 to 90 percent of its graduates each year to EHS. The traditional, pre-EHS kids who leave after 6th grade to go to MBA, boarding school or any other school have dropped dramatically since EHS opened seven years ago. Anyone in admissions at EMS would be happy to give you more history and details. As for rivalries, I'm guessing that you, to be so concerned with where its middle school students "matriculate," consider Ensworth a pretty big threat -- the fact remains that MBA is casting a much wider net than ever, and is proud to include kids from more zip codes than ever before. I'm sure anyone in admissions at MBA would be happy to fill you in. And by the way, almost everyone involved in starting EHS is an MBA alum or parent. I sure hope to see you and the MBA team at the playoffs in November! I'll be on the orange side. Maybe you don't consider MBA-EHS a true rivalry but I would bet the crowd at a state playoff game would come close to breaking attendance records.

??? Others have a right to express an opinion but our comments are way out of line? Not certain I'm following you, "Rightnow." How about discussing football, for heaven's sake.

Cloud, et al, let's review: 1. No one is forced to go to a DII school. If you don't like how things are run, you are free to take your tuition dollars and go elsewhere. If you qualify for financial aid, good for you. 2. There is a lot of quality football in DII. Fine coaches, great kids. If you do not like how things are run in DII, watch elsewhere or have a chat with TSSAA. High School sports are like nothing else. It's all heart, on its best days. When parents get involved, the spirit degrades a bit. Whether kids go on to play at MTSU, or Ivy League, is usually a matter of funds. Most DII kids can handle the academic work, especially the athletes. Again, kwoodruff was right: unless you have seen the test scores, shut the heck up. Your comments on this board say far more about you than they do about the great Tennessee kids who play high school football, whatever the high school team or where they can afford to go to college (full ride, partial, close to home, etc.) Many factors affect college decisions, not just athletic talent. Back to football, and EHS v MBA. Haven't heard enough about MBA's players like Fitz Lassing, Brad Bars? What happened? I expected them to put up more of a struggle Friday night -- especially after watching Lassing beast his way, in the 2nd half, to beating Maplewood last week. Both EHS and MBA seemed rattled after Colbert suffered a concussion and was carried off the field, but MBA was down by 3 TDs by that time, late in the 2nd qtr (28 -7?). Not as much fun for fans, either, after that. Who has insight on who did what in the first half, when this game seems to have been decided?

OOps -- that link goes to the Ensworth lower school. The Oakland-Ensworth game will be played at the high school campus, west on Hwy 100, just past Old Hickory and the Warner Parks.

To quote Kwoodroof: Odd...none of the Ensworth supporters have offered congrats to BA, or wished them good luck next week. Hmmmmm.... Perhaps not this site, but quite a few did in person. The game was quality entertainment, and to a person every fan and player I encountered had only positive comments about the referees, the players on both teams and their coaches. The EHS team had played and won 11 games, giving it their all, and by last night the sidelines, as one parent put it, looked like a MASH unit. It didn't help that both of EHS's "star" backs were injured in the first half, Tavarres with an ankle sprain and Orleans with a possible concussion. In wet weather the game was a great effort on both sides, and for the most part great fun to watch. BA absolutely brought their "A" game and kept it up for four quarters, and for that they earned a big win. I believe many serious fans have moved on from this site, possibly because of the number of unsupervised middle schoolers with internet access. Which is too bad, as the informed posters truly contribute to the marketplace of ideas and can make football season more fun for the dedicated spectator. BA's players, coaches and parents deserve sincere congratulations and carry with them many best wishes to Murfreesboro.

To set the record straight: from MBA's website: For the 2006-2007 academic year, MBA had 15 semifinalists in the National Merit Scholar Competition. As the article stated, in MBA's list for 2007-2008, which was announced in July, the count was 7. Ensworth's was 6.

Looks like there is plenty of frustration about the child leaving his old school. You should know that the child and members of his family approached the new school, with great enthusiasm. Not the other way around. By all accounts the school and its representatives have been extremely thorough in this case and in others. I find it difficult to blame anyone who weighs his options, and I doubt Ensworth was the only private school the family visited. Very often, misunderstandings arise when folks weigh in without the facts. Consult pages 13 and 14 in the TSSAA handbook, revised Sept. 2008, regarding financial aid and recruiting in Division II.

Speaking of nurturing -- since you know their names and where they go to school, perhaps you should contact the boys, or their parents, directly and leave their names off of this forum.

Sorry to confuse... I meant "scored while playing against Baylor" because so few have managed to do so. Baylor's Talented Keeper and tough defense, and their entire very quick team, are all deserving of accolades as well.

I nominate for all-state: all the players who have scored on Baylor! What a team and a treat to watch.

Wow, 3yards, you consistenly find a way to mention MBA in a thread about EHS. IF you read the article, you will see that the article is not about Ensworth. It's also full of inaccuracies and omissions -- omitting, for example, that Ensworth High School was established primarily by MBA parents and graduates after years of research. It's co-ed. It's happy. It isn't trying to be MBA. One true item was the mention that EHS, with a first graduating class of about 85 students, had one fewer National Merit Scholar than MBA had.