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Thanks, you are a character...but no crying except watching the punter consistently put Ravenwood in the hole after good defensive stands by the Raptors. After watching the punter, I needed something more than Tylenol for the pain of his punts. My apologies to BigRedDad and to the rest of MBA community, little did I know the new AD for Williamson County Schools (We got one of them county AD starting this fall.) first official decision was a major bonehead. He decided to move all the Middle Schools in Williamson County to play Friday night instead of the normal Thursday games due to countywide parent/teacher conference on Thursday. This effected Ravenwood feeder schools Woodland & Sunset Middle. This split up families to attend one game or the other. It affected gate dollars for the Middle Schools and it affected MBA gate due to split attendance in our community. As a family, we had to split games. I had to miss one of my sons Middle School football games while my better half attended game. The other thing is the band and band parents. Since it was homecoming for MBA, the band didn't travel since they were not allowed halftime show. If there is a next time, don't schedule Ravenwood for homecoming and maybe the brand new AD for Williamson County won't be so new anymore. Maybe he will be wiser to the sporting events, gate dollars, and know better to leave football to high schools on Friday nights. I want to thank everyone as this thread closes out for not getting into recruiting and bashing of teams. It was a real joy to have decent discussion on this tread. If there is a next time with a spaghetti supper on homecoming for MBA, make sure you give the ref's bibs and toothpicks. The spaghetti stains were noticeable from the bleachers and the whistles were used for picking their teeth. /hungry.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":hungry:" border="0" alt="hungry.gif" />

The only advantage MBA has is a world class punter...a real game changer that can back a team up in the hole. A real weapon very few teams has seen in years with his ability to put the ball anywhere the coach ask.

You are right, there were no crying towel comments, only comments about the best defensive line and Division 1 prospects in Tennessee High School football and Rank #10 in the nation. The Tennessean article was really good in the promotion for BA. Of course Ravenwood got the typical comments in general about getting the their fannies beat. I'll have to say it was generally from outsider of the BA, not from within except for the BA center. He got things going??¦kind of like the corner for MBA. It??™s like Deja Vu by playing two nationally rank teams in one year, especially one with an eighteen game winning streak.

Thank you for wisdom and advice MBA Big Red 1. I've attended a lot of games, been to the highest and the lowest of times but I've yet needed a crying towel. I guess a voice of experience is at hand from one of the MBA players on crying towel etiquette for opposing teams of the Big Red. If this was a region game, then you might have a point but since this is a non-region game, there is nothing to loose but everything to gain. Ravenwood winning streak is one game not eighteen. Yes, we heard the same thing from BA who was number 10 in the nation at the time but as thing goes??¦sometimes you just never know until you play the game. Regardless, the experience and excitement of playing two Division II rivals in the same year as well as playing to hostile crowd at MBA will be worth it. I don??™t see many teams from DI stepping up to the challenge of playing MBA & BA. Why is that? Some teams rather pocket a win than stand before a challenge to see what they are made of as a team? I haven??™t known MBA to intently schedule out-of-Region play cupcakes, neither will Ravenwood although MBA probably thinking Ravenwood is currently a cupcake which is fine. When you have a eighteen game winning streak on the line and among the top teams in the nation, I guess it seems like a cupcake and crying towels are in order per MBA Big Red 1 advise.

I??™ll have to commend you for getting it right about the schedule comment. I did make comments to that point on scheduling and attendance benefit both teams but I couldn??™t see how scheduling has anything to do with ???beating like a drum??? and ???crying towel???. When the team gives its very best, no more can be asked, nothing to cry about, it??™s their very best.

Well I guess ignorant is as ignorant does which comes to the point of who said anything about MBA fans not being loud? I didn??™t so who is the ignorant one who cannot read? You??™ve should have seen the expression on our face when we were smack by Franklin but since you don??™t go to MBA games, what does it matter Neutral3000? /popcorneater.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":popcorneater:" border="0" alt="popcorneater.gif" />

Thanks for the invite to the Spaghetti Supper. I'm sure it will be the Italian feast. We have regular tailgating bonanza and interfering with your Spaghetti Supper to celebrate Homecoming and 18 game winning streak wouldn't be proper. We would be ducks out of water in that atmosphere. Anyway, if Ravenwood doesn't renew the schedule next year, it won't be for lack of quality competition with MBA. It may be more of what TSSAA decides about the Division 1 mess with six classes, playoff, and wildcard selection process. Will the Gallatin thing work at MBA? Since Ravenwood beat BA and scoreless tied with Enworth in the last scrimmage of the preseason, is MBA looking to this game as gauge for district play with BA & Ensworth? With Ensworth and BA games coming up next for MBA, I sure they will have their spies in the stands get a close up view of MBA run/pass formations against common opponent. Those guys will do anything and everything to get a leg up on the DII region. It could be MBA's bad luck to be playing Ravenwood right before Ensworth and BA.

Jeff, you didn't have to delete your post. There was noting wrong with it...why any team would love a 18 game winning streak. Not many can brag about such a long winning streak except for some Rebel team south of Knoxville...not Nashville. Have a good game Friday.

Kind of stretching it there with 10K fans aren't we? If you go to Brentwood, Franklin, Ravenwood, or Independence in Williamson County on any given night where one is playing the other, you would know what I mean...stand room only if you can find it. It would be the same at many other schools in Rutherford County and some places out in the eastern part of the state. The point you made about 450 boys is good point which means the gate is not what it is when you play away from MBA. If you don't bring'em, then why schedule a low gate for out of district play because it doesn't help the coffers. At least BA brings a decent crowd and we return the favor much more. As you mention, it just the way it is and it is a known fact for future scheduling. Your comment on the lack of interest from MBA...I'll have to think about that one and the players and coaches included in the lack of interest category with this 18 game winning streak? Life is good at MBA with Dan & Company. You think we can swap sides or we will have to pull a Gallatin??¦sit on both sides. It might be fun to mingle, then again Ravenwood fans could have a lack of interest as well. I'm sure MBA and Ravenwood schedule each other for their lack interest in each other. /popcorneater.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":popcorneater:" border="0" alt="popcorneater.gif" />

What you say as travel well is probably true from your view but it is nothing like the crowds for BA, Brentwood and Franklin games. We talk about it last year as it was a major disappointment. We had thought MBA travel well. You always like to schedule teams that bring a good gate as well as receiving. It helps both schools. Any thoughts on flipping home field side for this game? They don't let us play with fire, fireworks, or bonfires in Williamson County school property and City of Brentwood. Can we bring some too? I like the cannon shots the best.

I don't know which Ravenwood team will show up Friday night at MBA homecoming. It's been Jekyll and Hyde, up one week and down the next while MBA has remained very consistent with the testimony of 18 game winning streak is proof. It doesn't say much but Brentwood City champions is all Ravenwood has going for them for the first time in Brentwood City history (Brentwood H.S. doesn??™t play BA) for all three high schools. I'm probably expecting the BA treatment at MBA??¦don??™t come here and expect to park on our campus to watch the game. It is off limits to the visiting team. Ravenwood will have to find some location way off the beaten path to even get close to the school to park. Last year game at Ravenwood was a disappointment for lack of attendance by the MBA crowd. You would think the short travel and parking would have been non-issue for MBA faithful. This adds to the reasoning that future scheduling with MBA will end after this game due to lack of gate attendance from MBA. It's great for the team and a few mommies and daddies to show up but where are the faithful diehard fans? Privates schools Goodpasture and BA brings a way bigger crowd than the few MBA fans showing up last year. Does the MBA fans show up at least for a home game? If not, does MBA want to swap home and visitors sides for this MBA homecoming game? We would be obliged.

You need to breath in and out every now and then. Do Ravenwood a favor and stick a cork in it.

No rivalry here...Ravenwood is just a local high school on the Northeast side of the county. You would have to look to Brentwood, the very talented Centennial, and Independence as a Franklin rivalry games with intense sniping post on CoachT. Team Leader Combos and company should be looking at McGavock as their next big road test, not Ravenwood. I can't figure out why anyone would want to discuss this little old game anyway. Franklin is #1 football team in 5A with bigger fish to fry while pulling off dominating wins against Hillsboro and McCallie. Too bad Franklin doesn't have MBA on the schedule this year, they could clean their clock with bragging rights as Tennessee best football team with respect to Maryville and Henry County.

Four this year and two in 2009 will qualify. The rest of the teams in the district in 2009 will be wildcard. This may require teams like Franklin and Ravenwood to look at playing D1 teams to fill the schedule than DII teams like McCallie, Ba, and MBA for 2009 games. It's dependent on Ronnie Carter of the TSSAA as he decides the wildcard format later this year. If any indication, Ronnie seems not to like DII teams playing D1. It's interfering with the TSSAA plan of separation of scholarship teams and non-scholarship teams.

I agree on the condition and leadership, especially in the McCallie game. I do think Franklin let up on the pedal in the Hillsboro game because of the big lead otherwise Hillsboro would have never come back from the big deficit. Coach Fulmer is a "not to loose" type of coach. I don't know if it is right or wrong because his winning record speaks for itself but it will make the fans pull out their hair. Ravenwood offense is more of a West Virginia college style than a West Coast pro style. West Coast is more about short passes in the flats and run after the catch. BTW, the offensive coordinator is from West Virginia and deserves much of the credit for the offensive style of play. You don't see him because he is on top of the press box calling plays. I couldn't see why the Franklin faithful bashed Coach Clayton last year after the Ravenwood game for calling plays from the press box. It is easier for offensive play caller to react to situations when seeing the field above than the sidelines.

I've been very impressed with the Franklin Rebels offense, especially the line play in opening holes for the RB's, protecting the QB during passing, and giving the receivers time to get into their routes. I've watch the line play during the Hillsboro game. Your play one the line was not only dominating but very impressive lead blocking. Coach Clayton has to feel real blessed to have a football player of your caliber and team leader like you leading the blocking up front and on to victory. The way you lead the Rebels back in the fourth quarter over McCallie will be a fond memory for life. Your play and leadership on the field is worthy of All State and Mr. Lineman honors. Give your defensive guys kudos for keeping a tough McCallie team from scoring in the fourth quarter. Franklin has always been known for tough defense and this year team is keeping the tradition alive. Since Franklin won the last two pages, does #65 Combos have the same prediction for Friday's game and how much? If you're not comfortable making prediction, I??™m sure Coach Clayton could make it for you??¦just ask him Tuesday after practice. As the team leader, a consensus from your brethren players will do and will it be unanimous?

Thank you Mr. Independence Eagle 1.

Will 58 be starting at center for BA as a Junior? Why are you asking CoachT poster who takes it and by how much? Why don't you ask Coach Potter? I'm sure Coach Potter will have all the appropriate answer to satisfy your curiosity. Please let us know Coach Potter response. I'm sure you as well as Coach Potter are very confident of winning because BA is 31-0 against Williamson County teams. Never to have beaten by public Williamson County team is quite the accomplishment and it doesn't get any better than perfect. As the rules change in 2009 for Division I teams, this could be the last year BA and Ravenwood will be playing each other in football competition. It all depends how Ronnie Carter breaks down the 2009 rules later on this year.

I just hope the Thunderstorm don't roll through like last year. Football games are meant to be finished on the day of play.

If you were knowledgeable enough about what was going on the field, you would have probably not have posted the JV score. So here is the correction and I'll leave it at that. First half Varsity, EHS 0, Ravenwood 0 Second Half JV, EHS 14, Ravenwood 6

Playing the privates offers better competition of play due to the better athletes. It is not quantity but quality. I have never known BA to substitute top players with second team once achieving commanding lead. They keep the top players on the field to get more game film for college recruiting. I cannot argue if this is the right or wrong thing to do but it seems strange while second string players have little hope of getting into a game. While playing private offers better competition, it serves a purpose to the public to play up to better competition when it comes to playoffs. The format changes in 2009 and this advantage of playing a better private team is taken away because of the wildcard format of the public playoff system. It is penalizing teams to play the better private teams and lose to such team. It makes the difference of making playoffs and not for a public team. So what matter most to these kids, making the playoffs or playing private schools?

Ok, tell me the local Brentwood area middle school scholars BA recruited because I cannot back it up that BA has not recruited local scholar students to attend this fine educational institution. It looks like getting beat by the same school year after year will end after this year due to realignment of the public schools and wild card system. BA will have to play all DII teams or out of state teams next year...have a nice road trip. Did you ever think of not playing local teams may have a negative effect on the school athletic programs? Lack of local teams not filling up BA football stadium will not only affect the revenue of the football but other non-revenue sports. It appears future cost of additional travel expenses to far off places and drop in revenue of paid football and concession attendance will have devastating effect unless the parents ante up the lost revenue. The net effect on revenue to the public schools will be minor if not increased because privates like BA and MBA don’t bring a very good crowd on away games. This is understandable because the population of BA or MBA is about the size of a public Class 1A or 2A. So tell me who is going to suffer on the final outcome.

You're correct...I’ve never known BA to recruit scholar students from the local middle schools.

Ravenwood lost in the finals to a local Alabama H.S. team this past weekend at the "Air-It-Out" 7 on 7 at North Alabama. Ravenwood was a little sluggish at first but became better as the round robin continued. Ravenwood went 2-0 against Hoover, once in the round robin play and again in the tournament semi-finals to advance to the finals. Vandy 7 on 7 should be nothing but the best competition between the local schools and the out of state schools this weekend.

I was not sure about East Tennessee until I looked on OTB website. They have different publications for West and Middle Tennessee. OTB is all high school sports publication that cover the different sports, not only football. They produce serveral issues per year, not just once a year. It is a free publication. Too bad East Tennessee doesn't have a publication for High School sports but Murph will do fine for football.