I agree veerman I myself am not trying to start an argument. I was just responding to cgalum about claiborne and there kids quiting last year or whatever he was trying to say about last year's game. I enjoy watching all kinds of football games if it's bell, middlesboro, claiborne or c.g. i am just a fan. not to mention i am good friends with coaches at both schools of claiborne and gap. I have known claiborne's D.C. for along time and he is a very good coach. Matter of fact the only time claiborne beat c.g. he was part of the scheme that held c.g. spread to 6 points. I also know the shipley's they are good friends of mine as well. They also are good coaches but coaches can only do so much with what they have that is all I was trying to say.