I don't think we should big ragging too much on Ike. I got a lot of respect for that guy. If he couldn't do anything more than stand under the goal and score I wouldn't even say this, but he can shoot pretty good and has nice moves. But I still give Hess the nod, because man can he play. And for anybody saying he's fat, well he gets up and down the court pretty good I would have to say. Just give him two years and there will be no discussion on this comparison. Once he gets to be the go-to guy, well, we'll just wait and see.