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If you are talking about that Elliott boy let me tell you WH guys something you cant take the bomb from Hiroshima and turn into a sniper rifle.Which means you cant make a mix tape kid into a basketball player, it cant be done, I have watched many coaches try and I have watched this kid play for several years out here before he moved up there to you. He has one thing on his mind and it is go go go. I know white house is trying to play up tempo but it is controlled tempo and he cant even do that. He is a roll the ball out there and let him play take his turnovers take his points take his bad decision making type of player and if you cant live with that (most coaches cant) then he is not for your style. He is a memphis type of player coach is there to sub but the 5 out there just play like AAU style. Could he help a team, without a doubt, but he could just as easily bring one down and lose you several games. Super athletic. Stood out more in middle school cause he was bigger and faster, saw him this summer play and didnt look as good and now he didnt play this year? I might be wrong on that but havent heard his name this year, transfer ineligible? Hope he finds his spot or grows into a basketball PLAYER instead of a guy who plays basketball. As for what I witnessed from the stand the other night agianst East...WH looked shell shocked I think Ward number 2 freshman got the start, hopefully that wasnt his first start of the year. but it did look like it, he was not ready for that speed he looked like a freshman. I have seen yall play a few times this year and he has looked great, this was the first time he looked nervous but what a learning experience for him for next year. But the other freshman that played looked fine out there, if he grows any that could be the PLAYER in the class. He is smart makes good decisons dosent turn it over rebounds. still lost a little on D adjusting to speed probably but I like his game, They have a nice young core of freshmen. The loss of the PG is going to be huge, there is no one on that team right now to replace what he can do, period. he can really play and have a feeling a lot of colleges have no idea who he is. The shock I had most about that game was number 1 inability to play in that game, he plays aau with and against those same kids he knows the speed of the game and he had if I had to guess 15-18 turnovers, from the key guy that cant happen, if you want to win the game. but hey i do agree with you on this, wh WILL win this district next year and maybe even 3 straight idk that is hard to judge who comes who goes from all the teams.

I now know why white house has lost their last few games, as someone who hasnt seen them play in awhile, one of these is true but idk which one. I am not around this team enough to know. But this is true I just dont know the reasons. They are uninspired like they are ready for the season to be over with, not all but most. Burnt out or something idk. They have no fire no passion no excitement it is a dead ball club. I am not sure if they coaches have lost the players but thats my first thought, I saw several times the little coach talking with number 1 and him just walk away unresponsive glazed face, like he wasnt even there. When the bench comes in there is supposed to be a spark the only time that happened for them was when the kid who kinda looks like number 1 little brother with bad hair came in he hustles plays hard all the time, he gets lost but thats what happens sometimes. I they have 3 sr so its a young team I get that so thats most of the inconsistency in this team, but that portland team should never be able to beat any team in their own gym. Also when did wh go to playing man? They cant guard anyone idk when they started that did they do that against westmoreland and heritage? What happened to playing that what I called helter skelter defense everyone flying around everyone on the bench plays wear the other team down with the whole team for a half then play the normal rotation in the second half and win the game I seen them do that a couple times this year. Good luck to everyone in this district I will be curious bystander probably wont make it to many games I will be at another tourney!

I didnt make it to the wh vs heritage game, so what happened 79 points from heritage is amazing. My guess is wh pressed most of the game to keep the tempo but allowed layup after layup on the other end(I have seen them do that personally, they leave their "big man" on an island back there). I would be hard pressed to think heritage shot the ball with them, they have no shooters, a few scores who can hit shots but no shooters. Thats why I say they had to be shooting layups to score that many points. Heritage PG number 10 or 1 I know it has a 1 in it havent seen them in awhile, I feel hes the best player they have and white house has no shot to guard a team with a good PG, then they have the tall athletic kid 14 maybe ...shoots all the time if he hits they are in some games but he can shoot you out of them too. and they have a good who shoots alot of threes not many go in but his confidence is high 20 or 22 I am not sure . Good win for heritage I am sure great crowd there But did a wh player get hurt because they lost to westmoreland the next day with like 40 points. Is the tournament set? who plays who?

any good games in this district this week?

Heritage had a big time player in 2013? Was that the single A team that lost to Richland in the sectional?

Also noticed the other day at wh vs cheatham that white house has the best way i can explain it is "extra coaches" behind the bench which is ok but I witnessed multiple times (timeouts end of quarters) which is a T if a crew or opposing coach were to witness it cause I am guessing they arent on the bench because they arent official on school paperwork or whatever. More power to them for being able to do it though. I have seen a ref call a T for that before at the end of a game.

cleggy is speaking truths out here. this is seems like two dads not seeing eye to eye or not watching the same game...to be honest after reading both new blue and cleggy posts in this whole topic and not knowing heritage or the kids, i would have to side with cleggy, yall both spoke crazy about how great heritage was going to be but he did man up and say he was wrong his preseason predictions were way off base meanwhile new blue I believe thinks they can still win the district! I stand by my three wins in the district for them...cc loss wh loss coin flip with sycamore. they might win that one to get to 4 wins. I havent seen them play since before christmas might make it out to see which one of yall is more correct with their assessment of this team

good defender avg shooter doesnt play in key situations not sure why that is but mr basketball is in the game ALL THE TIME

saw the scores from last night everything seems to be right in my book. I had to work last night so was unable to see any games but after seeing the wh greenbrier score, and seeing them play a couple weeks ago greenbrier is not the worst team in this district dispite the record. they are trying to figure out how to win. they will be a team you dont want to face come tourny time as long as they continue to play hard. cheatham is still the team to beat will win out white house is closing the gap but dont have enough defense to get it done and if they dont shoot well they can be beat by anyone finish 2-2 beat heritage and westmoreland lose to cc and harpeth. harpeth is harpeth but i think they win out westmoreland both wh teams sycamore, westmorelands early wins might let them settle in the middle i have them losing the final 4 district games. greenbrier will win 2 of their last four (westmoreland heritage cc sycamore) wh heritage finishes 1-4 (cc harpeth wh greenbrier sycamore) sycamore winless in the final 4, might win one (greenbrier heritage harpeth cc) so based on that my final standings are 1. CC 11-1 first rd bye 2. Harpeth 9-3 3. WH 8-4 4. Westmoreland 6-6 5. WH heritage 3-9 Greenbrier and Sycamore both finish 2-10 and idk how the tie break works so for bracket purpose say greenbrier wins the tie break so they are 6 and sycamore 7 FIRST RD HARPETH VS SYCAMORE upset by sycamore WH VS GREENBRIER win by WH WESTMORELAND VS WH HERITAGE winner plays CC in the semis win by westmoreland SEMI WH vs Sycamore CC vs Westmoreland Finals CC vs WH cheatham wins

As usual another pointless statistic from new blue. The last seven games of a schedule is never an indicator of how things are going to go especially when those seven games include Christmas tournaments from everyone. Weak comp vs good comp in tournaments never fair comparison. If you are looking at a way to "predict" the out come of the rest of the year Ii recommend not doing it, especially in this district. Where the only thing that is a guarantee is that cheatham is still the team to beat, but are actually beatable this year from inferior teams. So with that being said, you must look at the district wins (cause thats what matters not overall wins...wouldn't expect anything else from a fan) but you should know more about the game if you are going to talk about it all the time, and since there hasn't been 7 district games played you can only go on the games played within the district so far Cheatham 4-1 L westmoreland on the road Westmoreland 4-1 L Harpeth on the road Harpeth 4-2 Cheatham WH both at home(shock) WH 3-2 Sycamore CC away and home(sycamore only win) jekyll & hyde my name for WH Heritage 2-3 L all at home not a good sign(W at sycamore is good) Sycamore 1-4 W white house at home Greenbrier 0-5 so what you have here is chaos theory aka the butterfly effect. in laymans terms no one really know what the heck is going on here . By this break down westmoreland beat the best team who lost to harpeth who lost to wh who got beat by sycamore who lost to heritage...so basically by the breakdown in reverse new blue...Heritage is the best team in the district! good day gentlemen nice to be back, everyone kick back relax get ya popcorn ready enjoy the second half of yalls district season and please let me know when and where this tournament is I WOULDN'T MISS THIS FOR THE WORLD...BEAUTIFUL DISASTER

you didnt do so well boss...haha heritage wasnt due, no double digit win for harpeth, and wh definitely didnt win by ten. idk how many brown had but if they won i but he had 30 or so i like the Truth Man

sorry guys ive been out of town with the family/and work! but i saw some of the scores! shocking to say the least this district is so in limbo right now i couldnt tell you who is who. Im not sure if any team is playing how anyone expected. is westmoreland for real who knows, is heritage really that bad i dont believe so, but then again they could be. greenbrier a 3 point loss to harpeth, is that harpeth playing bad or greenbrier turning it around who knows man! its a crazy district the only thing i do know is whoever wins this thing in the regular season is the true winner cause at this point anyone could beat anyone in the first round and with only seven teams winner automatic bid to the region where we are...which is going the way everyone thought so far. I am really entertained by the scores on this side (crazy) now to address some people new cat on here Truth...has some bold points not too bad. hard to have real truths picking these games with these teams! who shows up who just is there what coach gets the best out of his team when they need it bomber out here destroying new blue...i wasnt at the game between wh and heritage, but its interesting to see them go back and forth with it... i dont think they have 2 6'5 guys...but if they do and they have only won one game thats a shame on that coach and those players in that district. i am willing to bet no team has anyone bigger than 6'5 in the district and they have 2? tonight ill take cheatham over harpeth might be close idk hendersonville over heritage with in 4 points give me westmoreland over sycamore playing too good not to go with them...call it 6 point game white house over greenbrier no point prediction here. could be +20 could be 1. greenbrier gets the lead it will be low scoring

Wheres the video of these games? I would like to see these games, half of the stats you say he is doing would be impressive, if this is true I think these stats would make some kind of news, some paper somewhere...If this isnt Big Bo...it must be uncle Freeman!!

I agree with your harpeth statement, thats what happens when you have the best coach in the district. It is no surprise they are winning. But the rest of what you said might be some of the dumbest stuff I have ever heard. They are about as equal as rocks and cotton. For you to think that heritage has the better athletes is crazy, they have 1 athlete. Not that, that means anything in basketball anyway, Lance Armstrong is an athlete Usain Bolt is an athlete, doesnt mean they can play basketball! It is a basketball game and there is one thing that matters, the ball has to go in the basket. And they just cant score! 60 points and 44 points against the same team is even? Since when? You think a team that has won one game avg 51 ppg is going to beat a team that has 4 wins 2 against 3a schools and that is avg 63 ppg...I ask you how? You are already begging for the refs to help, if heritage wins this game it would be like the US beating USSR in hocky in 1980...If this game is close I would be surprised, Hopefully I wont have to work and i will be able to see it come down to "shooting, free throws, and game strategy". The only thing it will come down to is will heritage have enough oxygen tanks on the side lines to run with them, and strategy will be when will the coach wave the white flag and sub down and hope that wh does the same thing so the score is respectable in the paper! US vs USSR if heritage wins! they are behind greenbrier in these polls! 9-AA STANDINGS TEAM OVERALL % CONF % PF PA Cheatham Co Central High School 5-2-0 0.714 0-0-0 0.000 475 439 Sycamore High School 2-1-0 0.667 0-0-0 0.000 112 150 White House High School 4-3-0 0.571 0-0-0 0.000 384 371 Harpeth High School 3-4-0 0.429 0-0-0 0.000 349 376 Westmoreland High School 2-3-0 0.400 0-0-0 0.000 283 261 Greenbrier High School 1-4-0 0.200 0-1-0 0.000 235 270 White House-Heritage High School 1-5-0 0.167 0-0-0 0.000 307 365

what time do they play springfield tomorrow? And westmoreland is out there surprising me, sorry i picked yall last in this district! What happend in the WH vs Portland game, had to be an injury or somehow portland slowed the game down and it was an old school rivalry game. I read white house 20 plus points in the 4th. Sneaky win, Also saw heritage won the rematch with that clarksville team thats big for them. Still shocked with their record though and ppg I thought they would be better its still early though. Cheatham still being cheatham, I will like to see what happens with that coach once his players are gone, not sure if its the coaching or the talent out there we shall see soon!

When does WH play heritage and cheatham. anyone?

I knew I should have gone the white house game. I wont miss another one if I can it help 94 points against gallatin is a lot more impressive than the 99 they put up on greenbrier last year i believe. I told yall they are fun to watch, Craig said they had 70 out of three players. Maybe their coaches have been reading these and hopefully they like what they saw last night and will continue to run alot people will come watch that type game, and they have the kids to do it obvisouly 94 points on 3A team... Also i said douglas would have to put cheatham on his back and it looks like thats what his doing as a sr. cant wait for WH CC game! Westmoreland making an early year statement so far...

Since it was Monday night i made the trip to wh it had the old school atmosphere wh used to have when we played them. That was great to see, this is the simple takeaway from this game. WH was bigger and faster than ER plain and simple. they scored 70+ points in a game that east slowed it down (tried to slow it down) they had multiple min long possessions where wh just defended and a run here and run there and its 20 point game at halftime. No contest out matched. I must say i do not like the slow down attempt again by white house in the fourth, they don't have the guys for that. This team just needs to get up and down the court and play they know three things and they do them all well... Shoot the 3 attack the rim and offensive rebound. Just let them go coaches and sit back and watch the wins pile up...Also im pretty sure they played with a freshman PG the Sr went out of the game early and never came back...who knows what the score would have been...scary and fun team to watch idk when I will make it to another one, if my team doesn't get more exciting to watch soon ill be coming to a lot more WH games! Cheatham beating creeekwood is very nice W. douglas had 43? i think i could be wrong very impressive for a kid that doesn't shoot 3s Heritage loss to clarksville academy seems like a bad loss on paper, idk anything about that team so who knows they could be great Heritage got ran out of the gym against LIT not shocked by that LIT is pretty good! Cheatham still the team to beat if douglas can shoulder the load! But WH is the team to go watch play (Golden State like) run and shoot play hard.

Well I was at the hoc tourny at Pope last night. I will start with Pope is very talented from top to bottom, great ball handlers, shooters, bigs, and bigs that can shoot. Saying that, they are poorly coached. And since they are private school I wont spend much time on them at all. Lexington have a couple kids that can really play. the pg and the off guard were solid, not sure if they are still playing football or not but seems like they are missing a few players that could help them be good and they might be playing football idk. White House I see what the talk is about but theres just something about them cant put my finger on it, they could win the district or finish fourth. WH vs Lexington white house controlled and dominated the game i think they trailed 5-2 and thats the only time they were behind in that game. It never really was in doubt but there in the 4th idk if WH was just playing around with Lex. because they knew they were going to win or if their coach was working on different plays or if he let them back in to show them how to win close games. Cause in the 4th they stopped running and shooting layups and 3s and went to this stall type motion, it was clear they didnt like it and couldn't do it. they much rather run and go all day. heard some parents or fans in the crowd saying this is what they did last year in the district tourny also. so it might be their 4th quarter offense idk, I hope not!! cause for 3 quarters they were fun to watch. Number 00,1,3,31,15 those are my numbers i wrote down key players for sure. 00 the pg, 1 TO against a bigger taller quicker guard and team all around. that's what you need. made some great decisions ran the team correctly. 1 is the work horse. things arent going well they just get him the ball and scores whenever he wants. 3 i was told is a FRESHMAN well good luck guarding him is all I can say. TRUE IN THE GYM RANGE. hand in face it doesnt matter if he gets it off the other team taking it out of the net. 31 big guy strong on the glass as nice touch from all locations, solid high school post player. 15 the energy guy the piss the other team off guy cause will pick you up anywhere take charges from 70 feet from the basket dives for loose balls just the guy a good basketball team needs. can shoot the 3 pretty good not great but he knows when to. pope vs Lexington was close for 3 quarters then pope just blew them out in the fourth and continued that momentum into the white house game POPE vs WH pope like i said has a big that can shoot that hurt wh didnt seem like they were comfortable guarding the big man outside. quick guards were able to get in the lane and throw something up there and big man just had back side rebound often. pope jumped out big 15-2 or something like that. Then number 2 for wh put the world on his shoulders for brief time until he picked up 2nd foul in the first, i think he scored ten straight to make it 15-12 and wh only had 18 at the half so...it was 36-18 I believe. Wh got hot from three in the second half started pressing forcing TO and bad shots which is what you have to do. Pope finally calmed down and started to beat it with over the top passes. and went from 8 points with around 2 min left to 15 or so by the end. If you want to beat WH just put in all the players you can afford to foul with early and send them to the line. Very poor foul shooters, im willing to bet they shot better from 3 then they did from the foul line. Willing to say they missed 20-25 ft in two games. side not anyone reading this from WH, I know the head coach is Coach Smith played against him when i played, but idk the other coaches, like a college coaching staff over there!! But one of them looks like THE EXPRESS! someone let me know if that is him, haven't seen him in years, and i couldn't find him after the game thanks Pope players to watch if you play them 20,24,33,1 White House 00,1,3,31 Lexington 1,11

springfield isnt a challenge, east lit lost their best player to ky, hume fogg is terrible...pearl is the only decent game in this list of "difficult" schedule you must not be up to date on your city schools, mba is tough but its a scrimmage so who really cares, idk anything about clarksville academy they could be good.

....might want to check that record again. I witnessed more than 3 losses my self. they will be good but pretty similar to last year record about 20-10...they went 23-8 last year

NOVEMBER 17, 2015 WHITEHOUSE VS LEXINGTON (HOF) POPE JOHN PAUL II HIGH SCHOOL, 117 CALDWELL DRIVE, HENDERSONVILLE, TN 37075, UNITED STATES 11/17 @ 4:30 PM BASKETBALL BOYS VS WHITEHOUSE (HOF) POPE JOHN PAUL II HIGH SCHOOL, 117 CALDWELL DRIVE, HENDERSONVILLE, TN 37075, UNITED STATES 11/17 @ 7:30 PM BASKETBALL BOYS VS LEXINGTON (HOF) POPE JOHN PAUL II HIGH SCHOOL, 117 CALDWELL DRIVE, HENDERSONVILLE, TN 37075, UNITED STATES 11/17 @ 6:00 PM thats from pope school page

Was it White House or heritage who had kids kicked off around christmas? does anyone know that answer maybe the guy with wh logo or the homer from heritage. I heard something about that? Also if cheatham dismissed players from last years team they are in trouble! douglas cant do it by himself, maybe against some teams he can but he cant win it all. Heard from a hendersonville friend that is associated with the beech program that wh would be 500 easy in the beech district and should have no problem in AA for years to come. and that heritage has a big boy thats really good! Also i agree about Brown from sycamore i thought he was a sr last year, he can score at will but again i hear hes the only one there. Cant do it by himself. And if that WH schedule is true for the first of the year...thats a heck of schedule to have to fall back on in this district..I will be in attendance for the hall of fame games at JPII. See if this wh hype is real or not. See if they will run or play slow down old white house ball when we had to play them back in the day...scores in the 40s. Also is the older coach, Coach smith still there? is that the save coach smith that won state championships at MBA or BGA or one of those schools?

Idk their names for the JRs at WH but the film I saw they wore number 3 and 51 both had 25 point games as sophs, seeing limited time to a team full of SR. I have them finishing 2nd to cheatham. Heritage film I watched isn't all that impressive, run set after set after set after set. And against a defense that as any clue at all they can not get started with their sets. I have them 4th at best. It will be tough to win the district with 6 losses. New blue must be a heritage homer. A player or parent to a kid playing. My guess is one of the JRs since he singled out that class of how great they are. Correct me if I am wrong the County Championship in 8th grade is middle school... That is a ways back. Basketball is a what have you done for me lately sport. 1.CC 2.WH 3.Harpeth 4.Heritage 5.Sycamore 6.Greenbrier 7.Westmoreland

Anyone disagree this district is pretty much fighting for third. There is only two teams with a shot to win the district Cheatham and White House. Austin Douglas can single handily win his team a game. They return 4 if not 5 starters from a team that has lost a whole 6 games in 2 years They have two shooters if left open go ahead and add 3 points to the board. WH on the other hand is loaded with depth and they all can play. Led by a SR pg who just might be the best TRUE pg in Middle TN. Without a doubt has the best court vision in the area if not in the state.(Not an exaggeration) strong impossible to move him or knock him off balance. If he stays healthy there's no telling the assist numbers he could end up with at the end of the year. They also have two Jr. who can flat out play, both capable of thirty or forty point nights. Both will avg 20 a game. And after that they are loaded with a deep sophomore class and probably two freshman that can score at will. Heard they both had great summers as freshman. Should be a dog fight for the 1 seed. The seasoned veterans who have been there and done that or the young guns who feel like their time is now!!