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the word at the tournament is that #1-pieroni is having back trouble and only pitched a limited amount. #2-bagwell pitched most of the games i saw goodpasture play over the playday. devon, the eighth grader, pitched when the #2 had probably pitched her limit of games for the play day. it doesn't matter a lot, because they play awesome defense behind whatever pitcher is on the mound.

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The 16u Tennessee Twisters will host the 2nd annual Triple Creek Classic at Triple Creek Park in Gallatin on May 7-9, 2004. This is a NSA State Qualifier with a four game minimum, pool play/single elim, weather permitting. The entry deadline is May 4 and age brackets include 8u, 10u, 12u and 14u. I am posting this here because of the large number of freshmen who are still able to play in the 14u age group. For more info, call Bob Heriges at (615)868-5927 or (615)390-9257.

white house won. i'm not sure of the score.

volunteer general-- when report cards are sent home for after christmas, applications for all of the "open" schools, such as east literature and pearl-cohn are sent home as part of the big packet of papers we always get with report cards. when i say "open", i mean that currently there are no specific academic requirements, you and your student just want to attend, because of the type of specialized program offered at that school. people with the tcap/terranova or whatever the standardized test is currently called + the g.p.a. get applications specifically for hume-fogg and mlk. mlk is the science and math magnet, hume-fogg is for overall academic excellence. nashville school for the arts requires an audition. east lit, as the name implies, does more with literature and writing and pearl-cohn has the business magnet. each child must get the application turned in to the school board office either by snail mail or hand delivery, with signatures from principals (along with grades and test score info for mlk and hfa.) this is sometime in february. once your application is received, you are assigned a number and a postcard with the number is sent to your house. each number is put in a "fishbowl" for the specific drawing--if you applied to east lit, your number would be EL0001 and put in the east "bowl". you can apply for more than one school if you so desire and meet whatever requirements necessary. once you are in the "bowl", you wait to hear your number called. you can go watch the drawing in person or on local cable. they draw ALL numbers, even though there are a limited number of seats at each school--this establishes a waiting list. in past years, you stayed on that waiting list from year to year, hoping people would move or not go back so that you could move to a seat possibly. there is a new policy that abolishes waiting lists once the school year begins now (i think this is the first year), so if you didn't get in the first year, you can reapply and maybe get in the next year. but, for example, at hfa, if you weren't in as a freshman, you could reapply for one of 10-20 seats vacated by people who move or choose not to come back. those aren't really good odds. as far as i know, pearl-cohn only requires that you want to enter their specialized business program for the magnet school--i don't know of any current academic requirements--but you still have to go through the drawing from the fishbowl process. as for mlk's girls' past successes, i can't really tell you much about that. those kids have to have test scores and grades to get in just like hfa. i know that right now, their softball program is pretty poor and that their soccer program is declining. one of my daughter's closest friends participates in those two sports and this info is from them. now i will present the fact that many people in nashville believe that the boys program at mlk is heavily into recruiting--just the constant rumor here, i can't speak from any experience. but i still find it hard to see how the procedure i outlined above can be seriously manipulated into getting the "right" kids into their school. i think any school, magnet, private, public, whatever, can luck into some motivated, good hard-working players from time to time. that doesn't mean they will stay that way or dominate the way some other schools do. hope this further clarifies. my husband and i spend lots of time encouraging the people our daughters are already in school with and are on teams with to put their kids in additional activities to help our current teams out--ex. send your cheerleader to camp and gymnastics or send your softball player to hitting, pitching or fielding lessons. we have helped people find camps, instructors, summer league teams, etc. but these are girls who are already at our schools and on a team at the school. and no, we're not "helping" any of them financially--we can barely afford what our two do!

volunteer general, pearl-cohn is different from the other magnet schools, with the magnet-within-the-zone school concept. most people in nashville forget that p-c has a magnet program within its building. east lit, mlk and hume-fogg are the high schools in metro that are strictly magnet programs and have rivalries between them. (nashville school for the arts doesn't have sports that i am aware of.) those three schools don't play pearl-cohn in anything that i know of right now, so we forget they have a magnet program over there. sorry. (i have one child at east lit and one at hume-fogg, so once again, if mlk plays them in b-ball, forgive me.) the reason i mentioned that hfa titles have been primarily in girls' sports was because this public v. private debate has always seemed to me to be a football issue at its heart. i know other sports have chimed in, but the origins are in football, a non-girl sport. i don't know of any girls at hume-fogg that are there because of the sports programs--they are there because of the academic reputation of the school and the millions of dollars in college academic scholarships offered to students each year. (this past year alone, for less than 225 seniors, over $11 million, btw) if sports was the issue at our house, we would send our daughter to her zone school -- she plays softball and is zoned for hunters lane. hunters lane did quite well this past year at state and should be good again this year. and most parents that their daughters went through meigs (the academic middle school magnet) feel the same way. i can only speak for that part of the hume-fogg population, but i am confident in that area. i also don't know how students get into magnets in other counties. in metro, there is a lottery where a number corresponding to each child is drawn out of a fishbowl. (they show it on local cable here) and when each of my children were in fifth grade--it was very hard to get a seat. my oldest was so far down on the waiting list for meigs that we knew she would never get in (somewhere around 200th) and was also on the waiting list for east. we didn't know until the week before school that she would get in that year. my second child was more fortunate--she was one of the first forty numbers selected for meigs. but we know lots of people who applied to more that one magnet and didn't get in anywhere. maybe its different at tyner or other places, i can't say. i just cannot envision the day where anyone can stack a metro nashville magnet school (once again, read that as hume-fogg, mlk or east) for sports.

i still don't understand why most posters on this board think you would go to hume-fogg just to play athletics. it is DIFFICULT, at best, to get in and to stay in. the student must meet the academic requirements and keep up with all of the home work (2-3 hours per night). many of the athletic programs at the school are strongly encouraged not to participate in playdays, weekend tournaments, etc. to allow the students more time for their school work. this situation contributed mightily to the change in softball coaches at hume-fogg over the summer. several of the parents and students from last year's team didn't want to go to tournaments over the weekends and went to the principal over it. and this even though most people who participate in softball know that the weekend tournaments are where your team will improve and face consistent competition to prepare for districts, regionals, etc. the easiest metro nashville magnet school to enter is east literature--currently, no academic requirements necessary. they are also easily the worst in athletics. the girls' basketball team has not won a game in at least two years and the boys are not a lot better. the volleyball program just started two years ago and is well below .500 in that time. for what it is worth, most of those titles at hume-fogg mentioned in an earlier post are from girls' programs at the school. none of the metro nashville magnets have football, by the way. kids at east literature magnet play at stratford if they want to play football--i don't know about the other schools.

the requirements for entering the lottery for the two academic magnet high schools in nashville are strict, then the workload is enormous to remain in these schools. a few years ago, meigs magnet (middle school) was made the feeder for hume-fogg and most kids that attend meigs AND keep their grades up go on to hfa. the meigs kids make up a very large portion of the freshman class at hfa (probably upwards of 75%)martin luther king magnet starts at seventh grade. how can you stack sports programs based on estimated performance in fifth or seventh grade? are other magnet schools in other counties easier to get into? i have a daughter at east literature magnet, which doesn't have the same requirements at king or hfa, but there was still a LONG waiting list when she entered in fifth grade. when her time came to try to enter the lottery, my younger child was number two hundred on the WAITING list for east lit., and believe me, east has awful girls' sports. maybe the rules are different in other places, but my experience tells me that it really would be hard to get athletes for the sake of athletics into metro magnets.

allisonE17-who else does hume-fogg have coming in?

what time will this game start?

i have kept scorebooks for leagues and for my daughter's travel teams over the past seven years. i agree with the statement that effort is not an error. i also agree with the statement that a parent cannot be totally objective. my daughter is a pitcher and i have charged her errors on fielding, mainly when i think she should have cleanly fielded a ball. having read this discussion, i realize i have probably "erred" on the side of errors--i.e., charged her with more than her fair share, when she didn't knock a ball down that realistically she probably couldn't get from the pitcher's position. it is a shame that more people don't learn how to score a game the right way. or care enough to read up on it and then try to be as fair as possible when keeping these books. it's really unfortunate that post season awards are based on inflated stats. keeping a good book is truly a dying art.

does anyone know the details of this game? how ezell scored? who pitched for both teams? i'm assuming kristi cunningham pitched for davidson.

does anyone know details about the championship game in this district? and who made all-district and all-tournament?

and thanks to the hard work of the "two bobs", carly hill will have some help coming from the meigs middle school team next year. ms. hill really will be sending the "CHILLy" breeze throughout the district in '04!