tnsparty

I was impressed with Indy's defense against WC. They swarm to the ball well. They miseed some tackles, but last year's team did so early. They'll get it corrected. It seemed that they were trying to make the highlight reel hit instead of wrapping up. It will get better. They have a long way to go but there are a pretty good team.

That's right..oops you went to Centennial... /roflol.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":roflol:" border="0" alt="roflol.gif" />

Let's look at your list: better throwing mechanics - Maybe, but it isn't as much about mechanics as it is getting the ball to the receiver. the Dickson County game two years ago when him and Emory Martin played QB - That was 2 years ago. the fact that he was playing against better competition (with the exception of week 15) last season - He started against MBA (good team I agree with you), Franklin (So did Heckman in quarterfinals), Centennial (Better than who?), Memphis East (Better than who and he had 2 ints and Heckman was put in). Heckman then started against CNE, DC, Ravenwood, Brentwood, Columbia, Gallatin, Antioch, Franklin, Millington and Smyrna. (9-1). he played QB last season when Pettigrew was not 100% healthy, which when Pettigrew was healthy it took a lot of pressure off of the QB - Pettigrew had over 200 vs Centennial. He was pretty healthy from then on. Nick didn't start vs BA, so MBA was the only game. the passing game opens up a lot more when he is at QB (yes I know the running game goes in the other direction but I believe their strength to be more in the receivers this year as opposed to the running back) - Not sure how that is. Teams are able to defend the pass since he is not a running threat. The game is about balance, not just passing. I've said it before I like Nick Smith. IMO Heckman gives the team a better chance at being multi-dimensional and a better team. For some reason Nick lost confidence in his passing ability. I remember his Sophmore year when he played he was able to make the good throws. Last year, he threw too many bad balls. Once a qb loses confidence they start pressing and make more mistakes. Indy has a playoff shot with Heckman, but unfortunately if Heckman goes down, they will struggle. I hate to say it but I am not the only one that will say it.

I love it when the grammar police post. /roflol.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":roflol:" border="0" alt="roflol.gif" />

I was impressed with IHS's performance overall. WC came out intimidating. After the break I noticed WC was sucking wind. IHS was definitely in better shape and that will mean a lot during the season, especially early in the heat. The OLine did a decent job for only having 1 returning starter. They still have a ways to go, but they will get better. Heckman did a very good job reading the veer and his passes were on target. Williams and Norman have speed and caught some nice balls. They need others (Shepherd and Stannard) to provide them with more options so the defense can't lock down on 1 primary receiver. Defensively I liked the way they get to the ball, but they didn't tackle as good as I thought they should. If you remember last year's team, they did the same early on, but got a lot better as the season progressed. Bobby C will get them tackling better. Not sure about TK as a standup LB. I think he needs to be at Nose, but that is not my call. I was impressed with Meeker. He was flying around and hitting well. I see the biggest concern is in the kicking game. Veres will be missed a lot here. They might need the Soph. Leake to step in. Has a good leg, needs to be more consistent. Wish I could see the scrimmage Thursday, but am taking son to Campbellsville to begin football practice. Good luck to the Eagles this season.

WC and Indy scrimmage tonight at 6 at WC. Both teams lost a lot from last year.

Coach, Congrats on getting back to TN. I coached when you were in Franklin and saw you in Spring Hill. You scrimmaged my team when I was at Heritage MS also. Drop me an email at tnsparty@charter.net sometime. My son Nate just signed to play at Campblesville. Will be good to here from you.

Here is another Indy 6 5-A memory. It was so much a play but a series of plays. At Dickson County with Indy up 14-0 in the 2nd, DC was driving and Veres intercepted them at the 1. Indy took the ball and drove 99 yards to score (about 15 plays). Indy had struggled in the games before that and that series seemed to turn the whole season around. DC was done after that drive as Indy won 27-7.

That was definitely memorable. Besides the catch and field goal the last play of the game was absolutely bar none the biggest hit I have ever seen in a football game. Pettigrew has a 25 yard sprint and knocks Steele out to end the game. What a collision. Then the scene at Millington after the game. They wouldn't let any fans on the field to celebrate after the game so the Indy players jumped the fence and celebrated with their fans. A scene I will never forget.

Did the other QBs have team mates to throw to? I was told the IHS players there were mostly linemen (except for 2 RB/LB). Were there other Indy receivers there?

I was not there but I heard from some that were. I don't know his times, but he had decent times in the combine drills, but impressed the UC staff during the 1on1's and passing portion of the combine. I was also told his his leadership ability and competitive spirit stood out as well according to those that observed the camp. Independence had 6 or so players attend. Not sure what others from 6 were there. They have a website, but nothing on it from this combine yet. http://www.nationalunderclassmen.com/registration2.htm

Thanks Sleeper. Wayne and my boy played on the same team with the Cowboys. I talked to Wayne and he says he can't wait to have some blocking for a change. Wayne is a good kid and was a good running back without a lot of help in his career.

I heard Alex Heckman (QB Independence HS) was recognized as the Combine MVP in the morning session.

Thanks Nation. I will continue to support IHS football, but will have a new team to support also. It has been a challenging and fun 4 years. Lots of highs and lows. Helping start a program was tough, but with the help of a lot of people, IHS football was left in good standing. They have a good group of kids and coaches. The coaches do make decisions that upset some, but it has to be realized the decisions they make are for the betterment of the team not individuals. They make mistkes sometimes, like everyone else does. I have certainly questioned coaches decisions in the past, but not on the forum. Also thanks for the comment about my son going to Campbellsville to play football. We are excited at the opportunity for him. Unfortunately at this time though only 3 of the seniors have signed to play. Hopefully more will get the opportunity. There were some very talented players on last year's team.

Either Stannard or the Leake kid will probably kick I would think. Not sure about the other stuff. I would bet that Coach Bobby is putting them through the paces in off season workouts though.

Please stop with the drama queen act. The difference is that instead of posting it to a forum, most talk with the coaches personally. You tell me I am wrong in deciphering your intentions and then your last statement backs up what I said /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />. There are 22 starting positions and there will always be those that think that someone that isn't starting is better than someone that is. That's the way it goes. If someone doesn't like it they have options. They can talk to the coaches, quit or move. Football like life isn't always fair. Oh and I forgot the last option, you can come on a forum and complain about it. Why would I care? Jump away. At least when you post something you back it up with stats and facts.

NO threats from me. You had no intentions of discussing anything except how Nick got srewed by the coaching staff and wasn't given a fair chance. Casting aspersions? You sound like an educated person. You sound like a teacher. Reply however you want. If you don't like how it is here then don't read it. I went a long time without posting and now I know why. Have fun at Indy this year.

You are right it is funny how one can be so wrong, just read your post. I do agree with you about Consiglio though. He will be harder to replace than Grigsby was though. Not only was Ryan the QB of the defense he was a more than adequate backup for Pettigrew at RB. I still don't see Heckman at RB this year, but time will tell.

No rules from me. Post what you want. Same goes for me though so for every stupid thing you say I can have the opinion it is stupid and tell you that.

I like how you handle someone disagreeing with you. You play the forum martyr. I will give you no advice. It is too much fun watching you make an idiot out of yourself on your own. Now play the martyr card again so everyone will feel sorry for you. Everyone is probably the wrong word, maybe I should have said Sleeper.

I never said you couldn't have an opinion. You can have an opinion about anything you want and so can I. I usually try to back up my opinions with some actual facts though. And it looks like I can add BMOC to my resume now. Thanks for the title. I do think that Terone will get some wide receiver time this year also. I am far from a bandwagon poster. But if I have a greivance with a coach I choose not to air it on a forum, unlike you. That's the difference between us. Post all you want about anything you want, but if you make it personal with me, I can pull the gloves off and get personal back.

Aren't you a Centennial fan? You have no idea what you are talking about. Smith is gone and he took whatever principles he had with him. Sure some of the coaches were there under him, but this is Eubanks' team and his principles run the team. It is hard to believe that the team goes 11-4 and there are a couple of people that still want to invent some dirt to spread around. Like I told HS, give it up and move on.

Let me give you a bit of advice that you won't take. Let it go. Whining about it on a forum will do nothing to changed the situation. Coaches play the player that best give the team a chance to win in their mind. They don't always make the right decision, but in this case the right decision was made. No way does this team go 11-4 without Heckman at QB. The sooner you and sleeper realize that you are just about the only 2 people on earth that don't see it. the better off you, the players, fans and coaches will be. It seems to me that you keep dredging this up to maybe undermine what the coaches are doing. Guess what? What someone posts on a forum has no affect on coaching decisions. NONE. If you have a gripe, meet with the coaches. I doubt that will happen because you can't hide behind a screen name that way. And before you say the same about me, if you have been posting or reading here for any length of time I have said who I was before. Do yourself and everyone else a favor and give it up. Also you lose credibility in a football forum when you use a French phrase. /rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":rolleyes:" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" />

What happened last spring then? If I remember right Cordell was 2nd or even 3rd during the spring. There is no sense in continuing this conversation with you. Your mind is made up and you will believe what you want. I have nothing against Nick. He is a good kid. However, Heckman adds something to the offense that Nick can't and that is his ability to run the ball when needed. For some reason you can't be objective and see that. Believe what you want. It seems like you have a gripe with the coaching staff on this. Instead of coming on here and sounding like a broken record, air it out with the coaches in person. But, that probably won't happen. It is easy to remain anonymous on a forum.

The spread that they ran then was a different version under Smith. His version was based on chucking it 40 times a game. While Emory was a tough runner, he had trouble with Smith's passing game. The version of spread now is a more balanced offense. Different philosophies under different coaches. Having a qb that can run keeps the defense from keying on the one RB. They have to respect the possibility of the QB running. Not sure what you mean by Heckman's subpar throwing abilities. Remember he was a sophmore and his passing was very good and should improve.