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Either that or wishful thinking.

After Monday night, I'd like to see Coop and BJ in the same backfield. Oh yeah, back to the game. McCallie by 2 after Baylor misses yet another field goal. How's the transfer from Dalton playing?

I do apologize for what aparently was an obscure reference to Baylor's current and, maybe, future experience in a series due to be renewed on October 3, 2008 at Finley Stadium in front of 12,000 fans. I suppose you might have recognized the reference if I'd posted 0-10 but I like to think positively. Thanks for pointing out that in fact Baylor is 1-0 temporarily. Rumor has it St. Ann's a real power house and a force to be reckoned with in Virginia "A" football.

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As I recall the rationale for the multiplier wasn't whether students paid tuition, it was a perception (OK, it might have been a preceived fact) that all private schools have exactly a 180% advantage over all public schools. That is, unless the private school allows a student to participate who is on financial aid. In that case there's no multilplier large enough to overcome the advantage of a relativley less well off child on the field of play. The board of control has determined that allowing less well off children to play for private schools presents an advantage that is unsurmountable even with mathematics.

Thanks for playing McCallie. Just wish it was in Chattown.

Wow, what a novel concept! Going to Ohio to seek out competition instead of avoiding it. Good luck.

Thank you so much for caring enough to correct my spelling. It is so difficult matching wits with someone of your obvious superior intellect.

I'm always pleased to provide a little comic relief to this board. You've certainly won this debate. It would be darn near impossible to respond adequately to such an eleqount defense of a Tennesee public high school education. I bet you were the valedictorian of your class.

Who's the best? BA will be the presumptive best team in the state year and out as long as Potter coaches and has a 1.2 million population base to draw from (before it starts; I didn't write "recruit from"). I realize there's a team in East TN that has a long winning streak against small school competition but the streak is built upon small school competition. I also am aware BA was beat twice last year by MBA but Potter's offense and players will ultimately become a dominating program over the next decade. I predict at least 6 state championships.

I see your point. Let me rephrase mine, "...as their number one priority winning a championship no matter the quaility of competition even if it means watering down high school athletics ". I do agree, RC has an impossible job of trying to appease everyone. I only have one data point I can cite but he is a current BOC member who is a principal at a small rural school and believes every private school is rich, cheats and has as part of its mission statement the domination of public schools. Other than that fantasy, he's a great guy I've known all my life and attended a private school with many moons ago. But talking high school athletics with him is worse than talking politics. He's equally irrational on that point too. He's sure that every Republican is rich, cheats and has as his mission statement the domination of every Democrat.

Clever response.

You may pay full freight but it is rare when full freight is the full cost of a private school education. Wealthy schools have endowments to subsidize tuitions. Parochial schools have parishes. All private schools use fund raisers of every sort to make up the difference between total tuitions and cost of running schools. All private school students are on financial aid of some sort. On the other hand, every time I pay local taxes, I'm contributing to the financial aid of every public school student in the county. And thanks to the BEP and one the worst legislative delegation in the state, I'm contributing to the financial aid of every rural Tennessee public school child. You're welcome!

Too funny. But I was curious who Inspector Clouseau was going to use for bait. I'm thinking a 6'3" and 250lb 20 year old who runs 40 in 4.5 posing as an 8th grader. Oh wait. He's already at BA!

What are going to do, leave your wallet on the front seat of an unlocked car in one of the parking lots at Riverdale? You'll need to start an "over and under on this one". You'll need 100 wallets to get you through the first hour!

As long as Potter is at BA, year end and year out they'll be consistently the number one or two team. No one is a better X and O coach than Potter. With BA's athletes (I'll pass on speculating how they get there!) and Potter's skill BA will be in the mix for the championship every year.

I've seen the sausage get made. I'm not "simply ignorant"; you're simply naive. If don't believe Carlton Flatt and now Ralph Potter or other ADs had or have no influence on whose financial package is sent to Princeton for assesment, you're simply ignorant.

Try this definition from Wikipedia: Student financial aid refers to funding intended to help students pay education expenses including tuition and fees, room and board, books and supplies, etc. for education at a college, university, or private school. General governmental funding for public education is not called financial aid, which refers to awards to specific individual students. A scholarship is sometimes used as a synonym for a financial aid award. Need based financial aid isn't generally referred to as a scholarship? So AD's and school administrators from private schools around the state have no influence on whose financial disclosure forms get sent to Princeton NJ (NJ isn't in New England) to determine whether they qualify for financial aid? Oh, please! Surely you're not that naive. My kids all went to private schools and I know that in the admissions process academic as well as athletic potential can be and regularly is considered. For that matter so is artistic tallent. If you're telling me that BA regularly ends up with a disproportionate number of DI one athletes on its football team through blind chance, you're either delusional or taking illegal substances. I have never accused BA of illegal recruiting. The success of its football team attracts athletes. But a large fast child who can pass the entrance requirements and whose parents can't afford the school will have and better chance of being encouraged to send financial forms to Princeton than a small slow poor child. I have no proof other than speculation that there are few or no small slow poor children with financial aid on BA's football team but there are and have been large fast poor children with financial aid on the team.

You're right, BA gives a fraction of the grant in need scholarships that the schools you cited do which is a function of student body size and tuition amount but the salient point for this discussion is to which sport's athletes they are disproportionately given. That's not a criticism of BA's policies but an observation of BA's athletic priorities. If I'm Ralph Potter or formerly Carlton Flatt, the AD and football coach and in a position to influence who receives scholarships, I bet you'll see a bias towards large fast young boys who might help me in the sport that I coach. If my assumptions are wrong, please disabuse me of what is apparent to most who watch BA football year end and year out.

It looks like from across the river that Baylor has made a deliberate decision to field competitive (extremely in several cases) teams in as many sports as possible to the unintended detriment of football. The perennial state girls and boys golf championship team don't distract from football but I imagine devoting serious resources to crew, wrestling, soccer, etc. diminshes success in football. At least I'm counting it for another year to extend the streak.

I think Carter has done an admirable job keeping the BOC from following their worst instincts and booting all the privates. He's working with a group of individuals many of whom have as their number one priority watering down high school athletics to insure their respective institutions will win a championship no matter the quaility of competition.

BA has a depth issue!!!! Give me a break. Your tongue must be planted firmly in your cheek. Year and year out they play 5 or 6 future NCAA DI players. They don't have the academic entrance requirements of MBA, McCallie, Baylor, Ensworth, etc and tuition is less than those. I'd like to see the number of starters they have on scholarship versus the rest of DII. "Most years, BA will play 30-35 on a rotating basis while a game is in doubt". Baylor and McCallie would be proud to be able to make that statement with a straight face.

Not to split hairs but no team was a National Champion. They ended up the year ranked #1 in the nation. Being a champion means the team won a championship. Most of the teams mentioned won Tennessee championships. A number of the state championships credited to teams in the listings prior to TSSAA playoffs were the result of subjective rankings and in many cases those were contentious rankings. I know several Oak Ridge and old Tennessee High School teams arguebly would claim several of Chattanooga Central's #1 rankings. Had Coacht been around in those days (guess Al Gore would have had to have invented the internet) the postings about who should be ranked #1 would still be active today.

Only 34 posts! I'm shocked.

What you smokin'? All them rich DII schools jest fly their private planes to games. Seriously, if you think the BOC gives a rat's derierre about DII schools' budgets, you're delusional.