Don't blame the K-8 teachers. I teach middle school 6-8, and we do all we can with what we have. HS wants to blame middle, middle wants to blame k-5, and the college wants to blame HS. Kids are going to college and they have to take remedial classes for 2 years. I have seen hundreds of kids have failing grades, but get socially promoted to the next grade. I know at my school we can not give a grade lower than a 60, no matter what the kid makes. I don't know where it starts, but I can assure you that most K-8 teachers are as qualified as HS. It should be a community effort, with the student, parents, and teachers helping each other. I'm sure almost all teachers will meet the Pres qualifications by 2005, somehow someway