Pizzpatriot2

1 hour ago, Tide21 said:

They aren’t the best they have ever been but they are good lots of speed on defense.  Riverside and Huntingdon are 2 of the top teams in the state if not the the very top 2 

I haven’t seen either play to be honest. Just what I have read and seen on past seasons schedules from the T. It does seem that Huntingdon is a premier team and then Riverside went to the state last year. Therefore, it seems to reason that if Milan was placed, say in R5, they may be undefeated. If that’s the case, Milan takes this one Friday night. However, it also seems that R5 is good this year. Several teams had excellent seasons with only one or two losses which is highly unusual because typically, Hohenwald is the only team in that region (with current teams) that has a winner record.

Let’s get back on the topic of this thread and recognize how fine of a season Loretto has had thus far. Did any of you Loretto fans see this season being of such historical proportion? I must admit, for one, I am glad to see this. I hope it’s sustainable and the program continues to rise. I know how special it is as our program, so far, has contained that success!

2 hours ago, BIGPURPLEMACHINE said:

You know I like this whole block feature. I thought about it and I realized I can say what ever I want to about @Pizzpatriot2 and I don’t have to listen to her whine. For example, I can say how Lewis Co. has a winning record all time against Page or how they have more playoff wins than Page. Or I could mention that Page has a weaker schedule this year than Lewis. Or how they dropped 2A Forrest after getting beat in 2016. Or how they are playing a first year program this year. Or how before the last 2 seasons Page was one of the worst football programs in the Nation. I could even mention how Bobby Sharp asked his mom to prom and then stood her up as a joke and that’s why Pizzagirl is jaded to this day. And I don’t have to listen to his reply. It’s great.

You can BPM but, I’m sure you want to know what’s being said so that you will understand what it was that made people realize Milan jumps from classification to classification in-order-to run from competition.

Holding tradition, if Milan really is in a down year and their placement of third in R6 is not due to outstanding teams, Hohenwald takes this one, especially since they are at home.

However, if Milan really is good and, they can beat the refs at Hohenwald, they will win with ease.

All of this of course, is if Hohenwald is back to their tradition. In the past, they have very seldom if ever played anyone of substance in the first round and, when they have, they’ve gotten beat, even with 9-1 and 10-0 records.

Hohenwald should win this one, hands down; especially since they are playing at home. But, I’m going out on a limb here and say the paper tigers from Milan win. I just don’t see the mindset established from last year maintaining.

22 hours ago, horse said:

Where does the paper champions coming from?

For decades, Hohenwald has been placed in the weakest region(s) and always scheduled extremely weak out-of-region games to inflate their record(s). Therefore, their region championships are only valued on paper. (Coach had a couple of close buddies in the T$$AA that always took care of them) This year is a prime example as neither Riverside nor Chapel Hill, both of whom traditionally have been on their schedule (at least one anyway) and, according to Google maps, Riverside is just up the road. Loretto threw a kink in that plan as they have had an awesome year thus far.

16 hours ago, thedawg44 said:

Someone's jealous 

Probably that Milan fan that’s always on here. Bet they’re trying to figure out 4A for the next realignment.

2 hours ago, tradertwo said:

Best I've seen. Walking through that "tunnel" with the pictures & awards and looking up at their sign listing their coaches and history takes it to another level there. Atmosphere is as good as high school football gets.

All of those paper championships?

Couldn’t help it.

The paper tigers versus the paper champions! What a match up!

Undefeated on the regular season; region champs and first seed in playoffs! Congratulations to the Mustangs for their historic season! Good luck in the playoffs!

@Southtowner, am I out of time out yet? I’m wanting to banter with someone who can banter with humor!

Looks like it’s going to be a tie for the region between Loretto and the perennial paper championships. Does Loretto get the nod because of the head to head?

I guess Milan is going to be moving back up to 4A in the next reclassification. Now that Riverside is has put them even further down the rail in 2A and, doesn’t seem they will be getting by Huntington in the foreseeable future, there’s no other option. Even if they can catch Covington on a down year, won’t be able to get past Dyersburg in 3A either. Even if they did, no way they are going to be able to beat Alcoa.

Yep, 4A and hope for something like another Covid year to make it all the way to state. Cuddos to Riverside and their program and keeping the paper tigers in check.

3 hours ago, ddaddy said:

It works. I have done to one poster only. The only thing is you can see their post if somebody responds to them. I wish there was a way to keep somebody from posting on a topic that you start. That way you could actually have discussions without the same poster taking it over and making the same old negative comments. I like a little bantering back-and-forth as much as the next guy, but this one person has a negative agenda.

I know right? This topic was started about Loretto and some yahoo from Milan turned it into a Page bashing thread!

1 hour ago, BIGPURPLEMACHINE said:

Yep. Covid was around in 2020. Exactly right. Too bad y’all were t around in 2017 to play Forrest 

Good thing we were in ‘21 and ‘22 when we went to the state championship and, didn’t need Covid to help get us there

1 hour ago, BIGPURPLEMACHINE said:

Forrest… 2016…

Covid.. 2020..

5 hours ago, WingT08 said:

Paper Tigers are the worst

Been missing out on a lot here, WT! A third rate elementary teacher from Milan, who is still living in the 90's, has ramped up his rhetoric and been called out and put in his place a couple of times. (hates the word is out on Milan running from competition). Hohenwald is sitting at a one loss season but, competitive with the rest of the region, so far. No surprise there but the big story here is Loretto. They are undefeated and just absolutely tearing the region up! Those Mustangs have it all together, for this year anyway. 

Next up is to see who all makes it from this region to the third round, not just if Hohenwald does. I'm learning more about those West Tennessee teams so I'm seeing just how tough they are. Now that Riverside has been pushed over there, it does make 2A in Middle that much easier.

I'm still fighting the good fight against the paper champions and now, I guess, the paper tigers. Check back when you can.

10 hours ago, JoeKane13 said:

Just proof of what I said…. STM

But I am Happy that those kids from Page did get to experience going to the State Championship game. It’s a great accomplishment making it there.
Just thinking out loud tho, I highly doubt you even are from Franklin/Page anyways. Heck, you may originally even be from Hohenwald. Or had a kid play there when they were in the same region as LC. Lol. You just have the same old comebacks, same old paper champions comment, same “we made it to back to back championships” and running down the same town. Must not be a fan of the old coach at LC, as it seems you have followed his trail to Milan now. And I guess, by the enrollment numbers in that “Big Boy Football”, LC should just come on up to 5A with Page. Seems to be easier to make it to a SC there. Must be, since the struggle was real when Page was in 2-3A. 

Nah, just calling a spade a spade. Thanks for the compliment though. The struggle was real, however. But, we pushed through it and have finally reached real success, including a program to be proud of!

1 hour ago, BIGPURPLEMACHINE said:

I love the fact that I can type a little and you write a book. Lol!!  It’s great!!!

That’s why you are a fan of paper tigers.

1 hour ago, ddaddy said:

Don’t forget that Lewis and Page has actually played 22 times on the field (not on message boards) and Lewis has won on the field, 13 times to 9. Or 59% of the games played on the field. In all 22 games Page had almost double LC’s enrollment, which I would assume means that Page was attempting to play a weak schedule.

Don’t forget that Page has played for two state championships and Hohenwald has played for zero. That’s in big boy 5A football too because that’s our enrollment numbers.

2 hours ago, BIGPURPLEMACHINE said:

Again where is your proof?  Not just an opinion. I asked you earlier and you keep deflecting as usual. It’s not like we were in a much higher class and lost to a much smaller school and didn’t reschedule them the next cycle. But what I do know is Milan nor Lewis Co scheduled a first year team this year like Page did. Lol. 

Too funny! Again, trying to make something into nothing! We didn’t seek out to schedule them; they were placed in our region. Now, if we were to seek out smaller and weaker schools like Collinwood or Waynesboro (when they are down) or Obion County or 0 for 50 Spring Hill for our out of region schedule I could understand. I could also understand if we had a school population to rank us in 2A but we bounced between divisions to try to find an easier path against lessor competition but, we do none of that and yet, we still make it to the state championship. Add to that, we don’t need Covid to help us either. Sure am glad we are not paper tigers!

2 hours ago, BIGPURPLEMACHINE said:

Which larger class team was it that lost to Forrest in 2016 and then dropped them from their schedule?  My memory escapes me…

You have moved well past ignorant and into the realm of dumb. Here you are again, trying to make something into what it is not. In 2016, the game against Chapel Hill ended the contract after playing four consecutive years. We moved into a different region and schedule’s would not have matched up anyway. We are not like the paper tigers from Milan always duking and dodging competition by jumping classifications.

2 hours ago, BIGPURPLEMACHINE said:

Wow. So Lewis actually scheduled tougher opponents this year. Good point. 

When you make it to the state championship game in 5A in consecutive years, even if the regular season schedule is (Hohenwald weak), it doesn’t really matter, does it?

1 hour ago, JoeKane13 said:

He has short term memory BPM. He only remembers the last few successful years… 

I tell you what I do remember; state championship games. What do you remember? I know, the start of basketball season.?.?.

1 hour ago, BIGPURPLEMACHINE said:

Obviously…

Paper tigers

48 minutes ago, JoeKane13 said:

And don’t forget the Paper Runner Ups. 
Id say no one on this site has anything to do with the scheduling of Games here. I agree that tougher scheduling should be done to improve toughness and preparation. But with a low income county and school system. We can’t just make the trip to Alcoa, Oakland, Etc… or whoever else you think LC should Schedule. Of LCs 3 non district games. Community is just plain bad. Creekwood is Very athletic, but wasn’t very good either but a 4A team. And then Pure youth below. The other 7 games are Region games. And I highly doubt as you have claimed before, LC got to choose what district they wanted to go to. No Ex coach and no TSSAA board members for you to blame. 

You brought up Pure Youth and downed LC playing them. here is what I found from their schedule of the Tennessee teams. They were no slouch opponent, the most athletic team I’ve seen LC play in recent memory and their record doesn’t show if that’s all you looked at. 
 

Pure Academy 

 

Vs Haywood L 21-28. 

Haywood is 7-2. Losses to Oakland and Hardin County. Currently Ranked 8th in 4A.

 

Vs Cookville L 21-18

Cookeville is 6-3. Losses to Mt. Juliet, Lebanon and Stone Memorial. Currently Not ranked in 6A.

 

Vs Pearl Cohn L 41-14. 

Pearl Cohn is 9-0 and Ranked #1 in 4A

 

Vs Hardin County L 21-14

Hardin Co is 9-0 and Ranked #4 in 4A

 

Vs Blackman L 35-12. 

Blackman is 3-6, not ranked, only losing team and in arguably the toughest region in the State. 

 

Vs Lewis Co. L 44-26

LC is 8-1. Ranked 10th in 2A and lost to Loretto.

 

Vs Crockett County W 54-47.

CC is 5-4. Not ranked and losses to Huntingdon, Haywood and Dyer Co. 

 

Vs Walker Valley L 21-8

WV is 7-2 not Ranked in 5A. With Losses to Bradley Central(#1 in 6A) and East Hamilton

You are late to the party about PURE, homie.  See below:

On 10/3/2023 at 10:42 PM, Pizzpatriot2 said:

Just checking up on this week’s action and noticed highly ranked power house Lewis Co takes on what seems like a Memphis school which, has not won a game. However, their scores show close games (within seven points I think) with the exception Pearl Cohn and maybe one other team.

 only in existence for a few years, has played some quality opponents. Though winless, they very well could slip in and beat Hohenwald. I don’t know much about PURE and only about Hohenwald’s tradition, but this game might actually be a good one!

 

Now, as far as a poor county and not affording travel, Hohenwald will schedule zero for fifty 5A Spring Hill but won’t schedule 5A Columbia even though Columbia is just down the road and they passed right by there on the way to Spring Hill. They will also schedule basketball school Obion County but will absolutely not schedule Union City. Not only that but they won’t schedule Mckenzie, Milan, Dresden or Westview even though they drove right past them on the way to Obion. I left off Lexington because they will probably have them on the upcoming schedule since they are so down. Therefore, that argument of travel doesn’t apply. There are more but those two come to mind first.

Was it a few years ago Hohenwald beat a .500 Chapel Hill team to capture the region? I noticed they aren’t on the schedule. We all just know Riverside won’t be on either the region or out of region schedule any time soon but, schools like PURE and Collinwood and Waynesboro probably will. Now that Richland has returned to the cellar, will they be scheduled next? If Loretto comes back next year and the year after, will they be moved on over into R6?

1 hour ago, JoeKane13 said:

Call it what you want. You devalue Lewis and all of a sudden Milan… I guess that Growth of Williamson County hasn’t helped at all considering the last 4-5 years you talk about…. No one here in Lewis claims to be unbeatable. What is asked of these kids is to go out and compete night in and night out each Friday in the fall as we teach our kids to compete every day in life. It is probably once every 8-12 years these kids have a chance to compete for a State Title realistically. You unrealistically think a small town like Lewis county can consistently produce athletes to do this year in and year out as some of these schools like Page, TS, Indy, Summit, Brentwood, BA, etc do… These small towns can’t just load up a team in any given sport that happens to all play on the same AAU, Travel Baseball, whatever, and just call their buddies up who knows the head coach at the other HS and load up your High School team. And don’t act like it’s not happening there. My kids have played up there with some of those teams/organizations and the recruiting through the travel programs is real there. So Congratulations on your Runner up Paper-Recruiting silver trophies. Your the real hero on here. 

I don’t devalue Hohenwald. That program has consistently done that on its own. All I have done is call out the extremely weak scheduling year after year for decades.

Whatever the population density is here correlates to absolutely nothing with Hohenwalds consistent weak schedules including weak regions also dating back decades. So, don’t try to flip my argument pertaining to those intentionally weak schedules year after year into excuses of why we make it to state championship games and Hohenwald not only does not but seldom if ever makes it past the second round.

As for Milan, your boy BPM decided to bring attention to them by voluntarily jumping in and coming not only after me but my schools, Page, football program. Now we have the paper champions and the paper tigers! Lol

31 minutes ago, BIGPURPLEMACHINE said:

Yes Milan changed classifications. What proof do you have that they did it to supposedly dodge competition?  Not you opinion but actual proof. I can say something 100 times but that doesn’t make it true. I’m looking forward to your proof. 

It’s called deductive reasoning. 
 

#papertigers

2 minutes ago, BIGPURPLEMACHINE said:

2 things. First he talks about the football team and kids play on the football team. Second, his team would be eliminated in rd 1. He likes to poke fun at Lewis but if you take away the last couple of years Page is historically one of the worst teams in TN High School Football. 

This is an exemplary example of the pot calling the kettle black. You act like paper tigers from Milan have accomplished a great deal but neglect the fact that Milan jumps classification to fray away from competition. If not for Covid, Milan hasn’t done much in forever!

Loretto has faced four teams with winning records and, has won all four plus five others. They face another quality team Friday night.

For comparison, Hohenwald has only faced two teams with winning records and is 50/50 against those two. Have to add inthat they also scheduled and played a team (PURE Academy) that has only three-four wins in their entire history.

6 minutes ago, TheWolf said:

The head coach, a nice arm talented QB, and a white Randy Moss at receiver 

There you go.
 

Now, is Hohenwald going back to the tradition of weak schedules and early round playoff bounces?