jvaughan

I’m glad that they are going with a different design as there is no such “AP State Champions”. This way the girls will be recognized for something less controversial. By claiming a title that doesn’t exist it would diminish what they accomplished, which is what will be put on any shirt, banner, trophy, display, etc. People are still going to hate on it but at least the way it will done will have facts behind it and not a fictional title.

Well news from coacht.com travels fast I guess lol. Just a got a call from a very reliable source that the shirt that is on Greenfield’s booster club Facebook page that says AP Class A State Champion is in fact NOT being made. The design sort of jumped the gun and has since been nixed. However another shirt is in the works that I believe will properly and accurately honor the team from Greenfield with what can best be described “undisputed facts”. Those are my words not my sources. This shirt is not the only way that Greenfield will honor these girls so I’m sure we’ll hear more about it in the future but I just wanted to calm everyone down and let you know that Greenfield will not be claiming the state championship. They will only be claiming what the team factually accomplished.

Now that I’ve seen it, I guess I would say to each their own.

Ok thank you for that....... Can a picture of the actual shirt be posted on here by someone? I would love to get “picture proof” that these are out there. Would also like to know if it’s something that the school/team/booster club did or if it’s something that was done outside of anyone actually affiliated with the school.

Anyway you can post a picture of the shirt on here?

By the way its worded, its not splitting hairs IMO. But I'm sure they have some wonderful reason to not allow it in a situation like Pickett Co. even though it makes perfect sense to allow it.

Exactly, 2 different schools now. I went to Union with Crystal Eason, who if there was a "8th Grader playing up Hall of Fame" would be selected on her first ballot.

Pickett would have two different schools then. If you are in K-8 Pickett you are not enrolled at the 9-12 school. The rules says enrolled at the same school, not the same school system as it would be at Pickett. So that is why they have been told repeatedly that 8th graders can not play. Greenfield has been one K-12 school since 1990 even though they were in the two different buildings until the fall of 2004. I graduated in 2003 and we did it for about 10 years prior under the coach I played for.

Here is what I came up with off the website: Section 8. An eighth grade student is eligible to participate for a member school if he/she is enrolled at the school. Students below the eighth grade are not eligible to practice or participate for a member school. Any student repeating the eighth grade shall not be eligible for high school participation during the year that the student is repeating the eighth grade. Participation as an eighth grader shall not reduce the number of semesters a student is allowed to participate after enrolling in the ninth grade. I think Huntingdon proposed something a few years to change it or eliminate it all together and it got shot down. When I was in school at Greenfield we were a K-12 school but K-8 and 9-12 were in two different buildings separated by a street and we played up as 8th graders.

You don’t have to be in the same building to play 8th graders. You just have to be considered the same school ie K-12, 7-12 etc.

This is one of the biggest reasons I'm against it. I believe too that officials will want more money (they already do as it is) and since this will be something else on court officials have to keep up with, they will have the leverage to get it.

I could write a book on why I don't think there should be a shot clock in high school basketball. We've hit on it all nearly already so I won't beat a dead horse. I think its's going to eventually happen because change happens. I think that if you do not go along with the NFHS rules and regulations you are not allowed to vote on things that they handle (not 100% sure on that) so if that is the case, the TSSAA wouldn't be wise to not be able to vote on matters that they are going to be required to follow. More and more states are putting it in so its gaining traction and will happen eventually. But I hope it holds off as long as possible.

“Not a big deal she dominated in every stat” is borderline oxymoron. She turns it over 5 times in 31 minutes and she doesn’t have a handle. How many times does she touch the ball a game and she only turned it over 5 times? No one is asking you to crown the girl as the best but you are short changing her by a mile.

If not missing a shot all game (6-6 from the field, 2-2 from 3pt, 10-10 from FT) with 24 points, 8 rebounds, 6 assists, and 3 steals is sloppy, then give me sloppy all day long!! And against the almighty Clarkrange to boot. Would love to see what impresses you cause it would be a out of this world performance.

No one played this past year. Hence, it wasn’t on the approved list. No need to ask for approval when no one wants to play. I believe there will be a few in the next couple of years so approval will be sought when those kids get to high school. Until then, they more than likely won’t even ask.

I wasn’t stating you can’t have more than one point, just that you were shifting from and abandoning your original argument without adding to or justifying it, also known as backing up and punting. And for someone who doesn’t care about what I think, you reply to me an awful lot.

If I stand and hold the ball on my hip and half court and you sit back and let me, how is it that I’m the one who’s scared? Get out and guard. Team A runs a continuity type offense for 2 minutes and can do so without Team B forcing a turnover, who would you say is the better team? Either team A is better or team B isn’t playing defense. The strategy to avoid teams holding the ball on you is play defense better than the can offense. Play smothering defense and use the 5 second rule. I have come up with plenty of reasons why it would be a larger undertaking than most think. We’ve hit on some here in this thread. Who’s going to work it is one that I worry about. Finding someone to do it is a big deal for some schools let alone someone who knows what they are doing. And you don’t want to be the guy who screws it up in a tight game. Officials already want more money for games. This would be something else they have to keep up with so then there’s another cost. If they require an actual official to run the clock, there’s more money. The cost of the initial set up I don’t see as that big of deal that some make it. If the T$$AA says you have to have it to play sanctioned basketball, schools will figure it out.

So you’ve gone from your argument solely being based on helping the kids who are going to play in college adjust to using a shot clock (no mention of the other 95%) to now well it’ll get everybody more possessions. So I’ll take it you’ve abandoned your original argument. The three point line did nothing to take away from a team that might not have the individual talent and athleticism. If anything it helped them by forcing those teams to come out and guard the line which opened things up for more movement on offense which I consider good basketball. A shot clock gives those teams more of an advantage than they already have because they can sit back and let the clock give them ball back A small poll of this thread has it 13 against it, 5 for it, and 1 that’s a push by my count. I’d love to see a formal poll of every high school coach (boys and girls) in the state of Tennessee. I believe the DNJ did one a few years ago of a handful of coaches in the Rutherford County area and it was split. I could careless what 399 “people” in Virginia think or what those 8 other states are doing. No doubt there are fans in that poll that know more basketball than some coaches but the people who it’s going to effect most (coaches and schools) should be the ones who get the say so.

Whenever I present that stat against the argument of getting kids ready, shot clockers always back up and punt without giving a rebuttal with any substance. Wonder why?

So let’s make the roughly 95% of kids who won’t play past high school play with a shot clock so we can get the 5% ready?

This time of year is always the worst when it comes to the shot clock is needed posts. I see it on Twitter from the basketball guys I follow all the time. A video gets posted of a team with the ball on their hip and everyone standing around. Or there is a newspaper article of a game that has a final score of 11-10 and it mentions how the winning team held the ball for minutes at a time. IMO, if you have to depend on a clock to get the ball back from a team, you just might not be better than them.

My sarcasm is lost when done through text I guess.

https://www.usab.com/mens/u18/history.aspx USA basketball's U18 team has been struggling against international competition....

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I believe they did it because the current District 16A has around 18-20 teams. So by splitting them up into two districts that makes everything have to shift. The current district 13A isn't even in the section (substate) for the next round of classification.