DIV II Brackets Posted!

[karelin]

Sly and others,

When the seeding criteria for seeding non-medalists was devised three years ago it specifically stated that the the only way to be seeded if you were not a returning medalist-was to beat a returning medalist. When RC was asked the question, what if you beat a guy who beat a medalist, does that count? He responded NO, it would be too difficult to calculate.

Bottom line is Johnson has not not wrestled a medalist and therefore CANNOT be seeded.

BUT HE IS!!!!!

[sly]

Karelin, Your saying that Johnson is seeded. Since the draw is done in private.....isn't it possible that Johnson just drew the 3rd seed place on the bracket? Thanks for responding.

[karelin]

Sly,

Go to the TSSAA website; they actually give an expalnation for why he is seeded 3rd.

It is interesting to me that until this year there has never been a discussion or debate about who should be seeded where; the only problems in the past are when coaches move people around at the last minute. If the powers that be only followed the past examples- there is no problem.

But the criteria is now being viewed through three sets of lens-1. Clear (but not used); 2. Red-tinted; 3. Blind-folded.

[sly]

Karelin, Very interesting. Good luck with this one.

[texas23]

Sly and others,

When the seeding criteria for seeding non-medalists was devised three years ago it specifically stated that the the only way to be seeded if you were not a returning medalist-was to beat a returning medalist. When RC was asked the question, what if you beat a guy who beat a medalist, does that count? He responded NO, it would be too difficult to calculate.

Bottom line is Johnson has not not wrestled a medalist and therefore CANNOT be seeded.

BUT HE IS!!!!!

Karelin,

 

If not Johnson in that slot, then in your opinion, which wrestler should be in the traditional 3rd seed starting point? I mean by going with your understanding of the way the seeding should have happened.

[karelin]

The Webb wrestler actually has a win over Hoang, but I believe Hoang has more wins or the last win; he should be seeded 3rd and Johnson should be simply drawn in(blind draw).

[texas23]

Ahhh,,,,i think you are correct by criteria.

[PinU46]

People posting on this thread have been chasing their tales for over 5 days now. The decisions regarding the brackets have been made and there is no way that TSSAA is going to change them two days before the start of the tournament because a few people are not please with the seeding.

 

Mercifully, let this thread die. Ultimately, the wrestlers will decide the validity of the seeding on the mat. Remember, cream rises to the top; hence, if Johnson, Young, etc. are the best in their respective weight classes, they will prevail in spite of the so-called "inaccurate" seeding.

[texas23]

People posting on this thread have been chasing their tales for over 5 days now. The decisions regarding the brackets have been made and there is no way that TSSAA is going to change them two days before the start of the tournament because a few people are not please with the seeding.

 

Mercifully, let this thread die. Ultimately, the wrestlers will decide the validity of the seeding on the mat. Remember, cream rises to the top; hence, if Johnson, Young, etc. are the best in their respective weight classes, they will prevail in spite of the so-called "inaccurate" seeding.

There is no need for you to respond if you do not like the discussion on here. Just avoid this thread and you can be happy.

 

I find the back and forth interesting and informative. All opinions, except for the close the theard one, seems to be in a polite and trying to understand format.

[sly]

karelin, Have you or your AD petitioned the TSSAA for a change or clairification on this? Your point seems clear to me that you have a valid arguement.

[delaWarr]

Just for clarification: Does anyone know for certain whether the wrestler in the third seeded slot in 103 was seeded there or drawn in? All that I have read seems to operate with the knowledge or under the assumption that he was seeded there. I may have missed something along the way.

Edited February 18, 2004 by delaWarr

[texas23]

Sly,

Go to the TSSAA website; they actually give an expalnation for why he is seeded 3rd.

It is interesting to me that until this year there has never been a discussion or debate about who should be seeded where; the only problems in the past are when coaches move people around at the last minute. If the powers that be only followed the past examples- there is no problem.

But the criteria is now being viewed through three sets of lens-1. Clear (but not used); 2. Red-tinted; 3. Blind-folded.

delaWarr,

 

check out the tssaa website and the notes below.