McCallie and Baylor

[mtnrasslin]

Certainly a "could have been" option easily considered at the 2006 state duals - with a little hindsight.

Good point. Maybe there are benefits to putting a kid on the mat for every match after all.

[skeered]

Duncan could go either 103 or 112 depending on the rest of the line-up, either way Baylor will have another 8th grader starting in their line-up, possieble two wrestlers in the lower weights. What about some of those upper weights? they have to have some guys step up to fill those spots, football players? All I know is do not ever underestimate McCallie and the line-up Connel will put out their against the Big Red, I am sure we will see some shuffling of the wrestlers to get the best match ups.

 

There is something wrong in my way of thinking to intentionaly bring an 8th grader up to wrestle varsity. There is always high school talent that can wrestle in those weight classes. But instead of developing the high school boy and giving him a chance, bringing an 8th grader up insults the entire team. Bring the 8th grader up after Middle School season is over and only for JV. You run a real threat of isolating the 8th grader from his peers; building up an ego that might be great on the mat but is destined to be deflated socially over time. Let the 8th grader earn his dues by waiting for his turn. Develop your JV boys by giving them a chance on varsity. To say that there is no one that can fill that weight in high school is just a lie or an insult to the kid that's willing to give it a try. Stop making winning the only priority. Yes its the main priority but not the only. Recognize that skrewing a boys head too tight around his own pride will be too big a price to pay for the boy and the entire program (a class program develops the entire team, not just the varsity or the elitist). For the $18,000 a kid's family has to pay each year for the privelage of wrestling, I say give your JV boys a chance to grow on the varsity mat.

[cbg]

There is something wrong in my way of thinking to intentionaly bring an 8th grader up to wrestle varsity. There is always high school talent that can wrestle in those weight classes. But instead of developing the high school boy and giving him a chance, bringing an 8th grader up insults the entire team. Bring the 8th grader up after Middle School season is over and only for JV. You run a real threat of isolating the 8th grader from his peers; building up an ego that might be great on the mat but is destined to be deflated socially over time. Let the 8th grader earn his dues by waiting for his turn. Develop your JV boys by giving them a chance on varsity. To say that there is no one that can fill that weight in high school is just a lie or an insult to the kid that's willing to give it a try. Stop making winning the only priority. Yes its the main priority but not the only. Recognize that skrewing a boys head too tight around his own pride will be too big a price to pay for the boy and the entire program (a class program develops the entire team, not just the varsity or the elitist). For the $18,000 a kid's family has to pay each year for the privelage of wrestling, I say give your JV boys a chance to grow on the varsity mat.

 

If the TSSAA gives the OK for an 8th grader to wrestle and he is the best in his weight classification then you allow him to compete. Wrestling is different today than it was 20 years ago. We now have 8th graders that have been to 3 or 4 national tournaments and are ready to compete on the high school level. Some of these 8th grade wrestlers are older and would be considered a young freshman.

 

You are worried about the 8th grader becoming too cocky or having a big ego. Let me ask this question: Is the wrestler cocky or confident? I have never seen a good athlete that didn't have alot of confidence in their ability. The great ones feel that no one in the world can beat them.

Edited November 8, 2006 by cbg

[walkenvol]

To say that there is no one that can fill that weight in high school is just a lie or an insult to the kid that's willing to give it a try.

Do you know a wrestler at the Baylor school in grades 9-12 who can certify at 103? If the option is to either forfeit the weight or bring someone up from 8th grade, is it still a bad idea to bring up the 8th grader? Can we assume from

You run a real threat of isolating the 8th grader from his peers; building up an ego that might be great on the mat but is destined to be deflated socially over time

that you would prefer the forfeit?

[harry thornton]

There is something wrong in my way of thinking to intentionaly bring an 8th grader up to wrestle varsity. There is always high school talent that can wrestle in those weight classes. But instead of developing the high school boy and giving him a chance, bringing an 8th grader up insults the entire team. Bring the 8th grader up after Middle School season is over and only for JV. You run a real threat of isolating the 8th grader from his peers; building up an ego that might be great on the mat but is destined to be deflated socially over time. Let the 8th grader earn his dues by waiting for his turn. Develop your JV boys by giving them a chance on varsity. To say that there is no one that can fill that weight in high school is just a lie or an insult to the kid that's willing to give it a try. Stop making winning the only priority. Yes its the main priority but not the only. Recognize that skrewing a boys head too tight around his own pride will be too big a price to pay for the boy and the entire program (a class program develops the entire team, not just the varsity or the elitist). For the $18,000 a kid's family has to pay each year for the privelage of wrestling, I say give your JV boys a chance to grow on the varsity mat.

That's the beauty of wrestling challenge matches. If you're the best , you start. No B.S. No politics . No "well , in my opinion... crap" It doesn't get any more pure than that.

[119wrestler]

There is something wrong in my way of thinking to intentionaly bring an 8th grader up to wrestle varsity. There is always high school talent that can wrestle in those weight classes. But instead of developing the high school boy and giving him a chance, bringing an 8th grader up insults the entire team. Bring the 8th grader up after Middle School season is over and only for JV. You run a real threat of isolating the 8th grader from his peers; building up an ego that might be great on the mat but is destined to be deflated socially over time. Let the 8th grader earn his dues by waiting for his turn. Develop your JV boys by giving them a chance on varsity. To say that there is no one that can fill that weight in high school is just a lie or an insult to the kid that's willing to give it a try. Stop making winning the only priority. Yes its the main priority but not the only. Recognize that skrewing a boys head too tight around his own pride will be too big a price to pay for the boy and the entire program (a class program develops the entire team, not just the varsity or the elitist). For the $18,000 a kid's family has to pay each year for the privelage of wrestling, I say give your JV boys a chance to grow on the varsity mat.

wow, wrestling in high school as a middle grader is definitely a good thing, but has nothing to do with a person being more cocky, but as far as paying 18k to wrestle dats one of the dumbest things ive heard...remember theres something called an education?