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pbp1185- Hiller and Gooden wrestled this year at the Ryan Invitational and Hiller beat him 7-1 . And the thing is, the 7-1 score makes it sound closer than it really was. Hiller dominated him.

I tend to agree with all of you more and more about Bosken. I think it would be a better match than most would expect, but mainly because Dunning does just enough to get by. He is a great wrestler that, without a doubt in MY mind, would beat Bosken but you're right, it would be no more than a major but most likey a decision. I put a decision in my previous post and I'm going to stick with that. By the way, does anyone know Dunning's record? I know that he has only lost once in the last 3 years.

I honestly think that coach Connell would want Lee to wrestle Catlett, and I know for a fact that every state champion that I have talked to wanted and still wants to wrestle the best from the other division. Wrestlers are not babies and they get into the sport because they, as individuals, love to compete. Yes, it would hurt to be a state champion in your division and then lose in a matchup against your counterpart, but they would learn more from that loss than from their state championship. As for other sports, an indivdual state championship in wrestling is just that, an individual accomplishment. Wrestling has always been between the best wrestlers in the whole state, except for the past 6 years, so people and state champions are naturally going to want to speculate and wish for a matchup. In my post above, I put down my picks if there was a matchup and personally, I enjoy reading who everyone thinks is the best and I hope everyone appreciates my opinions as well. So back to our subject, DI champ vs. DII champ: who would win?

Here are my picks. I did a little research so here you go.... 103: Dunning dec. Coleman (White and Manson beat Coleman & Dunning beat both of them) DI-0 DII-3 112: Hiller dec. Ibrahim (I believe Hiller has beat him before; nonetheless, he's the best 112 in the state) DI-0 DII-6 119: Leen dec. James (Leen beat him 3-0 at McCallie) DI-0 DII-9 125: Silberman dec. Bird (Silberman beat him 8-7 at McCallie) DI-0 DII-12 130: Dunning dec. Bosken (Never wrestled to my knowledge but Dunning is the best 130 in the state, he could pin him but benefit of the doubt he just decisions) DI-0 DII-15 135: Lane dec. Manley (Lane beat him 6-4 at McCallie) DI-3 DII-15 140: Creagan vs. Blair (too close to call, could go either way) no points either way 145: Scott maj. McKinney (Couldn't find if they wrestled, but Scott could probably pin this guy, benefit of the doubt he only majors him) DI-3 DII-19 152: Catlett dec. Connell (Connell is not the same wrestler as he used to be, but he could win if he was on) DI-6 DII-19 160: Gibson maj. McTorry (Gibson is a much better wrestler, but McTorry is quick and a strong defensive wrestler and would NOT allow more than a major) DI-10 DII-19 171: Marable dec. Jones (Marable beat a good Luttrel many times this year, if someone knows if Luttrel & Jones wrestled at the MBA duals, let me know) DI-10 DII-22 189: Freels dec. Greenwood (Greenwood can be inconstant, but could go either way) DI-13 DII-22 215: Thornhill dec. Evans (Thornhill placed #1 at Ryan tourny and Evans placed #3. They didn't wrestle but Thornhill would win) DI-13 DII-25 275: Crosby pin. Cooper (Crosby pinned Cooper in a minute at Ryan tourny) DII-25 over DI-19. Even if Creagan won, DII would still win 25-23. It would be a great match but DII would be the victor. I'm open for discussion if someone disagrees.

I saw the match at the Ryan tournament and Marable didn't seem to stall. He was the one who shot at the end of the match while he was up by 1 point. I don't think stalling has anything to do with their next match, just who wants it more.

If DII state champs wrestled DI state champs, DII would win. But if DII placers (3,4,5,6) wrestled DI placers, then DI would win. As for the dual tournament, we may never know. However, DI and DII are pretty much equal. A DI team could be the best one year and then the next a DII could be best. Just my opinion.

sly- How did Musser do at the Bradely tournament? Did he and Creagan wrestle?

lovetowrestle- Thanks for the great post.

Sly- Thanks for the post. If all Bradely is concentrating on is a DI state championship, then they are doing a great job. I understand what they're doing but as a wrestling fan, it is natural for us to want to see the best team in DI go up against the best team in DII. Who knows, maybe one day it could happen.

walkenvol- Great post, I totally agree with everything you said. Bradely fans- There is no doubt that Bradely should be ranked #1 in division I. Sly and Silverbullet, both of you are right in saying that they have beaten everyone they needed to in order to win the DI state. Yet, the controversy is not which team is the best in the DI state; instead, it's which team is the best in the entire state of Tennessee? And until Bradely wrestles the DII champ, there is going to be controversy so deal with it. If Bradely wants it to end, then just wrestle DII schools and there will be no question. I, personally, am mainly a DII fan but I would love it if Bradely defeated the DII champ so atleast we all would know which team is the best in the entire state. I don't want there to be a controversy just as much as you, but we have to face the facts. The best team in DI does not wrestle the best team in DII. Period.

I read the article that Collierville won the Franklin tournament and Baylor won the Alabama tournament. Were there any other tournaments this weekend? How did Father Ryan and MBA do at Mater Dei? Where was Bradely, McCallie, Soddy, Clevland, and other big schools this weekend?

Does anyone know if the TennBest Weekly is coming out this week or is Rob skipping this week due to Christmas?

They're good but not that good. Bradely only has 4 top ranked wrestlers projected to be champs: Cordell, Creagan, Catlett, and Gibson. Don't get me wrong, that is great but we don't need to "post Bradley's line up with a few exceptions as the one's to beat!" I'm not bashing just being realistic.

timj- Thanks for the info. Do you know who won the other weight classes? Also, when I checked the brackets, it showed me the same thing that it showed me all day: everything except finals and the last few matches in consolations. Just wondering if you had some more info.

I think that Michael White and Whit Dunning both got tough draws in the 103lb weight class. They will have to wrestle each other in the quarterfinals, and the winner has to wrestle Cory Manson. Maybe I don't know my 103 lb weight class that well, but I was under the impression that these three guys were the best 103's there, and now that they're going to meet before the finals. Does anyone know if the McEachern 103 Anton Prater is that good because he got the #1 seed. I thought he's been beat by one of these guys. Please post if you have information. Thanks.