BigStickDiplomacy

On 10/22/2022 at 3:22 PM, Croppygenius said:

Pretty good poll. I would swap McKenzie and Henry Co. I don't think USJ is a top 10 team.

 

 

I would swap Henry County and Haywood. 

On 9/12/2022 at 6:29 AM, NickNackPaddyWack said:

The biggest reason I can think of is dollars. a 5A school has a much larger student base thus a larger Alumni. Alumni dollars are what brings the talent. By talent I mean the coaches. Winning coaches don't work at the 1 A level because the 1A can't afford them. Then again Scott Frost might be available soon! It's all about dollars. Bigger, better programs attract the talented athletes especially those who are trying to go pro.

 

Peabody being the exception to this? 

1 minute ago, GaryGaines said:

Region 5

Franklin

Shelbyville 

Tullahoma 

Lincoln Co

Lawrence Co

Columbia

 

Region 6

Spring Hill

Page

Nolensville 

Centennial 

Dickson Co

Henry Co

 

Region 7

Beech

Hendersonville

Portland

Springfield

Glencliff

Hunters Lane

Hillsboro

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not bad. I could see Henry County going either way (6/7or8). The TSSAA would probably need to swap the numbers on 6 and 7. 

18 minutes ago, JFreshwater said:

I think williamson and davidson together. Guess it will depend if any of those play up also.

So you are saying:

seven teams south of Williamson County

six teams in Williamson and Davidson

five teams (Dickson, Springfield, Beech, Hendersonville and Portland)

Odd number of teams in two regions, I don't like that.

six teams south of Williamson County (move Springhill north) 

six teams in Williamson and Davidson (move Hunter's Lane to the north region and pickup Springhill from the south)

six teams (Dickson, Springfield, Beech, Hendersonville, Portland and Hunter's Lane)

27 minutes ago, JFreshwater said:

Don't see an 8 team a 6 team and a 4 team mid TN. Numbers will be closer.

 

You may be right. The TSSAA likes even numbers because it makes it easier for schools to fill schedules. How would you reshuffle them?

With the Clarksville schools moving up to 6A, how about this?

Just throwing a few west TN names out that have won multiple championships. Not sure if any would be interested.

Shane Jacobs - Trenton Peabody

Darren Bowlin - Muray, KY former Union City HC

Jeff Morris - Retired from Milan

1 minute ago, 1983 said:

I’m talking about historical programs and yes Huntingdon has a very rich history

No doubt they have a good history. Historically speaking they shouldn't bump anyone down from this list of FIVE. A strong case could be made for them to be in a top 10 though. My criteria would be gold and silver trophies. Yours may be something else. We can agree to disagree if that is the case.

2 hours ago, 1983 said:

Good topic

Huntingdon would be 2 behind Milan

Have they won more than one championship? No they don't deserve to bump anyone on this list.

19 hours ago, Oleskooly said:

MC has been to Lake Co before. A lot of nothing up there, but that was long ago. 

Uhmm you forget....MOSQUITOES!  But it is October so yes you are right except Boyettes!

On 10/25/2020 at 7:15 AM, chrisburr said:

McEwen OR Bruceton is coming of that quadrant and making the Semifinals before falling to Greenfield

Haha

If Peabody and McKenzie both play down, is the West tougher in 1A or 2A?  I know Westview and Camden dropped to 2A but I am not sure if that really comes close to the drop in talent losing Peabody.

20 minutes ago, WarEagleCartman said:

Is that supposed to bother me?

Nope.  Anything untrue?  Did I leave anything out?

So lets be honest the formula is very simple to compete year in year out(3rd round or higher CONSISTENTLY). 

1. Community has ATHLETES or recruits them (we all know it happens).

2.Community supports football. (positively pressures their kids to play, has high expectations and pays quality coaches.)

3.School supports football.  HIRES multiple QUALITY coaches and PAYS them better than surrounding schools so they stay and build a PROGRAM.

The stronger the three of the above are the better the program.

10 hours ago, Pirate2003 said:

Why the hostility? I mean yes we do have a storied, proud, rich history here. What do you have?

Let me think....They have had a few district championships in that round ball sport....Lots of 1st round losses in regionals in that sport...A big bank that looks out of place...yeah I think that's it.

16 hours ago, rebelman101 said:

Greenfield's easy schedule so far will hurt them here in this game and next week against WC. I say LC 42 Greenfield 28

I will probably need a shower after taking up for Greenfield but here goes.  Lake Counties ONLY non region game is Westview which was a slaughter.  Greenfield has played three non region opponents Scott's Hill, Hollow Rock-Bruceton, and Fulton County.  Score from wins over common district opponents LC +58 GHS+48.  This game will not be a blow out.  It will be relatively close and could go either way.

14 hours ago, BCB~MVP said:

Here is my shot at placing the 2A schools based on how @Indian had them broken up. This puts 23 schools in the East and 26 in the West. 

Cumberland Gap could go 1 or 2 but if they go 2, then Reg 1 only has 4 teams.

Could Jackson Co. go Reg 2 with Monterey and York? maybe. 

Moved Forrest to Reg 4.

1		Hampton High School 9/21/2020 383
1		Sullivan North High School 9/10/2020 421
1		Happy Valley High School 9/10/2020 456
1		South Greene High School 9/16/2020 526
1		Cumberland Gap High School 9/4/2020 523
2		Wartburg Central High School 9/14/2020 383
2		Oneida High School 9/15/2020 386
2		Meigs Co. High School 9/8/2020 505
2		Alvin C. York Institute 9/11/2020 483
2		Monterey High School 9/2/2020 395
3		Tellico Plains High School 10/1/2020 431
3		Polk Co. High School 9/8/2020 464
3		Bledsoe Co. High School 9/22/2020 469
3		Marion Co. High School 10/1/2020 489
3		Tyner Academy 9/29/2020 535
4		Trousdale Co. High School 9/2/2020 378
4		East Robertson High School 9/21/2020 381
4		Jackson Co. High School 9/15/2020 425
4		Westmoreland High School 9/15/2020 492
4		Watertown High School 9/15/2020 536
4		Whites Creek High School 9/16/2020 494
4		Cascade High School 9/18/2020 525
4		Forrest High School 9/21/2020 494
5		Richland High School 9/16/2020 377
5		Summertown High School 9/18/2020 383
5		Mt. Pleasant High School 10/1/2020 426
5		Decatur Co. Riverside High School 9/17/2020 430
5		Lewis Co. High School 9/15/2020 459
6		Houston Co. High School 9/16/2020 376
6		Huntingdon High School 9/21/2020 399
6		Hickman Co. High School 9/2/2020 462
6		Camden Central High School 9/16/2020 488
6		Harpeth High School 9/16/2020 527
6		East Hickman High School 9/2/2020 536
6		Scotts Hill High School 9/3/2020 537
7		Halls High School 9/29/2020 374
7		Westview High School 9/15/2020 509
7		Peabody High School 9/17/2020 374
7		Union City High School 9/15/2020 422
7		Gibson Co. High School 9/15/2020 451
7		Adamsville High School 9/10/2020 526
8		Oakhaven High School 10/2/2020 398
8		Fairley High School 9/16/2020 407
8		Mitchell High School 10/2/2020 444
8		Manassas High School 10/2/2020 447
8		KIPP Memphis Collegiate School 10/2/2020 485
8		Freedom Preparatory Academy 10/2/2020 508
8		Memphis East High School 10/2/2020 544
8		Hillcrest High School 9/16/2020 446

If you look at the past, TSSAA usually tries to make as many even number regions as possible.  Helps all teams with scheduling.  

8 minutes ago, Southtowner said:

The original enrollment numbers that were posted on the TSSAA Website early Friday is on the first page of this thread.  It is a copy and paste from their website. 

McKenzie's enrollment was first posted as 337 now its posted as 335.

All the other discrepancies I found were Memphis & Memphis area schools.  

I could have overlooked some outside the Memphis area.  

As I've stated before the TSSAA is cross referencing all enrollment numbers.  

https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/education/rpt-crd/reportcarddata20201.xlsx

The big question is are any of the new small schools going to play football?

8 hours ago, Southtowner said:

@Indian

@fredjones

@CoachT

Does anyone know why there are discrepancies in the enrollment numbers that were originally posted on the TSSAA website report and what the TSSAA posted late Friday afternoon? 

I found around 39 discrepancies all Memphis area schools and McKenzie. 

Mckenzie.... interesting.  I assume they under reported?  These two sites are two years old and show enrollment by grade.  Totals for current 9-12 comes to 363.  Lost 30 kids from for grades in two years.  If true makes one wonder what is going on to make them want to leave.

https://nces.ed.gov/ccd/schoolsearch/school_detail.asp?Search=1&County=Carroll County&State=47&ID=470279000984

https://nces.ed.gov/ccd/schoolsearch/school_detail.asp?Search=1&County=Carroll County&State=47&ID=470279000985

51 minutes ago, BooWhoWiseMan said:

Who has done that?   I haven't heard of such a thing.  If they are no the in a brick and mortar building they count on their schools enrollment.  

Home school students are little different but they do not count.

16 minutes ago, Sidelinehustler said:

Yes tell us. This would open a can of worms. 

Yes potentially a very large can.

2 hours ago, GWAVE1 said:

Whom as done that?  

1 hour ago, Indian said:

They should still be part of their schools. Same as a new building. 

47 minutes ago, BooWhoWiseMan said:

Who has done that?   I haven't heard of such a thing.  If they are no the in a brick and mortar building they count on their schools enrollment.  

I am sure that there are others.  

Lincoln Central Academy (Lincoln County)

Polk Innovative Learning Academy

Henry County Virtual Academy 

*Disclaimer not sure which ones if any "co-op" with another school.  

15 hours ago, Sidelinehustler said:

How would Covid affect the numbers?  Virtual students should be counted as enrollment. 

Some school systems have created "new" schools to "house" their virtual students.  These will take numbers away from the parent school.

6 minutes ago, ysoangry said:

My prediction is LC by as many as the coach wants. 

I doubt Lampkins would want them to score more than 24.

9 minutes ago, piratetom said:

Covid wins of 1-0 should not factor into this. Pirates are averaging 51.5 PPG.

You are correct.  Defense goes to 3.25 still first also!