Well this is Brad Denton the guy kevb was talkin bout. I think your a bit wrong about Mr. Helton ive played against him and i know what the kid can do, i also consider myself a pretty darn good LB and well he just made me look dumb. I have played with shiverdecker from Alcoa and against Rogan many times and have seen smith play 3 times and still think Ryan Helton may be one of the best i have seen. so think what you want i know.